sunsets?

i have been looking here for a while now, and i was wondering. in a flat earth where the sun is a disc, as are the other celestial bodies, how can it rise and fall? and then does the moon do the same thing?

The cause of sunrise and sunset is described in Chapter 9 of Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

The cause of the sun appearing larger when rising and setting than at noonday is described in Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe.

The cause of receding objects descending into the horizon after reaching the vanishing point is described in Chapter 14 of Earth Not a Globe.

The cause of sunrise and sunset is described in Chapter 9 of Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

The cause of the sun appearing larger when rising and setting than at noonday is described in Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe.

The cause of receding objects descending into the horizon after reaching the vanishing point is described in Chapter 14 of Earth Not a Globe.

You're new here and may not know, but Tom Bishop is irrelevant. Don't worry much about his replies. Everything that he's just argued above has been rebuffed several time. You might want to try reading more threads and see how this question has played out before. In particular, the thread about perspective is very well presented by REers.

thanks gulliver, i have been looking at the forum for a while and i know that everything he says has been shot down a dozen times. and also, perspective will happen in both a round and flat earth, so it has ne relevence here, and also, the sun doesnt get smaller, it just vanishes below the horizon. either this is because it gets to a certain point and then flies away at the speed of light, or, maybe, just maybe, it disapears beehind the curvature of the earth

the sun doesnt get smaller, it just vanishes below the horizon

The sun actually changes size wildly as it approaches the horizon. Consult Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe.

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the sun doesnt get smaller, it just vanishes below the horizon

The sun actually changes size wildly as it approaches the horizon. Consult Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe.

Nope. You can see it for yourself at sunset tonight. Remember to take your thumb along.

i have seen the sun loads, now the wuestion is, do you say that it appears to shrink or grow. in the link you gave me tom, the circles all look the same size to me. i have been looking at the sun for years and have noticed no changes in its size. also, in a RE, the reason why the sun looks different sizes at different times of the year is because it has an elliptical orbit, thus at times it is closer to the sun, i.e summer.

or does the government have a giant heater under the earths crust that they point at different continents at different times of the year? which they couldnt do as there is no crust so it would have to be under the earth, so a huge team of engineers would be needed who would all have to swear not to say anything.................anyway, that bit was sort of a joke that i took too far

Nice link, I now understand how FE'ers explain atmospheric refraction. But at a fixed point above the earth (3000 miles, right?), the sun will never ever get close to the horizon. I'm sure this has been more clearly debated in another thread, so I'll leave it alone.

i have been looking here for a while now, and i was wondering. in a flat earth where the sun is a disc, as are the other celestial bodies, how can it rise and fall? and then does the moon do the same thing?

The sun isn't a disc....where did you come up with that?

The cause of sunrise and sunset is described in Chapter 9 of Earth Not a Globe by Dr. Samuel Birley Rowbotham.

The cause of the sun appearing larger when rising and setting than at noonday is described in Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe.

The cause of receding objects descending into the horizon after reaching the vanishing point is described in Chapter 14 of Earth Not a Globe.

I read the question and knew the links would be here.

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the sun doesnt get smaller, it just vanishes below the horizon

The sun actually changes size wildly as it approaches the horizon. Consult Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe.

Hahaha...I actually checked this one and LMAO.

He thinks that the sun projetcs on the atmosphere...on a  transprarent medium...but ok, even if that was true, the sun would not apear larger! Altrough its projection (LMAO again) is larger you are looking it at na angle...and thus appears smaller. It is the viewing angle that defines how big things seem. So a FE sun would become smaller with distance.

Don't belive me...Take a piece of paper...if you level it correctly you will see nothing but a line no matter how big the sheet is.

A wrong assumption with wrong results...pathetic.

Don't be silly, Tom never knows when he's beat and he'll never surrender.

He's the Jean-Claude Van Damm of FES.

He thinks that the sun projetcs on the atmosphere...on a  transprarent medium

Have you never seen a city street lamp at night?

Have you never seen a Psychiatrist?

i have,plenty of times. and if its further away it appears smaller, as do all things, but a street light and the sun are two completely different things. to make a lamp look half its size, step back maybe 15 metres, to make the sun look half its size, you would have to go back lightyears!

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He thinks that the sun projetcs on the atmosphere...on a  transprarent medium

Have you never seen a city street lamp at night?

Totaly irrelevant...He talks about a lightsource outside the athmosphere projecting on a transparent medium...and you...well I don't really know what the hell are you talkling about.

But, as I said before, even if there was a projection you would still be in trouble, because the viewing angle would still get smaller. Check Chapter 10 of Earth Not a Globe.

yeah, what he said