Magnetic field

I come to think of one thing. A magnetic field can only exist by a big strong magnetic ball inside the earth. But if the earth is flat the ball must be very small. We know the magnetic field (the athmosphere) is about 6-10 times bigger than the ball so if the earth is round the magnetic field is :



And if it would be flat :


(sry, I don't draw so good)

We know the core must be round or else the magnetic field may don't work. The core is much smaller than the land mass. So whitout this field we sholdn't have no air and asteroids can every moment kill us. there should not even be gravity. I know I'm right cuz my teacher said this and I dont think this is a stupid conspiracy. There is about 10000000000000000000000 pictures about the earth is round and no one in the world could ever edit that many photos. So don't make the childs and other stupid people belive in this flat earth theory. It's nearly the same as the forum I found a few year ago. They thought the universe was a big pc game like the sims and simcity. Stupid ******* FE theory.

Prepare to be owned.  I'm sure the FE'ers will have a great explanation for this, so don't get your hopes up.

know. this site is so phatetic. When I told my friend and my teacher they nearly exploded of laughts. ( I can't wait to get a answer from a mod or better, TOM BISHOP)

I exploded in laughts once....that wasn't pretty.

This site isn't THAT funny.

This site isn't THAT funny.

Seconded that one. but I must admit, some of you FE dimwits are truly funny. It's not the site.

I think this site is hilarious

Except for right now when no one is about

I was going to attempt to draw that pic.  Glad you did it first HAHALOL. 

I was going to attempt to draw that pic.  Glad you did it first HAHALOL. 

thx.

See! no one knows the answer for that. gotcha.

It is easy to lie when you use hastily drawn pics that don't even represent flat Earth design. The Earth does not resemble a peice of paper, what idiot told you that? The Earth is actually cylindrical in shape, no one really knows how far down it extends. Maybe you should actually do some searching before you start trying to disprove science with your unintelligent opinions. I think this is a more fair representation of the Earth if I do say so myself (better drawn too). Sorry about scan quality, it is an old scanner. (If you higlight it, it pick up more detail.)

Once again compasses align to the magnetic fields, not point at them.  At the icewalls a compass wouldn't work unless held vertically.

That's a great picture, Tripple Bracket. It's exactly how magnetism on a Flat Earth might look.

Once again compasses align to the magnetic fields, not point at them.  At the icewalls a compass wouldn't work unless held vertically.

Compasses attempt to align themselves with magnetic fields. Since there is a pin in the middle of the compass, it can only move in two dimensions.

If you think the compass should attempt to align itself with the Core on a Flat Earth, then on a Round Earth shouldn't the compass attempt to align itself with the Core as well? Using your logic, shouldn't a compass in Canada attempt to point up in the air at an angle, aligning itself with the magnetic fields of the Round Earth?

Compasses attempt to align themselves with magnetic fields. Since there is a pin in the middle of the compass, it can only move in two dimensions.

If you think the compass should attempt to align itself with the Core on a Flat Earth, then on a Round Earth shouldn't the compass attempt to align itself with the Core as well? Shouldn't a compass in Canada attempt to point up in the air?

Um, why would it attempt to point up in the air in Canada? If anything, you're closer to the North Pole, therefore, the needles tries to bury itself in the bottom of your compass. Come to Canada and try it... wait, on second thought, don't come to Canada, we don't want you here.

Compasses attempt to align themselves with magnetic fields. Since there is a pin in the middle of the compass, it can only move in two dimensions.

You are right it can only move in to dimensions.  Thats why the compass would have to be held vertically.  

If you think the compass should attempt to align itself with the Core on a Flat Earth, then on a Round Earth shouldn't the compass attempt to align itself with the Core as well? Shouldn't a compass in Canada attempt to point up in the air?

No the compass aligns itself to the magnetic field.  Those field lines follow the surface of the earth as the drawing shows.  

It is easy to lie when you use hastily drawn pics that don't even represent flat Earth design. The Earth does not resemble a peice of paper, what idiot told you that? The Earth is actually cylindrical in shape, no one really knows how far down it extends. Maybe you should actually do some searching before you start trying to disprove science with your unintelligent opinions. I think this is a more fair representation of the Earth if I do say so myself (better drawn too). Sorry about scan quality, it is an old scanner. (If you higlight it, it pick up more detail.)

So the Earth is shaped like Dolly Parton's brassiere?

Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 11:40:11 AM

If you think the compass should attempt to align itself with the Core on a Flat Earth, then on a Round Earth shouldn't the compass attempt to align itself with the Core as well? Shouldn't a compass in Canada attempt to point up in the air?

No the compass aligns itself to the magnetic field.  Those field lines follow the surface of the earth as the drawing shows. 

Magnetic field lines do not follow the surface of the Earth.  Tom is right. 

Few more things:

I come to think of one thing. A magnetic field can only exist by a big strong magnetic ball inside the earth. But if the earth is flat the ball must be very small. We know the magnetic field (the athmosphere) is about 6-10 times bigger than the ball so if the earth is round the magnetic field is <snipped>

Why does it have to be a ball?  I have seen bar magnets, disk, cylindrical, toroid, et cetera.  These are not balls yet they still produce a magnetic field.  The Earth's magnetic field is created by a ball iff the Earth is a ball, but that doesn't really help with a discussion of the Flat Earth, does it? 

We know the core must be round or else the magnetic field may don't work. The core is much smaller than the land mass. So whitout this field we sholdn't have no air and asteroids can every moment kill us. there should not even be gravity. I know I'm right cuz my teacher said this and I dont think this is a stupid conspiracy. There is about 10000000000000000000000 pictures about the earth is round and no one in the world could ever edit that many photos. So don't make the childs and other stupid people belive in this flat earth theory. It's nearly the same as the forum I found a few year ago. They thought the universe was a big pc game like the sims and simcity. Stupid ******* FE theory.

Why do we know the core must be round?  Again, is it because you believe the Earth is round? 

Very little of what you said is legible. 

Why do we know the core must be round?  Again, is it because you believe the Earth is round? 

I thought the same thing when I logged off the forum.  But if it weren't round, would the magnetism be the same as if it were round?

Quote from: EvilToothpaste on April 10, 2007, 12:33:37 PM

Why do we know the core must be round?  Again, is it because you believe the Earth is round? 

I thought the same thing when I logged off the forum.  But if it weren't round, would the magnetism be the same as if it were round?

I would not be the same near the surface of the magnet, but at significant distances they would be nearly indistinguishable, as long as the magnetic flux is equal for each magnet. 

Quote from: sokarul on April 10, 2007, 11:44:33 AM

Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 10, 2007, 11:40:11 AM

If you think the compass should attempt to align itself with the Core on a Flat Earth, then on a Round Earth shouldn't the compass attempt to align itself with the Core as well? Shouldn't a compass in Canada attempt to point up in the air?

No the compass aligns itself to the magnetic field.  Those field lines follow the surface of the earth as the drawing shows. 

Magnetic field lines do not follow the surface of the Earth.  Tom is right. 

Sorry they really do. 

The OP pic is right. 

Are you suggesting the Earth's magnetic field is created by a bar magnet?  I'm sure you're not, so why don't you draw in where you think the Earth's surface is in that picture and then describe how closely the field lines are following said surface. 

Like his picture already showed. Some fields lay right on the surface and some dont. 


That way if you are going perfectly north your compass wont move.  Unlike the flat earth drawing where the field lines change 180 degrees while going stright north. 

Once again the FE'rs have come up with a disproving theory.....for one.......you said the earth is flagt yet you draw it not being flat.....something flat is where's it's 2-D if the earth is 2-D then that means i could drill through it with the right equipmwnr but then you say that it goes everlasting then what about the other planets.....wouldn't they have cylinders too? also if everything moved at the same m.p.h. or whatver your using then how did the asteroids hit the earth...annnd what about jupiter i've SEEN VIDEOS OF WHEN ASTEROIDS HIT IT THEY WAT THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY FROM IT THEN IT HIT IT ALSO THE STORM??? HAVE YOU NEVER SEEN THE STORM DISAPPEAR AND REAPPEAR GOOD GOSH YOU STUPID FE"rs!!!!

Once again the FE'rs have come up with a disproving theory.....for one.......you said the earth is flagt yet you draw it not being flat.....something flat is where's it's 2-D if the earth is 2-D then that means i could drill through it with the right equipmwnr but then you say that it goes everlasting then what about the other planets.....wouldn't they have cylinders too? also if everything moved at the same m.p.h. or whatver your using then how did the asteroids hit the earth...annnd what about jupiter i've SEEN VIDEOS OF WHEN ASTEROIDS HIT IT THEY WAT THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY FROM IT THEN IT HIT IT ALSO THE STORM??? HAVE YOU NEVER SEEN THE STORM DISAPPEAR AND REAPPEAR GOOD GOSH YOU STUPID FE"rs!!!!

I think this qualifies you for the "Dumbest Post of the Day" award.  Congratulations.

Quote from: Jasra18088 on April 10, 2007, 01:48:19 PM

Once again the FE'rs have come up with a disproving theory.....for one.......you said the earth is flagt yet you draw it not being flat.....something flat is where's it's 2-D if the earth is 2-D then that means i could drill through it with the right equipmwnr but then you say that it goes everlasting then what about the other planets.....wouldn't they have cylinders too? also if everything moved at the same m.p.h. or whatver your using then how did the asteroids hit the earth...annnd what about jupiter i've SEEN VIDEOS OF WHEN ASTEROIDS HIT IT THEY WAT THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY FROM IT THEN IT HIT IT ALSO THE STORM??? HAVE YOU NEVER SEEN THE STORM DISAPPEAR AND REAPPEAR GOOD GOSH YOU STUPID FE"rs!!!!

I think this qualifies you for the "Dumbest Post of the Day" award.  Congratulations.

Seconded.  Motion passed. 

Like his picture already showed. Some fields lay right on the surface and some dont. 

That way if you are going perfectly north your compass wont move.  Unlike the flat earth drawing where the field lines change 180 degrees while going stright north. 

Eh, sorry, the field lines change the exact same amount while traveling north on the FE surface as they do on the RE surface.  By 'change 180 degrees' I assume you mean from straight down to straight up, right?  How is that different than the RE model? 

No, they don't. There is no true pole at the south pole of a FE map. There is no single place for the magnetic field lines to converge. The magnetic field would be at it's weakest at the south pole on a FE map, when in reality it is at it's strongest there, stronger than the north pole.

Magnets with only one pole (monopole) do not exist. Magents with one 'north' pole and an infinite number of 'south' poles do not exist.

What is the thickness of the cylinder of the earth? and does it rotate on any specific axis?

So before you bash someone because they only spent five minutes making a picture for you guys (IE, wasting his time), get your own facts straight.

I await ANYONE's most reasoned response.

Get your facts straight, buddy.  I'm not bashing him because of his picture.  I never said a single derogatory statement. 

While most of what you said is absolutely true, little of it applies to the flat Earth model and even less has any relation to your first sentence (which I assume is referencing my response to Sokarul). 

There is no monopole and there is not an infinite number of south poles.  Also, the thickness of the FE no one knows for sure.  The south pole is not on the surface of the FE, but simply below it (as well as below the north magnetic pole).  Yes, the magnetic field is less dense in the south than in the RE model. 

The magnetic field would be at it's weakest at the south pole on a FE map, when in reality it is at it's strongest there, stronger than the north pole.

Another thing:  how can the south pole be stronger than the north pole?  That would mean the magnetic flux through the surface of a spherical Earth is non-zero and would be direct evidence for the existence of a magnetic monopole. 

Hmmm... my reply magically disappeared from the input box, all two pages of it, it's too early in the game to call it a conspiracy, but my eyes are open, lol.

I enjoy debate. And before I get to sounding like I am flaming you, I will argue any side at any time, at will. I already have a better FE explanation than you. I haven't learned all of the details of FE theory that you have, So mine may not be valid with all the details filled in.

"Little of it applies to the flat earth model"
Erm.... yeah, the FE model does not fit with repeatable observations, so the FE model does not apply.

I am still awaiting a thickness number, km or mi, doesn't matter. For my theory

The south pole is BARELY stronger than the north, but by a measurable amount. There is a reason that can be true, in RE theory. Ask me for details, but it is a fringe theory, and something that can not be proven right now. Hey, small world.....

Quote from: EIRD on April 10, 2007, 07:50:28 AM

This site isn't THAT funny.

Seconded that one. but I must admit, some of you FE dimwits are truly funny. It's not the site.

Hey you!  Remember this?  Wasn't beast's comment just hilarious?

Eh, sorry, the field lines change the exact same amount while traveling north on the FE surface as they do on the RE surface.  By 'change 180 degrees' I assume you mean from straight down to straight up, right?  How is that different than the RE model? 

The ones that change 180 degrees arnt the ones picked up by a compass on the RE.  On yours the compass would have to pick up the lines that would chaneg 180 as you travel since every line changes.  No magnetic single magnetic line can follow the surface.