Acceleration of the Earth

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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #180 on: December 14, 2007, 03:43:34 PM »
What the, the...  Would somebody please explain to me how the fuck this thread got to 9 pages?  Somebody else ban cbarnett for continuing to do the same stupid shit while they're at it.
And what stupid shit would that be? Math?
It would be the stupid shit stuff.  Remember parachutes? ::)

Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #181 on: December 14, 2007, 03:54:09 PM »
What the, the...  Would somebody please explain to me how the fuck this thread got to 9 pages?  Somebody else ban cbarnett for continuing to do the same stupid shit while they're at it.
And what stupid shit would that be? Math?
It would be the stupid shit stuff.  Remember parachutes? ::)
Oh I remember and you are right I see that you guys still love to make adjustments to your systems as soon as you see a problem with it without changing the math at all.
Only 2 things are infinite the universe and human stupidity, but I am not sure about the former.

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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #182 on: December 14, 2007, 03:59:37 PM »
What adjustment was made?  The FE still accelerates at the same constant rate.  Nothing changed.


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #183 on: December 14, 2007, 04:01:25 PM »
What adjustment was made?  The FE still accelerates at the same constant rate.  Nothing changed.
I am still waiting for you to show me that 100Mpc is a 'local' FoR
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #184 on: December 14, 2007, 04:02:16 PM »
What the, the...  Would somebody please explain to me how the fuck this thread got to 9 pages?  Somebody else ban cbarnett for continuing to do the same stupid shit while they're at it.
And what stupid shit would that be? Math?
It would be the stupid shit stuff.  Remember parachutes? ::)
Oh I remember and you are right I see that you guys still love to make adjustments to your systems as soon as you see a problem with it without changing the math at all.
Are you kidding me?!  What was changed about FE theory for parachutes?!

Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #185 on: December 14, 2007, 04:05:11 PM »
you added elements that do not affect the parchutist such as the acceleration of the earth.
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #186 on: December 14, 2007, 04:09:34 PM »
you added elements that do not affect the parchutist such as the acceleration of the earth.

Yes, the Earth accelerating has NOTHING to do with a parachutist on a FE. ::)  It only causes them to have weight and come down to the earth, but, that doesn't matter

Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #187 on: December 14, 2007, 04:13:47 PM »
you added elements that do not affect the parchutist such as the acceleration of the earth.

Yes, the Earth accelerating has NOTHING to do with a parachutist on a FE. ::)  It only causes them to have weight and come down to the earth, but, that doesn't matter
I would rather not get into this all over againg, however, if the earth is not there to push against him how can it accelerate him? If I am running 100yards in front of a car, does it accelerate me? No, not til it hits me.
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #188 on: December 14, 2007, 04:16:47 PM »
I would rather not get into this all over againg, however, if the earth is not there to push against him how can it accelerate him? If I am running 100yards in front of a car, does it accelerate me? No, not til it hits me.

You are aware the earth accelerates the air with it, right?

Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #189 on: December 14, 2007, 04:20:12 PM »
I would rather not get into this all over againg, however, if the earth is not there to push against him how can it accelerate him? If I am running 100yards in front of a car, does it accelerate me? No, not til it hits me.

You are aware the earth accelerates the air with it, right?
Very much so, that is why in my calculations I took the velocity of the air into account. But in the FE the forces acting upon the parachutist are F=R while on the RE you get F=mg-R. After you FE'ers saw this you then just tried to add in F=ma to make it the same.
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #190 on: December 14, 2007, 04:44:51 PM »
Very much so, that is why in my calculations I took the velocity of the air into account. But in the FE the forces acting upon the parachutist are F=R while on the RE you get F=mg-R. After you FE'ers saw this you then just tried to add in F=ma to make it the same.
Perhaps you should go look over that thread again.  I already showed you the error in your force system. 


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #191 on: December 14, 2007, 04:46:12 PM »
I am still waiting for you to show me that 100Mpc is a 'local' FoR
Uh, mind telling me how that is possible?


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #192 on: December 14, 2007, 06:51:14 PM »
I blame it on the magical shadow object messing with your perceptions and frames of reference.

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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #193 on: December 15, 2007, 06:40:34 PM »
you added elements that do not affect the parchutist such as the acceleration of the earth.

Yes, the Earth accelerating has NOTHING to do with a parachutist on a FE. ::)  It only causes them to have weight and come down to the earth, but, that doesn't matter
Since he already has g in the equation he is doubling gravity, I didn't check the formula, but I assume this is what he is referring to. If not then yes you do need the acceleration, or you can just use g they are the same thing.

Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #194 on: December 15, 2007, 07:25:38 PM »
I am still waiting for you to show me that 100Mpc is a 'local' FoR
Uh, mind telling me how that is possible?
I am not sure that is why I need you to show me, since you claim that gravitational lensing can be explained by the EP.
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #195 on: December 15, 2007, 07:26:46 PM »
Very much so, that is why in my calculations I took the velocity of the air into account. But in the FE the forces acting upon the parachutist are F=R while on the RE you get F=mg-R. After you FE'ers saw this you then just tried to add in F=ma to make it the same.
Perhaps you should go look over that thread again.  I already showed you the error in your force system. 
How can you repalce a variable with a constant and expect the same result everytime?
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #196 on: December 15, 2007, 08:44:23 PM »
I am not sure that is why I need you to show me
I never said that was possible.  You should probably brush up your skills in the 'reading' department.

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since you claim that gravitational lensing can be explained by the EP.
Right.


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #197 on: December 15, 2007, 08:44:51 PM »
How can you repalce a variable with a constant and expect the same result everytime?
What are you talking about? 


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #198 on: December 15, 2007, 09:46:38 PM »
How can you repalce a variable with a constant and expect the same result everytime?
What are you talking about? 
f=m(9.81) does not equal f=m(Gm/r2)

9.81=Constant
Gm/r2 = Variable
« Last Edit: December 15, 2007, 09:55:06 PM by cbarnett97 »
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #199 on: December 15, 2007, 09:51:50 PM »
I am not sure that is why I need you to show me
I never said that was possible.  You should probably brush up your skills in the 'reading' department.

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since you claim that gravitational lensing can be explained by the EP.
Right.

Here is the definition of the EP, so please tell me how that applies to vast distances


"At every spacetime point in an arbitrary gravitational field, it is possible to chose a locally inertial coordinate system such that, within a sufficiently small region of the point in question, the laws of nature take the same form as in unaccelerated Cartesian coordinate systems."


And the distances to our neighboring galaxies (which are the smallest objects that will produce gravitaional lensing that we can measure) are measured in megaparsec's (Mpc) which is a very large distance. 1 parsec is just over 2 lightyears in distance. So pleace enlighten me on how that is a 'local' FoR
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #200 on: December 15, 2007, 10:02:06 PM »
I am not sure that is why I need you to show me
I never said that was possible.  You should probably brush up your skills in the 'reading' department.

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since you claim that gravitational lensing can be explained by the EP.
Right.


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #201 on: December 15, 2007, 10:07:23 PM »
I am not sure that is why I need you to show me
I never said that was possible.  You should probably brush up your skills in the 'reading' department.

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since you claim that gravitational lensing can be explained by the EP.
Right.

Here is the definition of the EP, so please tell me how that applies to vast distances


"At every spacetime point in an arbitrary gravitational field, it is possible to chose a locally inertial coordinate system such that, within a sufficiently small region of the point in question, the laws of nature take the same form as in unaccelerated Cartesian coordinate systems."


And the distances to our neighboring galaxies (which are the smallest objects that will produce gravitaional lensing that we can measure) are measured in megaparsec's (Mpc) which is a very large distance. 1 parsec is just over 2 lightyears in distance. So pleace enlighten me on how that is a 'local' FoR
Now all you need to do is show me how that is a local FoR
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #202 on: December 15, 2007, 10:55:12 PM »
Why would I do that?


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #203 on: December 16, 2007, 12:25:32 AM »
Why would I do that?
to demonstrate your claim
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #204 on: December 16, 2007, 12:37:54 AM »
This is hilarious.  Good show, Engy.  :D
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #205 on: December 16, 2007, 02:13:31 AM »
This has gone so far past my understanding of physics that I no longer have any idea who is winning.














































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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #206 on: December 16, 2007, 05:16:19 AM »
I've never seen TheEngineer to be wrong yet, so I'd bet on him; although I would prefer if he'd just put barnett out of his misery.
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #207 on: December 16, 2007, 05:57:14 AM »
Why would I do that?
to demonstrate your claim
But I did not claim anything of the kind.


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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #208 on: December 16, 2007, 10:30:47 AM »
Bending of light due to acceleration = bending of light due to 'gravity'.
That was your response to my claim that gravitational lensing is a very good example of gravitation. Now if you were talking about another phenomenon then it was on you to let us all know that you were changing the subject.
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Re: Acceleration of the Earth
« Reply #209 on: December 16, 2007, 12:21:11 PM »
I was talking about gravitational lensing.  I said it could be explained by the acceleration of the FE.


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