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So why is the north pole in the centre?
« on: November 22, 2007, 07:33:10 AM »
I've noticed in all pictures of the flat earth, the north pole is in the centre and the south pole forms the wall of ice around the disc- why not have the south pole in the centre with the north pole forming the wall of ice?

It seems very elitist to put your own half of the hemisphere in the centre. Do you think you're more important than the southern hemisphere?
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2007, 07:59:29 AM »
lol - its because people in the northern hemisphere came up with this bullshit
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if i remember, austria is an old, dis-used name for what is now Germany.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2007, 08:57:31 AM »
Any form of hot liquid core would burn a huge hole in the north pole on FE
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2007, 09:39:29 AM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 08:57:31 AM
Any form of hot liquid core would burn a huge hole in the north pole on FE
no
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 10:06:16 AM »
Because in his book "South Sea Voyages" the polar explorer Sir James Clark Ross reported a 60,000 mile voyage after his three year Antarctic expedition to find a south sea passage to the south magnetic pole.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2007, 10:10:42 AM by Tom Bishop »
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 10:11:36 AM »
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 08:57:31 AM
Any form of hot liquid core would burn a huge hole in the north pole on FE
no
Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 10:31:38 AM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 08:57:31 AM
Any form of hot liquid core would burn a huge hole in the north pole on FE
no
Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
No, it wouldn't have to be a spherical "core" (a misnomer), you are ignoring gravitation pushing it flat against a flat "surface". 
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2007, 10:43:02 AM »
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 08:57:31 AM
Any form of hot liquid core would burn a huge hole in the north pole on FE
no
Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
No, it wouldn't have to be a spherical "core" (a misnomer), you are ignoring gravitation pushing it flat against a flat "surface". 
In which case it would melt through the other side of the planet.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2007, 10:46:48 AM »
Do you enjoy just making stuff up?  It doesn't melt the mantle and crust for the same reasons it doesn't on a round earth.  Depth, pressure and density.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2007, 10:53:06 AM »
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 10:46:48 AM
Do you enjoy just making stuff up?  It doesn't melt the mantle and crust for the same reasons it doesn't on a round earth.  Depth, pressure and density.
Which is why it can only work on a sherical earth. that much pressure can only exist in spherical form where there are no weak points in it's structure. a solid hot core on a flat earth would either fall through the bottom of the planet, or stay in the middle and burn a hole through top and bottom. Take a galaxy for example. The huge amount of light emitted by it's core is seen from the top and bottom but cannot be seen from the sides appart from a glow around the surrounding disc star systems
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2007, 10:57:04 AM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 10:46:48 AM
Do you enjoy just making stuff up?  It doesn't melt the mantle and crust for the same reasons it doesn't on a round earth.  Depth, pressure and density.
Which is why it can only work on a sherical earth. that much pressure can only exist in spherical form where there are no weak points in it's structure. a solid hot core on a flat earth would either fall through the bottom of the planet, or stay in the middle and burn a hole through top and bottom.
Fall through the bottom into what?  The massive force that is accelerating the earth upwards? That much preassure can exist fine on a flat earth.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2007, 11:07:05 AM »
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 10:46:48 AM
Do you enjoy just making stuff up?  It doesn't melt the mantle and crust for the same reasons it doesn't on a round earth.  Depth, pressure and density.
Which is why it can only work on a sherical earth. that much pressure can only exist in spherical form where there are no weak points in it's structure. a solid hot core on a flat earth would either fall through the bottom of the planet, or stay in the middle and burn a hole through top and bottom.
Fall through the bottom into what?  The massive force that is accelerating the earth upwards? That much preassure can exist fine on a flat earth.
In that case then all of the core's heat would be at it's most concentrated on 2 points. directly above and below it. melting the north pole and what ever mysterious world exists below it.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2007, 11:08:46 AM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 10:57:04 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:53:06 AM
Quote from: Username on November 22, 2007, 10:46:48 AM
Do you enjoy just making stuff up?  It doesn't melt the mantle and crust for the same reasons it doesn't on a round earth.  Depth, pressure and density.
Which is why it can only work on a sherical earth. that much pressure can only exist in spherical form where there are no weak points in it's structure. a solid hot core on a flat earth would either fall through the bottom of the planet, or stay in the middle and burn a hole through top and bottom.
Fall through the bottom into what?  The massive force that is accelerating the earth upwards? That much preassure can exist fine on a flat earth.
In that case then all of the core's heat would be at it's most concentrated on 2 points. directly above and below it. melting the north pole and what ever mysterious world exists below it.
No.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2007, 11:13:17 AM »

No.
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Pathetic arguement.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2007, 11:14:30 AM »
You and your "melting"...
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2007, 11:15:13 AM »
Your statement just doesn't follow.  I'm sorry.  I'm done with you, you are failing to grasp simple concepts.  Time for some turkeyday.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2007, 11:56:22 AM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:11:36 AM
Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
That's the shortest route for the RE too.  So...why doesn't it cause melting?
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2007, 11:58:51 AM »
Obviously due to pressure and density which would be present in both models. 
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eric bloedow

Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2007, 01:48:52 PM »
oh, now i remember: because the stars in the sky appear to rotate around the north pole.

that is, when observered from the northern hemisphere! when in the southern hemisphere, they appear to rotate around the SOUTH pole!
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2007, 01:53:20 PM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 22, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:11:36 AM
Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
That's the shortest route for the RE too.  So...why doesn't it cause melting?
RE is SPHERICAL. meaning the heat is the same in every direction.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2007, 02:04:33 PM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 22, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:11:36 AM
Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
That's the shortest route for the RE too.  So...why doesn't it cause melting?
RE is SPHERICAL. meaning the heat is the same in every direction.
Ok, so why doesn't the entire earth melt then?
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2007, 02:05:46 PM »
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 22, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 10:11:36 AM
Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
That's the shortest route for the RE too.  So...why doesn't it cause melting?
RE is SPHERICAL. meaning the heat is the same in every direction.

Errr, no. It's not spherical at all. You keep getting your facts wrong.
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2007, 03:36:39 PM »
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Quote from: SparteX on November 22, 2007, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: TheEngineer on November 22, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
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Yes. a molten core would have to be spherical, thus the shortest route for the heat to go would be directly upward at the north pole, causing a lovely melting.
That's the shortest route for the RE too.  So...why doesn't it cause melting?
RE is SPHERICAL. meaning the heat is the same in every direction.
Ok, so why doesn't the entire earth melt then?
Because the distance from core to crust is too far, the magma cools before it has chance to do any damage
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2007, 03:51:40 PM »
So, why would the FE melt?
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2007, 03:52:09 PM »
it wouldnt, it doesnt exist
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2007, 03:53:49 PM »
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So, why would the FE melt?
The distance from top to bottom is tiny compared to left to right. think about it. superheated ball in the middle of a disk of material, it's gonna burn a hole in the middle
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2007, 04:45:09 PM »
Just how thin do you think the FE is?
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eric bloedow

Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2007, 04:51:31 PM »
check out this map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Usgs_map_traverse_mercator.PNG
the north pole is NOT in the center of this one!
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2007, 04:53:05 PM »
What's your point?
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Re: So why is the north pole in the centre?
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2007, 05:06:35 PM »
ok, let me try to state it as clearly as i can:

in the RE model, the north and south poles are the axis of earth's rotation, which stand still relative to the rest of earth.

in the FE model, the north pole is the center and...there IS no south pole at ALL!
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