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Lunar Libration
« on: February 06, 2008, 04:21:52 PM »
A monthly lunar libration causes more than 50% of the moon to be visible from Earth, even though one side of the moon is forever facing the Earth (caused due to Tidal locking on the RE model). At one particular moment in time you can only see 50% of the Moon, but libration allow you to "peek" around the edges. Over one lunar cycle around 59% of the moon can be visible. Librations are caused due to the eccentric orbit of the moon around Earth, causing the moon to "wobble", swaying back and forth in its orbit. I don't know ever single FE model and theory (and don't bloody expect me to, there is no consistency with the FE theories) and whether the moon is spherical and the Earth is just special, but from what i have gotten from is that the moon is flat too. However this proves that the Moon is spherical. This also occurs on other celestial bodies, however it is the easiest to observe with the moon. I don't know whether this has been discussed before, but either way I'm brining it up so don't yell at me to "search". It proves spherical bodies and I don't see any way how FE can explain this.


Note: This is just a simulation from real pictures over 29.5 days (lunar cycle). This phenomenon can be observed from your backyard with good observation techniques.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2008, 04:30:04 PM »
The moon is spherical.  The earth is flat.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2008, 04:32:03 PM »
Why is the Earth flat and nothing else? What makes Earth different from the rest of the celestial bodies that causes it to be flat?
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2008, 04:32:25 PM »
magic. obviously.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2008, 04:36:55 PM »
Oh ya! i forgot about magic! i do hope the round earth fairy helps me with the really hard argument here... :D
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2008, 05:07:20 PM »
Quote from: Jimmy911 on February 06, 2008, 04:32:03 PM
Why is the Earth flat and nothing else? What makes Earth different from the rest of the celestial bodies that causes it to be flat?

Its humongous size.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2008, 05:15:20 PM »
umm...that still does not make really any sense...what about other planets? are they spherical or flat? why would the earth be flat just because of its size?
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2008, 05:23:36 PM »
Quote from: Jimmy911 on February 06, 2008, 05:15:20 PM
umm...that still does not make really any sense...what about other planets? are they spherical or flat? why would the earth be flat just because of its size?

Not sure.  We can only theorize that the earth's size is what gives it its massive dark energy field, and somehow the constant acceleration upwards had a flattening effect.

The other planets?  LOL.  They're like 6 feet wide!  :D
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2008, 07:15:47 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the Intellectual Non-Conformist on February 06, 2008, 05:23:36 PM
Not sure.  We can only theorize that the earth's size is what gives it its massive dark energy field, and somehow the constant acceleration upwards had a flattening effect.

The other planets?  LOL.  They're like 6 feet wide!  :D
Righto then. thats only really flawed :)
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2008, 07:26:39 PM »
Quote from: Jimmy911 on February 06, 2008, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: Roundy the Intellectual Non-Conformist on February 06, 2008, 05:23:36 PM
Not sure.  We can only theorize that the earth's size is what gives it its massive dark energy field, and somehow the constant acceleration upwards had a flattening effect.

The other planets?  LOL.  They're like 6 feet wide!  :D
Righto then. thats only really flawed :)

Have you been to a planet to know better?
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2008, 07:45:51 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on February 06, 2008, 07:26:39 PM
Have you been to a planet to know better?
No, but I have seen the changes in the angle of Saturn's rings and the movement of clouds in Jupiter through my telescope. In particular is the great red spot of Jupiter which is the easiest to tell if it is there or not. Where does it go? Obviously it must be spherical and BIGGER than 6 feet. And if they where six feet how would you be able to see more detail as the magnification for the object increases? If it where 6 feet (or around there) you would not be able to fit enough detail on it. Microscopes deal with small objects like that.
Anyways, Dark Matter is hypothetical and its usage it either FE and RE arguments is not convincing at all.

Have you been to a planet Tom? Other than just saying that, wheres the evidence. Plus I think the original quote for "They're like 6 feet wide!" was sarcastic. But I could be wrong...
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2008, 09:12:13 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the Intellectual Non-Conformist on February 06, 2008, 05:23:36 PM
Quote from: Jimmy911 on February 06, 2008, 05:15:20 PM
umm...that still does not make really any sense...what about other planets? are they spherical or flat? why would the earth be flat just because of its size?

Not sure.  We can only theorize that the earth's size is what gives it its massive dark energy field, and somehow the constant acceleration upwards had a flattening effect.

The other planets?  LOL.  They're like 6 feet wide!  :D
Wow that is extremely flawed as firstly dark energy is a cosmological constant meaning at every point of space its value is equal
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2008, 02:34:16 AM »
Different dark energy.

And they may be a bit more than 6 feet wide.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2008, 02:53:17 AM »
I can't believe einstien has over 100 posts already. I think we may be looking at the next eric bloedow.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2008, 02:59:11 AM »
not nearly funny enough
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2008, 05:58:12 AM »
Quote from: Jimmy911 on February 06, 2008, 04:32:03 PM
Why is the Earth flat and nothing else? What makes Earth different from the rest of the celestial bodies that causes it to be flat?

Dark Energy.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2008, 03:32:27 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on February 07, 2008, 05:58:12 AM
Quote from: Jimmy911 on February 06, 2008, 04:32:03 PM
Why is the Earth flat and nothing else? What makes Earth different from the rest of the celestial bodies that causes it to be flat?

Dark Energy.
Saying its dark energy nevertheless is meaningless. Dark Energy is STILL hypothetical and how does dark energy work to cause the Earth to be flat? Why does it not make the moon flat? Why is the moon special?
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2008, 04:11:34 PM »
IF the earth has a "downward" ficticious force on it, it wouldn't form into a sphere, but instead into a pancake.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2008, 04:26:50 PM »
Quote from: Username on February 07, 2008, 04:11:34 PM
IF the earth has a "downward" ficticious force on it, it wouldn't form into a sphere, but instead into a pancake.
What about the moon/sun? How do they stay in orbit/movement around Earth (how do they move around the Earth anyways?) as it is fictitiously moving downwards and why do they do they not flatten out either (as I have pointed out in this thread, the moon must be spherical).
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2008, 04:43:48 PM »
Quote from: Username on February 07, 2008, 04:11:34 PM
IF the earth has a "downward" ficticious force on it, it wouldn't form into a sphere, but instead into a pancake.
okay what is this fictitious force?
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2008, 05:06:53 PM »
Quote from: Z, King of Kings on February 07, 2008, 02:53:17 AM
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2008, 06:33:03 PM »
Quote from: Jimmy911 on February 07, 2008, 04:26:50 PM
Quote from: Username on February 07, 2008, 04:11:34 PM
IF the earth has a "downward" ficticious force on it, it wouldn't form into a sphere, but instead into a pancake.
What about the moon/sun? How do they stay in orbit/movement around Earth (how do they move around the Earth anyways?) as it is fictitiously moving downwards and why do they do they not flatten out either (as I have pointed out in this thread, the moon must be spherical).

Because this small acceleration is not going to flatten a planet.  I think the Earth was created flat.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2008, 09:10:05 PM »
Quote from: Trekky0623 on February 07, 2008, 06:33:03 PM
Because this small acceleration is not going to flatten a planet.  I think the Earth was created flat.
Not gunna lie, that has made to most sense of what I have heard so far ;). Still brings up the question to why the Earth is special. Other planets are spherical and that can be observed from Earth.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2008, 12:42:45 AM »
In the FE view other planets are in no way, shape, or form similar to the earth.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2008, 05:35:01 AM »
The Earth in FE is special (it's the centre of the whole universe) because if it wasn't, they'd need actual theories as to why it alone was flat and nothing else.
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2008, 01:07:57 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Agent on February 08, 2008, 05:35:01 AM
The Earth in FE is special (it's the centre of the whole universe) because if it wasn't, they'd need actual theories as to why it alone was flat and nothing else.
ok then...
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« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2008, 03:35:16 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Agent on February 08, 2008, 05:35:01 AM
The Earth in FE is special (it's the centre of the whole universe) because if it wasn't, they'd need actual theories as to why it alone was flat and nothing else.
Something wrong with that view b/c there is no center point in the universe. This is because every point in the Universe is the same no point is special. That's what makes the laws of physics the same in every region in space
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2008, 02:07:43 AM »
Quote from: einstien on February 08, 2008, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: Conspiracy Agent on February 08, 2008, 05:35:01 AM
The Earth in FE is special (it's the centre of the whole universe) because if it wasn't, they'd need actual theories as to why it alone was flat and nothing else.
Something wrong with that view b/c there is no center point in the universe. This is because every point in the Universe is the same no point is special. That's what makes the laws of physics the same in every region in space
Then why does the universe rotate around Tom's "hub of the earth" in his theory?
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2008, 03:14:47 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy Agent on February 09, 2008, 02:07:43 AM
Quote from: einstien on February 08, 2008, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: Conspiracy Agent on February 08, 2008, 05:35:01 AM
The Earth in FE is special (it's the centre of the whole universe) because if it wasn't, they'd need actual theories as to why it alone was flat and nothing else.
Something wrong with that view b/c there is no center point in the universe. This is because every point in the Universe is the same no point is special. That's what makes the laws of physics the same in every region in space
Then why does the universe rotate around Tom's "hub of the earth" in his theory?
Obviously the theory is wrong b/c modern physics says there is no center point of the universe
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Re: Lunar Libration
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2008, 10:24:44 AM »
Quote from: einstien on February 09, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: Conspiracy Agent on February 09, 2008, 02:07:43 AM
Quote from: einstien on February 08, 2008, 03:35:16 PM
Quote from: Conspiracy Agent on February 08, 2008, 05:35:01 AM
The Earth in FE is special (it's the centre of the whole universe) because if it wasn't, they'd need actual theories as to why it alone was flat and nothing else.
Something wrong with that view b/c there is no center point in the universe. This is because every point in the Universe is the same no point is special. That's what makes the laws of physics the same in every region in space
Then why does the universe rotate around Tom's "hub of the earth" in his theory?
Obviously the theory is wrong b/c modern physics says there is no center point of the universe
I thought that every point in the universe appears to be the centre.
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