Quick 'what if' question for Tom

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Tom Dipshit

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Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« on: January 17, 2008, 03:01:15 PM »
Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 03:03:15 PM »
Tom's answer: He would accept RE

The Truth: Give me FE or give me death. I'm inclined to satisfy his wish.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 03:05:50 PM »
Tom's answer: He would accept RE

The Truth: Give me FE or give me death. I'm inclined to satisfy his wish.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 03:06:32 PM »
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Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?

Why would Rowbotham be wrong when I've verified the results of his experiments myself?

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 03:07:07 PM »
^^What did I tell you?  ;D
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 03:08:23 PM »
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Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?

Why would Rowbotham be wrong when I've verified the results of his experiments myself?
YES! You've just, indirectly, proven my, er, everyones point. You can't answer any question even if it's just a what if question!
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2008, 07:10:54 PM »
Hahaha, that's beautiful  ;D

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2008, 02:05:21 AM »
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Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?

Why would Rowbotham be wrong when I've verified the results of his experiments myself?

Tom,

Your messiah, the venerable Dr Rowbothom, did not appear to conduct these experiments a way which could be described as "scientific".

For example, on "over water" experiments, he tries to eliminate refraction when he describes:

Temperature, density, and moisture of the air did not differ at the two stations at the time the experiment with the telescope and flag-staff was made. Hence it was concluded that refraction had not played any part in the observation.

This indicates he did not know what type of temperature gradient would cause downwards refraction.  It is the vertical temperature gradient from the water upwards, not the horizontal gradient between the stations, which would cause a downward refraction of the light rays.  In the correction conditions, it would cause light to curve in the direction of the earth's curvature.

Whether Dr Rowbothom stated this inaccuracy deliberately or through ignorance, is not clear.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2008, 04:22:45 AM by Moon squirter »
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2008, 05:24:28 AM »
if tom was taken to the moon by NASA, saw the american flag and then saw the round earth behind him he wouldnt believe it.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2008, 05:36:01 AM »
Why does everyone get taken in by Tom's babble? Is it that hard to understand what he's doing?
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2008, 05:42:44 AM »
Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?
Just answer the question Tom!
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2008, 06:14:03 PM »
Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?
Just answer the question Tom!
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2008, 06:22:07 PM »
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Just answer the question Tom!

The answer is no. Even if my sources were wrong I've already verified their experiments myself. Therefore I'd still believe that the earth is flat.

Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2008, 06:36:40 PM »
The real question wasn't "what if your sources were wrong?", it was "what if FE theory was wrong and RE theory was right?".

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2008, 06:57:13 PM »
It's unfair to paint Tom as some kind of Rowbotham-worshipper, I've often seen him cite a broad range of material from different authors. Globularist fundamentalists often seem to make the mistake of believing that only one man ever published dissertations on the true shape of the Earth.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2008, 07:56:12 PM »
Fikealox is right. The real question is what if you saw for yourself that FE theory is incorrect? Suppose you were offered a rocket ship ride around the earth. This, I suppose, would be the only way (if any) to discourage your belief in a FE world.

FE theory relies heavily on the world governments obstructing truth. So, I suppose the question within a question here, would be what do you value more: FE theory, or truth?

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2008, 08:13:37 PM »
Tom's answer- They are the same thing

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2008, 10:07:25 PM »
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FE theory relies heavily on the world governments obstructing truth. So, I suppose the question within a question here, would be what do you value more: FE theory, or truth?

FE Theory is the truth.

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2008, 10:15:00 PM »
What did I tell you?

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2008, 05:36:47 AM »
Why does everyone get taken in by Tom's babble? Is it that hard to understand what he's doing?
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2008, 07:13:30 AM »
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FE theory relies heavily on the world governments obstructing truth. So, I suppose the question within a question here, would be what do you value more: FE theory, or truth?

FE Theory is the truth.

No, that's not a valid answer. I gave you two options. Phrased differently, they were "Your belief in FE theory, or FE theory is not the truth." Either way, we can all agree that FE theory is either true or false. One of the two states must be true. Now, I'm asking you (please try and answer the actual question this time), what if it was proven to you personally that the earth is round (this would mean that all your experiments were conducted improperly, or the results were misinterpreted)? Try including the bit I mentioned about the rocket ship in your answer, which you ignored the first time.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2008, 12:46:09 PM »
Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?
Just answer the question Tom!
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2008, 12:56:11 PM »
Tom Bishop would never accept RE. It is his nemesis.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2008, 01:03:47 PM »
Tom Bishop would never accept RE. It is his nemesis.
I'm giving him no choice. He must consider this scenario no matter what has done to prove FE.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2008, 01:06:53 PM »
If by prove you mean support, then yes. He cannot answer. It would force him to consider he is wrong, and that would cause him to collapse under his own sheer stupidity into a small black hole before evaporating into nothingness.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2008, 03:24:33 PM »

Tom, what if FE was wrong and everything for RE is right? What if Rowbotham or anyone you use as evidence was wrong? Would you still believe FE, or would you finally accept RE?
Just answer the question Tom!
Tom Bishop: "The earth cuts the universe in half."

Narcberry (smarticus): "Oceans are free from gravity."

Z' Lord of Purple: "yes, superfast jet streams for the win!!!"

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2008, 12:12:44 PM »
Fikealox is right. The real question is what if you saw for yourself that FE theory is incorrect? Suppose you were offered a rocket ship ride around the earth. This, I suppose, would be the only way (if any) to discourage your belief in a FE world.

FE theory relies heavily on the world governments obstructing truth. So, I suppose the question within a question here, would be what do you value more: FE theory, or truth?

Well what if it turned out that we were right? The question is just as stupid the other way round.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2008, 12:23:35 PM »
Of course it is(stupid). I would say I would have to change my views, and so would you, but the funny thing is that(and the joke) is that Tom would never say that. Look at it.
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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2008, 01:24:57 PM »
Even if tom was right, it doesn't make him any less of an idiot. I mean, he doesn't even know the proper definition centripetal acceleration or any acceleration for that matter.

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Re: Quick 'what if' question for Tom
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2008, 01:28:39 PM »
Even if tom was right, it doesn't make him any less of an idiot.
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