JFK's assassination

I don't really know a lot about JFK conspiracy theories.  Does anyone here think his assassination was a government conspiracy?  If so, who did it and why?

It was all orchestrated by Jackie to get revenge on her husband for all his indiscretions.  I asked the tarot cards and that's what they said.

Anyone?  Anyone at all?

De cahds dohn't lie.

i don't really know a lot about JFK conspiracy theories.  Does anyone here think his assassination was a government conspiracy?  If so, who did it and why?

Absolutely. JFK, one of the pioneers of the USA's space program farce, was about to blow the lid on the Conspiracy once and for all. No wonder he got shot by Conspiracy goon(s).

No.  I'm afraid the Tarot does not agree with that scenario at all.

Absolutely. JFK, one of the pioneers of the USA's space program farce, was about to blow the lid on the Conspiracy once and for all. No wonder he got shot by Conspiracy goon(s).

But this was before NASA even went into space.  How far back does this conspiracy go?  And if it really preceded NASA, what was their motive?

But this was before NASA even went into space.  How far back does this conspiracy go?  And if it really preceded NASA, what was their motive?

NASA was founded in 1958.

The Conspiracy has been around since at least late 1800's, if not before.

Who is FJK?

What was the conspiracy's motive in the 1800s?  It couldn't have been about NASA, there's no way they could foresee what happened more than fifty years from then.  And even if they could foresee a space agency, why would they care if some crooks got to bilk the government?

I don't really know a lot about JFK conspiracy theories.  Does anyone here think his assassination was a government conspiracy?  If so, who did it and why?

I've studied the assassination at length. There was definitely a cover-up, but as for if the government did it, it's still speculation.

The level at which it was executed and covered up, the CIA is the #1 suspect. The CIA was going to be disbanded by JFK, so this puts more believability in their involvement. It's believed that they teamed up with the Mafia to accomplish this and tie up the loose ends.

Next, Cuban communists/KGB are also considered. Because of Kennedy's victory in the Cuban Missile Crisis, they plotted their revenge. Once the CIA and FBI discovered their involvement, they covered it up to prevent public outcry for another war, with them already in Vietnam their resources would be spread much thinner.

The last most plausible suspect is simply the Military Industrial Complex. It's no surprise that they thrive on war, and with JFK's plan to pull out of Vietnam, and the obvious reversal of his plan when Johnson showed up, it raises some red flags.

As for my opinion, out of all the books I own, videos I've seen and evidence (that cool magic bullet that the Warren Commission tried to sell the US citizens) on the subject...I believe it was a mix of the MIC and CIA.

 

What was the conspiracy's motive in the 1800s?  It couldn't have been about NASA, there's no way they could foresee what happened more than fifty years from then.  And even if they could foresee a space agency, why would they care if some crooks got to bilk the government?

It's completely possible that the Conspiracy planned, hundreds of years in advance, to fake space flight. Science fiction regarding spaceships existed in the very early 20th century, possibly in order to prime the adults of the 50's and 60's for belief in something which was wholly impossible.

Even if not, there are other possible conspiracy motives. For example, while a map is simple enough to produce, a globe requires difficult craftsmanship, and can easily be caparisoned with expensive-looking ornaments and sold at cutthroat prices.

I've often argued that space travel is not a central focus of the conspiracy, merely part of it. One major issue is the effect global warming will (and does) have on the Ice Wall. The founders of the Conspiracy would have been aware of this during the Industrial Revolution, and documented sea-level rises have been observered as early as 1814. It's possible that the ultra-hedonists of the Conspiracy are using the myth of the Round Earth to make their destructive (but lucrative) global-warming-inducing industries seem legitimate and not that big a deal.

Before the 1800s, the line begins to blur between "Conspiracy" and "just plain wrong about the shape of the Earth". Newton, for example, may have just been incorrect rather than deliberately misleading.

I've studied the assassination at length. There was definitely a cover-up, but as for if the government did it, it's still speculation.

You don't know that.  The guy that killed him was also killed, thus we will never now.

Its has been demonstrated at least twice that I know of, that 1 bullet could hit JFK in the neck and then hit the governor 3 times.  I’m sure you already knew that through your research and just omitted it because it didn’t fit your side. 

Quote from: divito on June 13, 2007, 03:08:16 PM

I've studied the assassination at length. There was definitely a cover-up, but as for if the government did it, it's still speculation.

You don't know that.  The guy that killed him was also killed, thus we will never now.

Its has been demonstrated at least twice that I know of, that 1 bullet could hit JFK in the neck and then hit the governor 3 times.  I’m sure you already knew that through your research and just omitted it because it didn’t fit your side. 

Ahaha. The guy that supposedly killed him was conveniently killed right after.

There were seven wounds on JFK and Connally. Simple angles and trajectories tell us that a single bullet could not do all this like the Warren Commission said.

Nothing I have seen or read about JFK's murder points to conspiracy.

Nothing I have seen or read about JFK's murder points to conspiracy.

Oh dear. I'll assume that's a joke. If not, you can first watch the movie JFK to get an orientation, not that it's incredibly accurate. Then I would recommend you read some of the books I own:

"Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy" - One of the main sources for the movie JFK. Covers almost every aspect of the assassination.
"On the Trail of the Assassins" - Written by the DA who brought Clay Shaw to court in the assassination of JFK. Another source for the movie.
"The Great Zapruder Film Hoax" - Deals obviously with the Zapruder film, and brings in a variety of experts that analyze it.
"The Man Who Knew Too Much" - Covers a man connected to various intelligence agencies and his knowledge and vast amount of evidence he presents.
"Case Closed" - Actually one of the few books that tries to push that Oswald did it. It mainly covers his life background and time leading up.

Well Divito, you left out Jackie as a suspect.  She was in close proximity at the time and she had a good motive.

Oh, and you left out Oswald.

Why is it so hard to believe that Jackie had her husband killed?  CONNECT THE DOTS!

 

I'll assume the mockery means you believe in the magic bullet?

Quote from: sokarul on June 13, 2007, 04:54:24 PM

Quote from: divito on June 13, 2007, 03:08:16 PM

I've studied the assassination at length. There was definitely a cover-up, but as for if the government did it, it's still speculation.

You don't know that.  The guy that killed him was also killed, thus we will never now.

Its has been demonstrated at least twice that I know of, that 1 bullet could hit JFK in the neck and then hit the governor 3 times.  I’m sure you already knew that through your research and just omitted it because it didn’t fit your side. 

Ahaha. The guy that supposedly killed him was conveniently killed right after.

There were seven wounds on JFK and Connally. Simple angles and trajectories tell us that a single bullet could not do all this like the Warren Commission said.

They have repeated the shot.  One guy did it while it was windy and raining.  The other one was done with models with human bones in them.  They were also able to make the shot.  Some research you do.  I bet the books and movies you listed are from the same people that put out books and movies about the space hoax and 9/11.

Then there's the ruthless LBJ.  He had a good motive, too.

They have repeated the shot.  One guy did it while it was windy and raining.  The other one was done with models with human bones in them.  They were also able to make the shot.  Some research you do.  I bet the books and movies you listed are from the same people that put out books and movies about the space hoax and 9/11.

I've read about the Discovery Channel's reenactment, so you can keep insulting my research if you want. That reenactment doesn't explain the entirety of the conspiracy theory, nor the amount of evidence contained in the subsequent literature outside of the improbable travel path of the magic bullet.

And don't even think of listing JFK with the Moon landing and 9/11. They aren't even comparable.

And don't even think of listing JFK with the Moon landing and 9/11. They aren't even comparable.

They are in my book.  They were all brought on by people fearing what they don't understand. 

True, conspiracy theories arise from mainly psychological factors.

But the JFK incident has much more weight and evidence than 9/11 or the Moon landing theories. It is also propagated through Watergate, a conspiracy that the education system actually acknowledges.

True, conspiracy theories arise from mainly psychological factors.

But the JFK incident has much more weight and evidence than 9/11 or the Moon landing theories. It is also propagated through Watergate, a conspiracy that the education system actually acknowledges.

Watergate wasn't a conspiracy, it was a scandle. 

G. Gordon Liddy....  he did it all. 

Watergate wasn't a conspiracy, it was a scandle. 

Yes, it was itself a scandal but there is a conspiracy surrounding it as well. It involves E Howard Hunt, his wife, and Charles Coulson and blackmail of the White House. Oswald also wrote a letter to Hunt prior to the assassination asking for a job in his organization. I'm not going to get into all of it because I don't want to type it all.

I have a big book of conspiracy theories, and the JFK one is the only one I actually believe. It has enough evidence to hold it's own, not to mention RFK. Oh well, we'll just have to wait until more documents are unclassified and available to read.

The Big Book of Conspiracy Theories

Can I buy it on Amazon?