Moonbounce - Bouncing radio waves off the moon

Quote from: The Engineer on November 30, 2007, 11:01:04 PM

Be quiet Tom we are all sick of your views.

hah.  just realized this isn't the real 'the engineer'.

That's right. 

Quote from: cpt_bthimes on December 01, 2007, 12:24:31 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ireland on December 01, 2007, 12:13:48 PM

Quote from: cpt_bthimes on December 01, 2007, 11:32:05 AM

Quote from: The Engineer on November 30, 2007, 11:01:04 PM

Be quiet Tom we are all sick of your views.

no surprise to hear me say: thank you.

If you're so sick of them, then please, leave.

i didn't say i was sick of anything.  i think you meant to reply to the engineer.  he's probably not going to leave though.

either way, how is someone expressing dissatisfaction with someone's views, related to an imperative to leave?

He wants Tom to be quiet: not going to happen.  So if you want him to be 'quiet' then leave.

let me see if i understand: the engineer (not the real one) wants bishop to be quiet.  ergo, i should leave.

and on the same line, you pose another line of logic: if i want someone to be quiet that is not going to do so, then i should leave.

does that pretty much sum it up?  if so, i'm going to need an introductory course in irish logic.  but don't let me put words in your mouth...

Err, no, we're not talking about you leaving.  The fake The Engineer.

Err, no, we're not talking about you leaving.  The fake The Engineer.

i see, apologies.  i was confused since you replied to me.

still, he's entitled to his opinion without being shunned for it.  the odds are probably unlikely he's a noob anyway (other than a fresh account), because he'd have to already know who the engineer is.  probably another user (i'd say tom bishop!) who created it for a little trolling fun.  but so far i don't see any real trolling, other than one (of two) posts that are a bit rabble-rousing that isn't altogether unjustified...

but now that i think about it, by my own argument, you have just as much right to ask him to leave, as he does to ask bishop to stfu.

So, back to my post...

So, back to my post...

Nice youtube link btw. 

Quote from: Spec138 on December 01, 2007, 04:58:13 PM

So, back to my post...

Nice youtube link btw. 

Tom = Pwned

i want everyone to leave so i can just fill the boards up with my own babbling

Tom, let's make a deal.

If you are going to deny all studies by NASA, and say that we can't use them, then you must stop using Earth Not a Globe.

Back on topic. What kind of data would you like? (I'm talking to Tom or any other FE ers that would seriously like some raw data)

I'm a HAM operator. Haven't had a chance to work the bands in a while and thought I'd get out my old 2 meter rig and see who I could call up out there. Seems to be working pretty good still.

I've not been to a competition in probably 10 years or more, but here is the 2006 EME results page, and the article although brief, at least outlines the frequencies and some equipment used for such things. I'm sure I can chew the fat with some of the guys (and hey... 2 different YL contacts [women] ... more and more women every year in HAM radio. Nice.) and find about any reference materials, data, personal data, etc. you might want.

Just ask. Let me know what the specifics are that you are wanting, and I'll be glad to provide!

Anyone?

Link fixes / updates:
ARRL EME Contest results www.arrl.org/contests/results/2006/eme.pdf
ARRL EME Contest Rules http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2006/eme.html

Quote from: Optimus Prime on November 30, 2007, 08:31:43 PM

Back on topic. What kind of data would you like? (I'm talking to Tom or any other FE ers that would seriously like some raw data)

I'm a HAM operator. Haven't had a chance to work the bands in a while and thought I'd get out my old 2 meter rig and see who I could call up out there. Seems to be working pretty good still.

I've not been to a competition in probably 10 years or more, but here is the 2006 EME results page, and the article although brief, at least outlines the frequencies and some equipment used for such things. I'm sure I can chew the fat with some of the guys (and hey... 2 different YL contacts [women] ... more and more women every year in HAM radio. Nice.) and find about any reference materials, data, personal data, etc. you might want.

Just ask. Let me know what the specifics are that you are wanting, and I'll be glad to provide!

Anyone?

Link fixes / updates:
ARRL EME Contest results www.arrl.org/contests/results/2006/eme.pdf
ARRL EME Contest Rules http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2006/eme.html

Sorry about taking this so far off topic OP, I just hate hearing people discredit arguably the greatest accomplishment by mankind...

Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 02, 2007, 12:44:14 PM

Quote from: Optimus Prime on November 30, 2007, 08:31:43 PM

Back on topic. What kind of data would you like? (I'm talking to Tom or any other FE ers that would seriously like some raw data)

I'm a HAM operator. Haven't had a chance to work the bands in a while and thought I'd get out my old 2 meter rig and see who I could call up out there. Seems to be working pretty good still.

I've not been to a competition in probably 10 years or more, but here is the 2006 EME results page, and the article although brief, at least outlines the frequencies and some equipment used for such things. I'm sure I can chew the fat with some of the guys (and hey... 2 different YL contacts [women] ... more and more women every year in HAM radio. Nice.) and find about any reference materials, data, personal data, etc. you might want.

Just ask. Let me know what the specifics are that you are wanting, and I'll be glad to provide!

Anyone?

Link fixes / updates:
ARRL EME Contest results www.arrl.org/contests/results/2006/eme.pdf
ARRL EME Contest Rules http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2006/eme.html

Sorry about taking this so far off topic OP, I just hate hearing people discredit arguably the greatest accomplishment by mankind...

No worries. That's why I posted to bring it back in. I've learned that in this forum, it's a given that most threads will go off on a tangent, and eventually make it back around

Quote from: Spec138 on December 02, 2007, 12:55:04 PM

Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 02, 2007, 12:44:14 PM

Quote from: Optimus Prime on November 30, 2007, 08:31:43 PM

Back on topic. What kind of data would you like? (I'm talking to Tom or any other FE ers that would seriously like some raw data)

I'm a HAM operator. Haven't had a chance to work the bands in a while and thought I'd get out my old 2 meter rig and see who I could call up out there. Seems to be working pretty good still.

I've not been to a competition in probably 10 years or more, but here is the 2006 EME results page, and the article although brief, at least outlines the frequencies and some equipment used for such things. I'm sure I can chew the fat with some of the guys (and hey... 2 different YL contacts [women] ... more and more women every year in HAM radio. Nice.) and find about any reference materials, data, personal data, etc. you might want.

Just ask. Let me know what the specifics are that you are wanting, and I'll be glad to provide!

Anyone?

Link fixes / updates:
ARRL EME Contest results www.arrl.org/contests/results/2006/eme.pdf
ARRL EME Contest Rules http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2006/eme.html

Sorry about taking this so far off topic OP, I just hate hearing people discredit arguably the greatest accomplishment by mankind...

No worries. That's why I posted to bring it back in. I've learned that in this forum, it's a given that most threads will go off on a tangent, and eventually make it back around

I believe thats called the circle of life.

yep , i know the real reason just wanted to know the FE reason

Why the hell would the Russian reason be any different than the NASA reason??

Quote from: tommo on November 30, 2007, 03:25:24 PM

yep , i know the real reason just wanted to know the FE reason

Why the hell would the Russian reason be any different than the NASA reason??

I think that was the whole point.

I think that was the whole point.

He asked a question knowing that the answer would be the same as in RE?

Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 02, 2007, 04:15:34 PM

I think that was the whole point.

He asked a question knowing that the answer would be the same as in RE?

If you read his response it's pretty obvious. Asking a question to prove a point is not that outlandish of an idea. It happens sometimes.

Anyway, since that was all discussed a while back in this thread already... how about...

Back on topic. What kind of data would you like? (I'm talking to Tom or any other FE ers that would seriously like some raw data)

I'm a HAM operator. Haven't had a chance to work the bands in a while and thought I'd get out my old 2 meter rig and see who I could call up out there. Seems to be working pretty good still.

I've not been to a competition in probably 10 years or more, but here is the 2006 EME results page, and the article although brief, at least outlines the frequencies and some equipment used for such things. I'm sure I can chew the fat with some of the guys (and hey... 2 different YL contacts [women] ... more and more women every year in HAM radio. Nice.) and find about any reference materials, data, personal data, etc. you might want.

Just ask. Let me know what the specifics are that you are wanting, and I'll be glad to provide!

Anyone?

Link fixes / updates:
ARRL EME Contest results www.arrl.org/contests/results/2006/eme.pdf
ARRL EME Contest Rules http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2006/eme.html
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Quote from: Optimus Prime on December 02, 2007, 04:15:34 PM

I think that was the whole point.

He asked a question knowing that the answer would be the same as in RE?

I'm sure you've heard of this:

"Socratic Method (or Method of Elenchus or Socratic Debate) is a dialectic method of inquiry, largely applied to the examination of key moral concepts and first described by Plato in the Socratic Dialogues. For this, Socrates is customarily regarded as the father of Western ethics or moral philosophy.

It is a form of philosophical inquiry. It typically involves two speakers at any one time, with one leading the discussion and the other agreeing to certain assumptions put forward for his acceptance or rejection. The method is credited to Socrates, who began to engage in such discussion with his fellow Athenians after a visit to the Oracle of Delphi."

I'm sure you've heard of this:

"Socratic Method (or Method of Elenchus or Socratic Debate) is a dialectic method of inquiry, largely applied to the examination of key moral concepts and first described by Plato in the Socratic Dialogues. For this, Socrates is customarily regarded as the father of Western ethics or moral philosophy.

It is a form of philosophical inquiry. It typically involves two speakers at any one time, with one leading the discussion and the other agreeing to certain assumptions put forward for his acceptance or rejection. The method is credited to Socrates, who began to engage in such discussion with his fellow Athenians after a visit to the Oracle of Delphi."

Yes, I use it all the time. However, I was trying to find out by what logic he was trying to use in assuming it might be different than RE.