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eric bloedow

hurricanes and other weather patterns
« on: November 20, 2007, 01:03:26 PM »
i will start with this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane

notice it says hurricanes north of the equator rotate counterclockwise and hurricanes south of the equator rotate clockwise.
why?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolus_Effect

now my point: this would NOT be the case on the flat earth. in fact, most flat earthers think earth does not spin at all, in which case...there would BE no hurricanes AT ALL!
i'm sure the people of New Orleans would consider this interesting...
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 01:04:54 PM »
The antimoon explains all.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 01:06:07 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:03:26 PM
in fact, most flat earthers think earth does not spin at all, in which case...there would BE no hurricanes AT ALL!
Since the Coriolis force is not an actual force, that must mean there would BE no hurricanes on the RE AT ALL!
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2007, 01:06:57 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:03:26 PM
now my point: this would NOT be the case on the flat earth. in fact, most flat earthers think earth does not spin at all, in which case...there would BE no hurricanes AT ALL!
i'm sure the people of New Orleans would consider this interesting...

Why wouldn't there be hurricanes? Because you say so? Stop being retarded.
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eric bloedow

Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2007, 01:16:30 PM »
now you are saying the "antimoon" makes hurricanes spin the opposite direction? that's the stupidest thing i've EVER heard!

does your fictional antimoon somehow make the stars south of the equator move the opposite direction as well?

my point: there ARE actual hurricanes on the actual earth!

do you know ANYTHING about weather at all?!
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2007, 01:18:35 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:16:30 PM
now you are saying the "antimoon" makes hurricanes spin the opposite direction? that's the stupidest thing i've EVER heard!

Who said that?

Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:16:30 PM
does your fictional antimoon somehow make the stars south of the equator move the opposite direction as well?

Why would it?

Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:16:30 PM
my point: there ARE actual hurricanes on the actual earth!

Obviously.

Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:16:30 PM
do you know ANYTHING about weather at all?!

Yes.
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eric bloedow

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2007, 01:23:56 PM »
ok, so just HOW would the moon or antimoon affect hurricane spins? YOU answer THAT! if Coriolus doesn't exist, what DOES explain this FACT?
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2007, 01:26:41 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:23:56 PM
ok, so just HOW would the moon or antimoon affect hurricane spins?

Who said they did?

Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 01:23:56 PM
if Coriolus doesn't exist, what DOES explain this FACT?

Lots of things could explain it. As for something you'd believe, probably nothing.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2007, 01:31:50 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:06:57 PM
Stop being retarded.

You first.

Seriously, explain the whole antimoon thing before making overzealous claims here.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2007, 01:33:45 PM »
I'm sorry, I know nothing of the anti-moon. You're the one who brought it up in this thread for whatever reason. I think you should stop making the overzealous claims.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2007, 01:35:04 PM »
the RE explanation: the coriolus effect (not force, i never said that) explains it VERY simply.

i am still waiting for ANY FEr to come up with ANY explanation of how hurricanes would spin, or even FORM, in the FE model.

anti-moon was a desperate attempt to explain TIDES on the FE, btw.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2007, 01:36:05 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:33:45 PM
I'm sorry, I know nothing of the anti-moon. You're the one who brought it up in this thread for whatever reason. I think you should stop making the overzealous claims.

First of all:
Posted by: Archbishop Bishop - Posted on: Today at 01:04:54 PM

"The antimoon explains all."

Second of all:

Why should I explain the theory you support for you?
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 01:37:43 PM »
Archbishop Bishop is a troll; he is not an FEer. Neither am I, so it's not my theory.

Seriously, you should pay more attention.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 01:38:44 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:37:43 PM
Archbishop Bishop is a troll; he is not an FEer. Neither am I, so it's not my theory.

Seriously, you should pay more attention.

Then what the hell are you doing here, beating down REers?

Sounds like you're trolling here as well.
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eric bloedow

Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2007, 01:39:49 PM »
well, i'm trying to be seriously Pro-RE and anti-FE here. i'm still waiting for FE's theory of hurricanes.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2007, 01:41:06 PM »
Quote from: Gigano on November 20, 2007, 01:38:44 PM
Then what the hell are you doing here, beating down REers?

Sounds like you're trolling here as well.

I beat down stupidity and ignorance on whatever side it is on. Plus, I enjoy debating.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2007, 01:45:03 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: Gigano on November 20, 2007, 01:38:44 PM
Then what the hell are you doing here, beating down REers?

Sounds like you're trolling here as well.

I beat down stupidity and ignorance on whatever side it is on. Plus, I enjoy debating.

How can you beat down stupidity and ignorance if you don't support one of each theories?

And you're not debating, you're just callin people stupid and crowning yourself omniscient.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2007, 01:47:55 PM »
Eric is difficult to debate with because he brings in things that aren't even being discussed, and he purports the actual beliefs of the FEers.

Why do I need to support a theory to identify and beat down stupidity and ignorance?
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2007, 01:49:20 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:47:55 PM
Eric is difficult to debate with because he brings in things that aren't even being discussed, and he purports the actual beliefs of the FEers.

Why do I need to support a theory to identify and beat down stupidity and ignorance?

Because you either agree with RE, or FE. You can't do both. And since we're talking about RE and FE and you're attacking both sides for their claims... it sounds very very ambigious.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2007, 01:50:36 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:47:55 PM
Eric is difficult to debate with because he brings in things that aren't even being discussed, and he purports the actual beliefs of the FEers.

Not to mention he often feels it's fair game to just make stuff up.  How do you take somebody like that who is supposedly basing his observations on real world science seriously?
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2007, 01:51:49 PM »
No, the simple aspect is that both are possible. Accepting one versus the other invokes several fallacies.

Given the course of my experiences and the evidence, a spherical Earth is far more likely. That says nothing of whether or not it is actual truth, and that should be apparent.
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2007, 02:02:29 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:51:49 PM
No, the simple aspect is that both are possible. Accepting one versus the other invokes several fallacies.

Your last claim would involve something which called a priori; a certain set of statements that are said to be true. Like an a priori of the bible is the statement that Jesus is God on earth.

Your a priori would be that all the evidence delivered by both theories is true, and we both know that that's impossible, since some evidence contradicts the other.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2007, 02:05:02 PM »
Quote from: Gigano on November 20, 2007, 02:02:29 PM
Your a priori would be that all the evidence delivered by both theories is true, and we both know that that's impossible, since some evidence contradicts the other.

All the evidence delivered has the possibility of being true; not that it is.
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2007, 02:07:08 PM »
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: Gigano on November 20, 2007, 02:02:29 PM
Your a priori would be that all the evidence delivered by both theories is true, and we both know that that's impossible, since some evidence contradicts the other.

All the evidence delivered has the possibility of being true; not that it is.

You know, the messages I am responding to have the possibility of someone typing them... Oh god... I can't figure it out! Oh well, I can say that there's an actual human being typing them or a pink haired unicorn.
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2007, 02:23:50 PM »
Quote from: Gigano on November 20, 2007, 02:07:08 PM
You know, the messages I am responding to have the possibility of someone typing them... Oh god... I can't figure it out! Oh well, I can say that there's an actual human being typing them or a pink haired unicorn.

That's true, you can. This actually reminds me of an article that was in Scientific American Mind, about the author being fooled by a computer program.
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« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2007, 05:52:23 PM »
oh, i am "proporting" that FErs actually believe what they post here. am i wrong? i suppose it's possible some of you are just arguing the FE side for fun...

that reminds me of something i heard a long time ago: a system of "logic" that can supposedly "prove" ANYTHING, no matter how bizarre. but it starts with "X does NOT equal X" and continues from that obvious contradiction...
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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2007, 05:55:35 PM »
Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 05:52:23 PM
oh, i am "proporting" that FErs actually believe what they post here. am i wrong? i suppose it's possible some of you are just arguing the FE side for fun...
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Quote from: eric bloedow on November 20, 2007, 05:52:23 PM
that reminds me of something i heard a long time ago: a system of "logic" that can supposedly "prove" ANYTHING, no matter how bizarre. but it starts with "X does NOT equal X" and continues from that obvious contradiction...
What about it?
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Re: hurricanes and other weather patterns
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2007, 06:01:19 PM »
Quote from: Gigano on November 20, 2007, 01:49:20 PM
Quote from: divito the truthist on November 20, 2007, 01:47:55 PM
Eric is difficult to debate with because he brings in things that aren't even being discussed, and he purports the actual beliefs of the FEers.

Why do I need to support a theory to identify and beat down stupidity and ignorance?

Because you either agree with RE, or FE. You can't do both. And since we're talking about RE and FE and you're attacking both sides for their claims... it sounds very very ambigious.

You can agree with  neither and still argue for both. That's what I do.
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eric bloedow

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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2007, 05:21:15 PM »
i'm still waiting for an FE explanation of why hurricanes south of the equator spin the opposite direction.

and just 2 words is NOT an explanation, it's a cop-out!
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eric bloedow

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« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2007, 01:35:59 PM »
still waiting...
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