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Amroth

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1980's satellite pictures
« on: May 03, 2007, 01:12:26 PM »
Look so funny... I am not sure if it was just the technology or what but they sure do look much different and, dare I say it, fake! Some pictures will be on their way (if I can find some)

It was in a video from school today.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2007, 01:13:23 PM »
Quote from: Amroth on May 03, 2007, 01:12:26 PM
Look so funny... I am not sure if it was just the technology or what but they sure do look much different and, dare I say it, fake! Some pictures will be on their way (if I can find some)

It was in a video from school today.
It was the technology.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 01:15:49 PM »
I think it was too. But I actually just thought of this website when I saw it and laughed because Tom's face jumped into my head.  :-\ Not sure if that's bad or not.  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 01:17:03 PM »
So long as his face isn't jumping into your head all the time, especially at certain "moments"
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 07:14:04 PM »
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It was the technology.

Technology?

Cameras in the 1980's were just as good as cameras are today. Same resolution, same quality. There should be no difference.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 07:23:36 PM »
http://observe.arc.nasa.gov/nasa/core.shtml.html
This should lead to a NASA image gallery. Look at the [sarcasm]high quality[/sarcasm] of Pluto on the Hubble scope. The fancy one is labeled as an artist's rendering. If we can't get a good picture of Pluto(in our own solar system), it should be obvious that most of the fancy pictures on the discovery channel(in other solar systems) are computer generated. NASA has the technology to do that. How much harder would it be to generate a round earth photo?

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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2007, 02:19:24 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 03, 2007, 07:14:04 PM
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It was the technology.

Technology?

Cameras in the 1980's were just as good as cameras are today. Same resolution, same quality. There should be no difference.
Are you retarded? 
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2007, 02:36:23 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on May 04, 2007, 02:19:24 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 03, 2007, 07:14:04 PM
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It was the technology.

Technology?

Cameras in the 1980's were just as good as cameras are today. Same resolution, same quality. There should be no difference.
Are you retarded? 

Tom doesn't do digital.  :D
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2007, 02:50:12 AM »
Apparently.  I'm sure all the spacecrafts sent back the film via mail. 
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2007, 05:41:18 AM »
The best picture of Pluto is a very, very pixelated brown circle with some dark spots.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2007, 05:47:09 AM »
Quote from: Mr. Ireland on May 04, 2007, 05:41:18 AM
The best picture of Pluto is a very, very pixelated brown circle with some dark spots.

Which is why I was surprised whenI saw the crystal-clear pics of Gliese 281 or whatever...until i found out that was an artist's impression. :(
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2007, 06:09:41 AM »
Most NASA images are lebeled as artists impressions.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2007, 06:12:51 AM »
Hey Irelan San? I always forget if you're a FE or REer

And I think 'most' is a bit of an exaggeration
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2007, 06:25:44 AM »
Most of the ones people like then  :D
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2007, 10:32:34 AM »
Quote from: sokarul on May 04, 2007, 02:19:24 AM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 03, 2007, 07:14:04 PM
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It was the technology.

Technology?

Cameras in the 1980's were just as good as cameras are today. Same resolution, same quality. There should be no difference.
Are you retarded? 

I think Toms IQ just dropped from 0 to -2
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2007, 12:04:55 PM »
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Are you retarded?

The digital camera was not invented until the 90's. Obviously the camera on this alleged 80's satellite would have been using analog capture and broadcasting methods. By the 1980's analog capture and broadcasting technologies were very mature.

Image broadcasting technology has been around since the 1920's. Do you think it was impossible to broadcast a quality image in the 1980's or something?  ::)
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2007, 01:54:58 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 04, 2007, 12:04:55 PM
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Are you retarded?

The digital camera was not invented until the 90's. Obviously the camera on this alleged 80's satellite would have been using analog capture and broadcasting methods. By the 1980's analog capture and broadcasting technologies were very mature.

Image broadcasting technology has been around since the 1920's. Do you think it was impossible to broadcast a quality image in the 1980's or something?  ::)

You said the quality of a picture from the 80's is the same as the quality of a picture from today. Maybe you just want to sound convincing so that people can believe you, but people ain't that stupid.

But if you truly believe what you're saying, check this out:

http://www.jamiethompson.net/jack_carlson.htm

A picture of the same man, one from 1980, the other from 2005. Same quality? I don't think so, Tom.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2007, 02:17:17 PM »
- That is a blurry out of focus shot.

- That is not a picture from the 1980's It seems to be an image taken in the 1960's. Humans don't age that fast.

- NASA's Voyager project in the 70's could allegedly produce and broadcast excellent analog images to the earth from many millions of miles away. Was that technology lost sometime between the 70's and 80's?  ::)
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2007, 02:23:34 PM »
Tom: [Unfounded assertion]
Normal Person: [Contradictory evidence]
Tom: Your evidence is fake because [crappy reasons/baseless assumptions]

Sharp as a tack, as ever Mr Bishop.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2007, 03:35:19 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 04, 2007, 02:17:17 PM

- That is not a picture from the 1980's It seems to be an image taken in the 1960's. Humans don't age that fast.


Ok lets say that that is true.

A picture of a car taken in 1980:

http://www.dippy.org/photo/psib/psib004.jpg

A picture of cars from 2007:

http://blogs.cars.com/photos/uncategorized/2007hondas.jpg


The quality of the pictures just isn't the same. It isn't.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2007, 08:10:35 AM »
Are you kidding me? You are comparing the quality of cheap throwaway cameras with professional cameras! Professional cameras have been able to take stunningly sharp high resolution pictures since photography itself was invented.

Here are the Voyager images allegedly taken with 70's technology:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/image/index.html

Clearly, the resolution and quality is superb. There is no reason why a billion dollar satellite built in the 1980's should have a cheap camera mounted onto it.

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If you are still not satisfied, go to the Wikipedia page on Color Photography and notice the stunning quality and sharpness of images taken in the first decade of the 1900's when color photography was invented.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2007, 12:24:24 PM »
So the camera tehnology hasn't changed one bit in the past 30 years?
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2007, 08:48:04 PM »
The only thing that has changed is the quality of disposable and consumer cameras. Professional photography equipment hasn't gotten any better.

Lenses were invented in the 1600's. The lens reached maturity long ago. Film reached maturity in the 1930's.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2007, 08:14:02 PM »
I MUST find those pictures... i'll get right on it when my internet is back on... this library blocks google.... so now it's closed and i must leave...
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2007, 10:47:58 PM »
Yes, please do. I look forward to viewing these satellite images from the 80's.

I'm still awestruck by the quality of this color photograph taken in 1909: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Prokudin-Gorskii-12.jpg

The full size version has better resolution than most digital cameras today. Isn't it amazing?
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2007, 10:59:03 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 07, 2007, 10:47:58 PM
Yes, please do. I look forward to viewing these satellite images from the 80's.

I'm still awestruck by the quality of this color photograph taken in 1909: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Prokudin-Gorskii-12.jpg

The full size version has better resolution than most digital cameras today. Isn't it amazing?
Its common knowledge that film was better then most digital cameras.  Now of course, film is not. 
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2007, 03:19:00 AM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on May 05, 2007, 08:10:35 AM
Are you kidding me? You are comparing the quality of cheap throwaway cameras with professional cameras! Professional cameras have been able to take stunningly sharp high resolution pictures since photography itself was invented.

Here are the Voyager images allegedly taken with 70's technology:

http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/image/index.html

Clearly, the resolution and quality is superb. There is no reason why a billion dollar satellite built in the 1980's should have a cheap camera mounted onto it.

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If you are still not satisfied, go to the Wikipedia page on Color Photography and notice the stunning quality and sharpness of images taken in the first decade of the 1900's when color photography was invented.

So, Mr.Bishop, what you are implicitly saying is that there was a probe called Voyager and it photographed Jupiter.
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2007, 05:03:54 AM »
no,
hence the "allegedly"
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2007, 05:27:20 AM »
So, where did the photos come from?
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Re: 1980's satellite pictures
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2007, 09:12:49 AM »
Quote from: Bushido on May 08, 2007, 05:27:20 AM
So, where did the photos come from?

NASA rendered the images in the same fashion as the alien planets were rendered in the original 1960's Star Trek. Trivial stuff, really.
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