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Mrs. Peach

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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2007, 07:22:12 PM »
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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2007, 07:33:47 PM »
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Why is there even an argument? You can see a clear curvature from the air. Welcome to reality.

TheEngineer, as a air pilot, tells us that there is no such curvature in reality. I can agree. I've been on many international flights and I've never seen curvature to the earth.

Your image was simply taken with the wrong lens type. Every time this thread pops up there is a unanimous agreement; curvature is not visible from any flying altitude.

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I'm a pilot.  I've never seen this curvature.

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>>> And as for needing experiments that you can reproduce, why dont you learn how to fly a plane and see for yourself ! ! !

I have learned.  But I was greatly disappointed when I saw no curvature.

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I fly a lot and have never seen this 'curvature'.

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I fly a lot and have never seen the curvature of the earth.

>> Really? So, you have never looked out the window before? Because it is clearly there.

>>> Seeing as I am the one doing the flying, it's really hard to not look out the window.

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I've flown hundreds of times, both over land and water, and have never witnessed this 'curvature'.

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I have never seen the curvature of the earth in flight.

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>>is that a presumption or have you actually seen it with your own eyes (as have i)?

>>>I am a pilot.  I fly a lot and have never witnessed the earth to be curved.

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I have flown in a plane many times and have never seen curvature of the Earth. The answers to most of your questions should have been in the FAQ.

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I've flown on commercial airlines many times and never seen the Earth's curvature (as you can imagine, I have specifically looked for it instead of giving a cursory glance).
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« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2007, 07:37:29 PM »
URL for the sample image in full size:
http://www.aopa.org/images/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-3-061x_1.jpg

Also startling is how exactly the colors are matched.  Hard to do on a scanner.



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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2007, 07:38:15 PM »




Hah, I was about to do a search too.

Same birth date, issue date.

Notice how the text in his name and weight are different than the original image as well. He also added a certificate number.

He also conveniently made the image smaller.
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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2007, 07:43:01 PM »
I knew rentacow was lying through his teeth.  ;D
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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2007, 07:50:14 PM »
Elvis has left the building.  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2007, 07:56:45 PM »
The birth date is indeed a startling coincidence. Anyone holding an ATP certificate before May 16 '02 was automatically given the new style of certificate when it was introduced on May 16 '02. Just as a drivers license when your old one expires. Even if you don't think that proves I'm a pilot TheEngineer is unable to show any "pilot knowledge" and I can and am willing to do so.
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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2007, 08:03:18 PM »
Quote from: Mrs. More on June 25, 2007, 07:37:29 PM
Also startling is how exactly the colors are matched.  Hard to do on a scanner.
1) I used a scanner a the local Kinkos (fairly good quality?). I personally do not own a scanner.
2) Are you sure the colors are matched exactly? It doesn't look that way to me.
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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2007, 08:05:32 PM »
Quote from: rentacow on June 25, 2007, 07:56:45 PM
The birth date is indeed a startling coincidence. Anyone holding an ATP certificate before May 16 '02 was automatically given the new style of certificate when it was introduced on May 16 '02. Just as a drivers license when your old one expires. Even if you don't think that proves I'm a pilot TheEngineer is unable to show any "pilot knowledge" and I can and am willing to do so.

Can you explain why every other piece of text matches the one found vs. your name, weight and cert. number?

Also, the X's represent how many character spaces are available. It's highly unlikely they would be used on a real license.
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« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2007, 08:15:34 PM »
They are all common values.

1. I was born in the USA.
2. I cannot explain the birth date. It could happen to anyone.
3. I didn't put too much accuracy in the height. When you were filling out for your drivers licence, did you?
4. Hair and Eye color is not too uncommon.
5. Flight Engineer is a very common rating. I'm working on getting rated for CAT III landings (Full autopilot control until touchdown) next.
6. I should have blacked some of my cert. # because the first four letters are the first four letters of your last name.

I will admit the text looks slightly out of place, I can only guess it is because the computer superimposes your information over the blank template. X's take up space(?).
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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2007, 08:21:39 PM »
The birthdate, date of issue, hair color, eye color, rating, and height all being the same would be an absolutely astronomical coincidence.
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« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2007, 08:25:05 PM »
The undeniability of this lie very much calls into question the "curvature at 6000 feet" bull (and indeed any other personal evidence you might bring to the table).  I guess score one for the FEers.  Too bad.
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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2007, 08:30:59 PM »
Would you mind posting the back of your license as well?
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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2007, 08:42:04 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the One and Only on June 25, 2007, 08:21:39 PM
The birthdate, date of issue, hair color, eye color, rating, and height all being the same would be an absolutely astronomical coincidence.

DOB: 1:365 is not astronomical (but indeed unlikely).

Issue date: 1:2 is not at all out of the question. (Having a certificate before or after the new style's introduction.)

Hair color: 1:4 is not astronomical. (Brown, Black, Blonde or Red.)

Eye color: 1:4 in not astronomical. (Brown, Green, Blue or Hazel.)

Rating: Once you are ATP rated you start with a "Flight Engineer" rating and their is no requirement to advance in rating. Many pilots only hold "Flight Engineer" their whole career.

I don't see what is so unlikely.
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« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2007, 08:46:12 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the One and Only on June 25, 2007, 08:25:05 PM
The undeniability of this lie very much calls into question the "curvature at 6000 miles" bull (and indeed any other personal evidence you might bring to the table).  I guess score one for the FEers.  Too bad.
I assume you mean 6000 feet? Since, in your opinion, I have not proven to be a pilot, how is it that TheEngineer's word is still valid?

Scanning the back of my license would prove nothing more than I have proven already.
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« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2007, 08:53:22 PM »
Well rentacow, you're not the first guy who came on here and got carried away.  So you were playing the simulator game very well and decided you could bluff us all.  Just be a mensch about it, okay?

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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2007, 08:56:44 PM »
Quote from: rentacow on June 25, 2007, 08:46:12 PM
Scanning the back of my license would prove nothing more than I have proven already.

From myself seeing the back of the license, it is significantly harder to fake, so posting it would do much for your case if it is actually legit.
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« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2007, 09:21:06 PM »
lol

Because my goal in life is to prove myself to you. Try again.
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Re: TheEngineer is not a pilot.
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2007, 09:27:36 PM »
Quote from: rentacow on June 25, 2007, 09:21:06 PM
lol

Because my goal in life is to prove myself to you. Try again.

Meh, you don't have to. Right now it simply looks like you're someone who got lazy in Photoshop.
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« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2007, 09:36:56 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on June 25, 2007, 07:33:47 PM
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Why is there even an argument? You can see a clear curvature from the air. Welcome to reality.

TheEngineer, as a air pilot, tells us that there is no such curvature in reality. I can agree. I've been on many international flights and I've never seen curvature to the earth.

Your image was simply taken with the wrong lens type. Every time this thread pops up there is a unanimous agreement; curvature is not visible from any flying altitude.

If there were a unanimous agreement, there would not be an argument and a thread, and both are readily visible. This seems to be transparently false.

What proof do you have that this effect is caused by a certain lens type?
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« Reply #50 on: June 25, 2007, 10:00:39 PM »
Off topic:
His proof is that he is Tom Bishop.
On topic:
If I'm a pilot or not does not change the validity of any of my statements. I can only give you my word, now on that I'm indeed a pilot. I have given all the evidence I am willing to give, you dismissed it. TheEngineer (who is ignoring this thread) has refused multiple requests to prove his claim of being a pilot. With that, my statements are more plausible than TheEngineer's.
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« Reply #51 on: June 25, 2007, 10:02:46 PM »
TheEngineer doesn't need to prove anything to you.  Like it or not, he has credibility on this forum (as Diego pointed out).  You really don't.
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« Reply #52 on: June 25, 2007, 10:08:34 PM »
He has creditability in that, he has been a member longer than I have.

Their is evidence that he is not a pilot, since he is unwilling to prove otherwise. Their is evidence that I am, even if that evidence is that their is no proof that I'm not a pilot. You can stop playing the credibility card now.
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« Reply #53 on: June 25, 2007, 10:09:59 PM »
Yeah, my point is, maybe it's time for you to stop playing the credibility card now.
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« Reply #54 on: June 25, 2007, 10:26:36 PM »
Why? I'm the pilot here.
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« Reply #55 on: June 25, 2007, 11:04:08 PM »
Quote from: rentacow on June 25, 2007, 10:08:34 PM
He has creditability in that, he has been a member longer than I have.

Their is evidence that he is not a pilot, since he is unwilling to prove otherwise. Their is evidence that I am, even if that evidence is that their is no proof that I'm not a pilot. You can stop playing the credibility card now.

He has credibility because he is intellectually superior to you, and has shown that he's a credible source of information and witty posts. Meaning, you can go fuck yourself. Also, nice photoshopping.

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« Reply #56 on: June 25, 2007, 11:11:10 PM »
Quote from: Diego of the Hive Fleet Leviathan on June 25, 2007, 11:04:08 PM
He has credibility because he is [opinion], and has shown that he's a [lie] source of information and [opinion] posts. Meaning, you can go treat yourself to some ice cream. Also, nice photoshopping.

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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2007, 06:00:40 AM »
Quote from: Mrs. More on June 25, 2007, 08:53:22 PM
Well rentacow, you're not the first guy who came on here and got carried away.  So you were playing the simulator game very well and decided you could bluff us all.  Just be a mensch about it, okay?

Uh oh, she found your secret!

Quote from: rentacow on June 25, 2007, 09:21:06 PM
lol

Because my goal in life is to prove myself to you. Try again.

You just gave TheEngineer all the defense he needs, lol.
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« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2007, 06:46:41 AM »
Frankly who gives a rats ass if either of you are pilots? rentacow may or may not be lying, who gives a fuck?
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« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2007, 10:47:14 AM »
Quote from: Skeptical ATM on June 26, 2007, 06:46:41 AM
Frankly who gives a rats ass if either of you are pilots? rentacow may or may not be lying, who gives a fuck?

Because he's not only being a douchebag, he's being a hypocritical ass.

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