Photographic hoax?

If this image was taken using a fish-eye lens, how come no curvature is seen on the wing?

Flawlesss post.

Perhaps my eyes (or lack thereof) are playing tricks on me.

It must be a fake, with the earth as a background.

Fish-eye lenses do not distort everything within an image. That may not explain this particular picture though.

That image is distorted due to the bulge of the aircraft's window. The fish eye effect does not necessarily affect all areas of the image because this particular window does not bulge outwards uniformly. It's most likely a large vertical dome bulge which runs down the middle of the window.

As for curvature as seen from the edge of space, it comes from the fact that on a flat earth we are looking down at a circle. The Ice Wall and other continents of the earth are still tens of thousands of miles away horizontally from the observer at an altitude of 100 miles (edge of space), and thus beyond the resolution of the human eye and merged with the line of the horizon, indiscernible. This is why the view is limited to the immediate vicinity below the observer.

We can confirm that we are looking down at the circle of the earth by noting that shots from amature high altitude balloons show an elliptical horizon. If the earth were a globe, all curvature seen in photographs would appear as an arc of a circle.

That image is distorted by the bulge of the aircraft's window. The fish eye effect does not necessarily affect all areas of the image because the window does not bulge outwards uniformly, most likely a large vertical dome bulge which runs down the middle of the window.

As for curvature as seen from the edge of space, it comes from the fact that on a flat earth we are looking down at a circle. Ice Wall, other continents still tens of thousands of miles away from an altitude of 100 miles, and thus beyond the resolution of the human eye and merged with the line of the horizon.

I knew I should of posted before Tom so I didn't have to agree.  Its from the window.  But to see the curvature from a plane search for the ultra wide angle shot.  The wide angle part allows the curvature to be seen, while looking through a narrow window hides it. 

As for the second part, I can tell the difference between a pizza and a basket ball.  But can Tom?  Thats anyones guess. 

That image is distorted due to the bulge of the aircraft's window. The fish eye effect does not necessarily affect all areas of the image because this particular window does not bulge outwards uniformly. It's most likely a large vertical dome bulge which runs down the middle of the window.

As for curvature as seen from the edge of space, it comes from the fact that on a flat earth we are looking down at a circle. The Ice Wall and other continents of the earth are still tens of thousands of miles away from an altitude of 100 miles, and thus beyond the resolution of the human eye and merged with the line of the horizon. We can confirm this by seeing that armature high altitude balloons show an elliptical horizon. If the earth were a globe, all curvature would appear as an arc of a circle.

I'm sure that these vertical center bulge windows are commonplace that you can tell us who manufactures them? No? I didn't think so. Just more imaginings of a fool.

And the challenge stands still: Show that the Earth would appear as an arc of a circle, vice of an ellipse. You've failed every time before...

If this image was taken using a fish-eye lens, how come no curvature is seen on the wing?

Excellent observation. Since we know wings require a certain curvature to create lift, this is either a fake or an altered photograph.

But seriously, cropping and superimposition. Almost literally, some scissors and glue, nothing new.

It's so obviously an altered photo.  This is exactly why we don't allow photographic evidence on this site.   

Really now. The OP does not realize just how small the earth would need to be if the apparent curvature in the image was accurate.

Wow, Tom actually said something right.

Wow, Tom actually said something right.

Tom has yet to say something wrong. RE'ers band together and pretend he's an idiot because none of them have the attention span required to read most of his posts.

We don't need to read his posts anymore though, once you've read a few, you've read 'em all

We don't need to read his posts anymore though, once you've read a few, you've read 'em all

If you've actually read his posts, you are in a very small minority here. He does repeat himself often, I'm sure you understand why though.

I used to read them, but then I realised that life is too short

the Earth would fit in my garden

Quote from: General Gadget Penis on September 05, 2007, 07:23:17 AM

We don't need to read his posts anymore though, once you've read a few, you've read 'em all

If you've actually read his posts, you are in a very small minority here. He does repeat himself often, I'm sure you understand why though.

Tom says stuff that seems to be right at a very casual glance. RE'ers have contradicted these posts and he has completely ignored them and pretends it never happened.

I used to read them, but then I realised that life is too short

I have most of them memorized.   

"That image is distorted by the bulge of the aircraft's window. The fish eye effect does not necessarily affect all areas of the image because the window does not bulge outwards uniformly, most likely a large vertical dome bulge which runs down the middle of the window."

when you say that the fish eye does not affect the entire window, you are inadvertently accepting the fact that the there is a fish eye effect on the window and therefore the window exists and the image is not faked.
before you shoot that down, look how it affects the rest of the image apart from the wing, there is a curve right to the edge...

Why would the window be a vertical bulge?  If you wanted to create a window to withstand pressure differential, you would have equal thickness throughout and uniform curvature (a hemisphere would be ideal).

good point. i dont think designers would risk explosive ecompression to keep the conspiracy active

good point. i dont think designers would risk explosive ecompression to keep the conspiracy active

They don't need to risk it if it's safe.

Quote from: General Gadget Penis on September 05, 2007, 07:45:13 AM

I used to read them, but then I realised that life is too short

I have most of them memorized.   

You need to get out more

That image is distorted due to the bulge of the aircraft's window.

Like this?



Or this?



Also, I don't know how big you think the Earth is, but according to your own the-horizon-is-always-30-miles-away speeches, if you were to actually see the curve of a flat earth, the Earth would have to be less than 100 miles total diamater..

Quote from: Tom Bishop on September 04, 2007, 03:51:00 PM

That image is distorted due to the bulge of the aircraft's window.

Like this?



Or this?



Also, I don't know how big you think the Earth is, but according to your own the-horizon-is-always-30-miles-away speeches, if you were to actually see the curve of a flat earth, the Earth would have to be less than 100 miles total diamater..

Tom's reply will be something along the lines of "Air has a visibility limit of 30 miles." or some such shite.

Like this?



Or this?



Also, I don't know how big you think the Earth is, but according to your own the-horizon-is-always-30-miles-away speeches, if you were to actually see the curve of a flat earth, the Earth would have to be less than 100 miles total diamater..

Actually that's a BAD example coming from a RE-er. The horizont line viewed from a plane at 35000 feet looks superflat, almost concave. I cannot divulge why, but maybe gulliver can initiate you into this...
The first photo is a fake - anyone that did flew at least once knows that. The curvature from that pic would imply that the Earth is round and has a diameter of 40-50 miles... come on, you can do better than a really bad edited photo.

Actually that's a BAD example coming from a RE-er. The horizont line viewed from a plane at 35000 feet looks superflat, almost concave. I cannot divulge why, but maybe gulliver can initiate you into this...
The first photo is a fake - anyone that did flew at least once knows that. The curvature from that pic would imply that the Earth is round and has a diameter of 40-50 miles... come on, you can do better than a really bad edited photo.

It's a small world we live in 

a small world surrounded by ice

hi am bak 

how the hell is that photo a hoax!! i think you should rent a plane and fly up and see for urself!

and u have heard of the bridge that is further apart at the top purely because the earth is curved!!! and that it spreads out the higher i go!!!

so ttthhhh