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Re: Science
« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2007, 03:33:09 PM »
Well, in all honesty, Truthseeker, I'm sure you're a heckuva nice guy, but I think you're looney tunes if you think the earth is flat.   :)

Well, at least you're a nice guy.  I used to be like you once, but then I saw the truth.  It's okay, you'll get to where I am some day.  Hopefully, I can be of some help to you.

Seriously, if I was a round earth theorist who was open minded enough to consider other theories, I would be so threatened by this person who calls himself "sanity" (ha!).  The minute you cross over, they are going to blast you away and make fun of your intelligence.  That's the best these guys can do.

Not only have you contradicted simple logic, you have also contradicted yourself. 

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=12908.0

"never believed that the world was round in school"

So you were once like us - believing that the Earth is round - but at the same time, you never believed that the Earth was round. That makes sense to you?

Oh come on... haven't you gone along with something that someone said even though you didn't quite believe it and later on realized that it was complete nonsense?  That's what I'm talking about.  I "believed" in it, but not with all my heart.  Something was fishy about it from the get go.  And now I'm convinced.

I suspect somewhere in you there is a voice that is wondering whether mankind has been duped into believing all this rubbish that the government has crammed down our throats.  I'm telling you, the truth will set you free.

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« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2007, 03:38:01 PM »
Free to deny.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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Re: Science
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2007, 03:45:15 PM »
My government isn't the same as your government :) so I may have been throat-crammed something entirely different. We British think the Earth is spherical, but hollow with little bunnies living on the inside. It's all a conspiracy you see...trillions and trillions of pounds....
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« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2007, 03:46:20 PM »
Gin, you are officially awesome
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« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2007, 03:47:26 PM »
My government isn't the same as your government :) so I may have been throat-crammed something entirely different. We British think the Earth is spherical, but hollow with little bunnies living on the inside. It's all a conspiracy you see...trillions and trillions of pounds....

Awwwwwwww!  What a cute theory!  That's a theory I can get behind.  :)
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things! :)

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Re: Science
« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2007, 03:52:06 PM »
Be careful not to dogmatically accept it! There are, however, proofs of its truth. Here is one that broke through the surface:

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« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2007, 04:01:02 PM »
My government isn't the same as your government :) so I may have been throat-crammed something entirely different. We British think the Earth is spherical, but hollow with little bunnies living on the inside. It's all a conspiracy you see...trillions and trillions of pounds....

I actually believe in the hollow earth theory too, but I also believe in the flat earth theory.  I think these two theories need to be reconciled.  Let me post about this in another thread.

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« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2007, 04:01:58 PM »
A hollow, flat earth...yes I'm following this....
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« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2007, 04:06:51 PM »
Nice one TruthTOMBISHOPSeeker. I'd love to read that post, and the evidence for it.
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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2007, 04:10:28 PM »
Real subtle Ginnyboy
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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2007, 04:12:25 PM »
Well, in all honesty, Truthseeker, I'm sure you're a heckuva nice guy, but I think you're looney tunes if you think the earth is flat.   :)

Well, at least you're a nice guy.  I used to be like you once, but then I saw the truth.  It's okay, you'll get to where I am some day.  Hopefully, I can be of some help to you.

Seriously, if I was a round earth theorist who was open minded enough to consider other theories, I would be so threatened by this person who calls himself "sanity" (ha!).  The minute you cross over, they are going to blast you away and make fun of your intelligence.  That's the best these guys can do.

Not only have you contradicted simple logic, you have also contradicted yourself. 

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=12908.0

"never believed that the world was round in school"

So you were once like us - believing that the Earth is round - but at the same time, you never believed that the Earth was round. That makes sense to you?

Oh come on... haven't you gone along with something that someone said even though you didn't quite believe it and later on realized that it was complete nonsense?  That's what I'm talking about.  I "believed" in it, but not with all my heart.  Something was fishy about it from the get go.  And now I'm convinced.

I suspect somewhere in you there is a voice that is wondering whether mankind has been duped into believing all this rubbish that the government has crammed down our throats.  I'm telling you, the truth will set you free.

I suspect that you genuinely believe you know me better than I do.  But you don't.  I don't even like the government, and I have several conspiracy theories of my own.  I don't dogmatically believe anything.  This one is just too far-fetched for my taste.
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Re: Science
« Reply #71 on: April 26, 2007, 10:21:23 AM »
My government isn't the same as your government :) so I may have been throat-crammed something entirely different. We British think the Earth is spherical, but hollow with little bunnies living on the inside. It's all a conspiracy you see...trillions and trillions of pounds....

I actually believe in the hollow earth theory too, but I also believe in the flat earth theory.  I think these two theories need to be reconciled.  Let me post about this in another thread.

A hollow Earth? Please just wait while I get something that disproves this (this is helping both the sane - most REers - and the insane - the FEers - since they claim that we get out heat from the Earth's core. Why you believe it I dunno, but hey)...

Here we go:

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Re: Science
« Reply #72 on: April 26, 2007, 04:58:25 PM »
taking a picture of the beach will not show a good image of the curve of the earth because you will be too close, it is the same idea that if ou put your nose right up against a wall it would seem that it goes on forever but if someone was standing 5ft away from the wall they would be able to see that the wall ended.
Only 2 things are infinite the universe and human stupidity, but I am not sure about the former.

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Re: Science
« Reply #73 on: April 26, 2007, 07:50:02 PM »
Notice how the airplanes are not bent, meaning no screwed up lens was used.

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« Reply #74 on: April 26, 2007, 07:55:01 PM »
Can you get the original pic as well? The lines are really bothering me.
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Re: Science
« Reply #75 on: April 26, 2007, 08:07:05 PM »
Sorry

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Re: Science
« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2007, 08:47:17 PM »
My government isn't the same as your government :) so I may have been throat-crammed something entirely different. We British think the Earth is spherical, but hollow with little bunnies living on the inside. It's all a conspiracy you see...trillions and trillions of pounds....

I don't have a government anymore.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2007, 09:03:04 PM »
1.) It's well known that ambiguous curvature on a RE wouldn't be apparent until 60,000 feet in altitude.

2.) A wide angle lens can produce a curvature of field effect. As could Snell's law and the sphere of vision effect.

3.) That horizon is much too foggy to discern any sort of curvature.

4.) I've been to 45,000 feet on an international flight and found no curvature when comparing the horizon with a straight edge. Neither could the passengers around me.

5.) We have a pilot on this forum who says he has never seen curvature.

6.) Photographs are not admissible as evidence on this forum.

Yadda yadda, et cetera.
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« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2007, 09:28:56 PM »
Neither is your comb over
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

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« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2007, 10:33:49 PM »
Notice how the airplanes are not bent, meaning no screwed up lens was used.

From that pic, the earth is neither flat nor round. The earth is hazy. That's a completely different shape. Anyhow, 2 comments
- if I took a picture of a mine pit, would it prove that the earth is concave ?
- The flat earth ppl don`t actually believe that the earth is flat (as in 2d), just that it`s not a ball. Which means that it could be convex (or tea pot shaped). They don`t specify.

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« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2007, 11:08:13 PM »
- The flat earth ppl don`t actually believe that the earth is flat (as in 2d), just that it`s not a ball. Which means that it could be convex (or tea pot shaped). They don`t specify.

This is not strictly true.  The FEers base much of their belief on supposed experiments proving the general surface of the earth - measured on the water so as to avoid the problem of irregular landmasses - to not have any curvature.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2007, 11:17:07 PM »
seems a bit hard to measure. Where did they get the ruler ? staples ?

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« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2007, 11:58:04 PM »
No.  Read Earth Not a Globe if you're really interested.  The experiments were refuted at the time anyway, although one imagines they will call this the work of the Conspiracy.
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« Reply #83 on: April 27, 2007, 01:59:31 PM »
1.) It's well known that ambiguous curvature on a RE wouldn't be apparent until 60,000 feet in altitude.
"Well known"? It's already been established on these forums that popularity!=truth (popularity does not equal truth, for the nonprogrammers :D). Besides, it can't be that well known, because most of the REers on these boards say otherwise.

2.) A wide angle lens can produce a curvature of field effect. As could Snell's law and the sphere of vision effect.
Which would also distort the plane.

3.) That horizon is much too foggy to discern any sort of curvature.
I'll admit, this picture can be ambiguous.

4.) I've been to 45,000 feet on an international flight and found no curvature when comparing the horizon with a straight edge. Neither could the passengers around me.
Of course you wouldn't. You just said there wouldn't be any apparent curvature until 60,000 ft! What happened to the fisheye lenses in the windows, Tom? Is the conspiracy really that hit-and-miss?

5.) We have a pilot on this forum who says he has never seen curvature.
So we have one person's word that there is no curvature. Correction: that he has not seen curvature. What happened to all of the phenomena that you just threw at us? Is nature as inconsistent as the conspiracy apparently is?

6.) Photographs are not admissible as evidence on this forum.
Unless they could prove an FE.
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