Earth From Space

One of the strongest points of evidence of the earth as an oblete spheroid is countless images of it from space/very high altitides.
and all you can say is they're photoshoped and part of the conspiracy

pathetic

What's an "oblete spheroid"?

The reason why the earth looks round from very high altitudes is because of Snell's Law. I'm sure you have seen that when you put a pencil halfway in a glass of water, it appears to be broken. This is because water is more denser than air and light rays bend when the density and temperature of the medium changes. This is known as the Snell Law.

Have you ever seen the outside temperature readings on an airplanes' info channel? It goes all the way down to a few degrees, because atmosphere gets much colder as you ascend. When one is looking down from a high altitude to the surface of the earth they are looking through an atmosphere that gets warmer and denser as it descends. This causes light rays from the earth to bend and makes the surface look curved - just like the pencil in the water getting broken. It's not a sharp break as in the pencil example but a smooth curve, because the temperature and density changes gradually, not suddenly.

When I get a chance I'll draw a diagram for visual effect.

The reason why the earth looks round from very high altitudes is because of Snell's Law. I'm sure you have seen that when you put a pencil halfway in a glass of water, it appears to be broken. This is because water is more denser than air and light rays bend when the density and temperature of the medium changes. This is known as the Snell Law.

Have you ever seen the outside temperature readings on an airplanes' info channel? It goes all the way down to a few degrees, because atmosphere gets much colder as you ascend. When one is looking down from a high altitude to the surface of the earth they are looking through an atmosphere that gets warmer and denser as it descends. This causes light rays from the earth to bend and makes the surface look curved - just like the pencil in the water getting broken. It's not a sharp break as in the pencil example but a smooth curve, because the temperature and density changes gradually, not suddenly.

When I get a chance I'll draw a diagram for visual effect.

That still doesn't account for seeing only one side of the planet. And we're not talking about high altitudes, we're talking about space.

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Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 05:32:48 PM

The reason why the earth looks round from very high altitudes is because of Snell's Law. I'm sure you have seen that when you put a pencil halfway in a glass of water, it appears to be broken. This is because water is more denser than air and light rays bend when the density and temperature of the medium changes. This is known as the Snell Law.

Have you ever seen the outside temperature readings on an airplanes' info channel? It goes all the way down to a few degrees, because atmosphere gets much colder as you ascend. When one is looking down from a high altitude to the surface of the earth they are looking through an atmosphere that gets warmer and denser as it descends. This causes light rays from the earth to bend and makes the surface look curved - just like the pencil in the water getting broken. It's not a sharp break as in the pencil example but a smooth curve, because the temperature and density changes gradually, not suddenly.

When I get a chance I'll draw a diagram for visual effect.

That still doesn't account for seeing only one side of the planet. And we're not talking about high altitudes, we're talking about space.

How much of Earth is in daylight at one time (in either model)? 

roughly half id say... depending on what you count for daylight

Just a little over half in RE, as the sun is a lot bigger than the earth so will shine 'around the sides' a bit, even from its great distance. In FE the sun would need to cover a similar amount to preserve the correct day and night we observe in different parts of the world. If the sun is indeed a spotlight as they say, it would need to cover half the earth's area...meaning the diameter of the spotlit area would be 1/root2 of the flat disc earths diameter..... so about 70%...wait...a diagram is needed....



as you can see this would lead to most countries being in in daytime at once, even though only half the area is illuminated.... and the north pole would be in constant daylight...it's almost as if the FE model is inconsistent and nonsensical!

...it's almost as if the FE model is inconsistent and nonsensical!

WHAT! A flat earth inconsistent and nonsensical!? You're kidding!!!!!! [/sarcasm]

I assure you I am deadly serious! [/majorsarcasm]

The reason why the earth looks round from very high altitudes is because of Snell's Law. I'm sure you have seen that when you put a pencil halfway in a glass of water, it appears to be broken. This is because water is more denser than air and light rays bend when the density and temperature of the medium changes. This is known as the Snell Law.

That was actually interesting, Tom. 

Just a little over half in RE, as the sun is a lot bigger than the earth so will shine 'around the sides' a bit, even from its great distance. In FE the sun would need to cover a similar amount to preserve the correct day and night we observe in different parts of the world. If the sun is indeed a spotlight as they say, it would need to cover half the earth's area...meaning the diameter of the spotlit area would be 1/root2 of the flat disc earths diameter..... so about 70%...wait...a diagram is needed....



as you can see this would lead to most countries being in in daytime at once, even though only half the area is illuminated.... and the north pole would be in constant daylight...it's almost as if the FE model is inconsistent and nonsensical!

wow even more proof ^^

edit: although i guess the sun could illuminate half of that at any given time

edit again: and it still would be proof haha ^^

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Rebutt!!!!!

so far this has got to be the best "proof" ive seen on this site. easy to understand and non-rebukable

as you can see this would lead to most countries being in in daytime at once, even though only half the area is illuminated.... and the north pole would be in constant daylight...it's almost as if the FE model is inconsistent and nonsensical!

Well no. Take into account that less light from the spotlight would reach the edges of the illuminated section. Why would the laws of physics suddenly break and allow a complete blanket distribution of light like that?

Yes, it's true that a large portion of the globe is PARTIALLY illuminated at one time - take note that it doesn't suddenly get dark or light in an instant - dusk and dawn account for the outer reaches of the spotlight's illumination.

look at the pic. no matter how dim the light is on the edges it would never line up correctly with the actuall timezones.

look at the pic. no matter how dim the light is on the edges it would never line up correctly with the actuall timezones.

So how does it work on a Round Earth?

oh come on 

i think this is a good topic, and the big Fe'ers on the board to get in here and debate it. where is tom, narc, and the engineer??

Speaking of earth from space, The sweet band "Rise Against" has video of the round earth in the beginning of there video “Ready to fall”.  The rest of the video is kinda disturbing. 
A show I saw yesterday was Modern Marvels Insulation.  They talked about the insulation on the space station and showed some sweet space walk video.  It would be almost impossible to fake a spacewalk with such a wide angle shown.   

i think this is a good topic, and the big Fe'ers on the board to get in here and debate it. where is tom, narc, and the engineer??

It's been done before, actually.  By myself and half a dozen others too, I'm sure.   

i think this is a good topic, and the big Fe'ers on the board to get in here and debate it. where is tom, narc, and the engineer??

Oh god what? Narcberry IS NOT a Flat Earther.

I beg to differ.

Shut up, MaKinzeeee.

The reason why the earth looks round from very high altitudes is because of Snell's Law. I'm sure you have seen that when you put a pencil halfway in a glass of water, it appears to be broken. This is because water is more denser than air and light rays bend when the density and temperature of the medium changes. This is known as the Snell Law.

Have you ever seen the outside temperature readings on an airplanes' info channel? It goes all the way down to a few degrees, because atmosphere gets much colder as you ascend. When one is looking down from a high altitude to the surface of the earth they are looking through an atmosphere that gets warmer and denser as it descends. This causes light rays from the earth to bend and makes the surface look curved - just like the pencil in the water getting broken. It's not a sharp break as in the pencil example but a smooth curve, because the temperature and density changes gradually, not suddenly.

When I get a chance I'll draw a diagram for visual effect.

Hahaha. Too bad Snell's law only applies to isotropic or specular media such as air to glass. Gradual refraction, by definition, can't be applied. 
By isotropic, I mean being independent of direction. The opposite would be anisotropic which can be seen as light enters the media of some crystals splitting the light rays by birefringence.

I guess I'll put this question here, since it deals with the Earth from space:

How do you Flat Earthers explain satellite pictures when it comes to weather events. It's kind of hard to fake a live image, especially one that can be used to predict that a certain storm will hit a certain city before it happens.

And as for your fake space program theory.....what about the rockets/shuttles they launch? 

How do you Flat Earthers explain satellite pictures when it comes to weather events.It's kind of hard to fake a live image, especially one that can be used to predict that a certain storm will hit a certain city before it happens.

How do high altitude cameras looking straight down at the Earth disprove FE?

And as for your fake space program theory.....what about the rockets/shuttles they launch?

Obviously they are sending something up. Whether or not the rockets reach orbit is a matter of opinion.

how do these "high altitude cameras" stay up there?

More importantly, they'd have to be pretty high to capture the images they do...so high they'd have to be...IN SPACE!

Like, orbiting the round earth or something....

how do these "high altitude cameras" stay up there?

A layer of dark energy inversely proportional to the gravitation of the earth, perhaps.

By necessity, this would take the form of a dynamic field whose energy density can vary in time and space. The quintessence model of Dark Energy would nicely fill in the effect. This could also explain why the sun and moon do not crash into the Earth.