Confused...

Hi all,

i heard about this place in a book called: "The book of General Ignorance", it corrects common myths. in the book it stated that medieval people never thought that the world was flat and that this flat world theory originated afterwards, it also said that there were still people who believed that the earth is flat, and gave a link.  I've read a few threads and they just seem to be arguments, so can you just clarify why you think that the world is flat? if this is a cover up who gains what?

http://i11.tinypic.com/2w2mzr5.png

this link was on another thread, what happens if you head south, off the map?

I am very skeptical, do your best to convince me otherwise.

Read the FAQ and Earth: Not a Globe.

• I don't trust everything I'm told. 
• Experiments in "Earth: Not a Globe" give evidence that the Earth is flat. 
• There must be a conspiracy since so many people believe the Earth is spherical

A handful of people have gone south in search of the edge of the Earth.  Most have not returned and the remaining never made it all the way.  Those that have not returned quite probably fell off the edge.

• There must be a conspiracy since so many people believe the Earth is spherical

So if most people believed in flat earth it would be a conspiracy?

• I don't trust everything I'm told. 

• Experiments in "Earth: Not a Globe" give evidence that the Earth is flat. 

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• There must be a conspiracy since so many people believe the Earth is spherical

A handful of people have gone south in search of the edge of the Earth.  Most have not returned and the remaining never made it all the way. 

Yet these experiments can't be duplicated.

Hi all,

i heard about this place in a book called: "The book of General Ignorance", it corrects common myths. in the book it stated that medieval people never thought that the world was flat and that this flat world theory originated afterwards, it also said that there were still people who believed that the earth is flat, and gave a link.  I've read a few threads and they just seem to be arguments, so can you just clarify why you think that the world is flat? if this is a cover up who gains what?

http://i11.tinypic.com/2w2mzr5.png

this link was on another thread, what happens if you head south, off the map?

I am very skeptical, do your best to convince me otherwise.

You should be skeptical.  They aren't the smartest on here.  They believe the Earth is flat based on a book that has so many errors its not even funny.   Not to mention they don't even understand the book.  If something doesn't fit there views it a government conspiracy.  If you go south there is an icewall but no one has ever seen it because its guarded 24/7.    So to sum it up, fe'ers (flat earth people) defy physics and logic.  On here you will find 2/3 posts are worthless because no one thinks the fe'ers are serious, although they claim they really do believe the earth is flat.  

So if most people believed in flat earth it would be a conspiracy?

In that case it would not be working quite as well as it does now. 

Yet these experiments can't be duplicated.

The experiments can all be easily duplicated, though most require travel to a specific location.  Have you attempted any of these experiments, or are you just assuming they are wrong because you believe the Earth is round?

Quote from: leclerc on April 03, 2007, 08:42:39 AM

So if most people believed in flat earth it would be a conspiracy?

In that case it would not be working quite as well as it does now. 

And why is that?

Quote from: leclerc on April 03, 2007, 08:42:39 AM

So if most people believed in flat earth it would be a conspiracy?

In that case it would not be working quite as well as it does now. 

Quote from: EIRD on April 03, 2007, 08:42:52 AM

Yet these experiments can't be duplicated.

The experiments can all be easily duplicated, though most require travel to a specific location.  Have you attempted any of these experiments, or are you just assuming they are wrong because you believe the Earth is round?

People of Sam's time already tried to duplicate the results of his experiments and failed.  This has already been gone over.

The experiments can all be easily duplicated, though most require travel to a specific location.  Have you attempted any of these experiments, or are you just assuming they are wrong because you believe the Earth is round?

We can tell how far asteroids and comets are from the earth but we cant get the distance to the sun right?  The sun argument alone proves the earth is round.  Just like your avatar.  

People of Sam's time already tried to duplicate the results of his experiments and failed.  This has already been gone over.

Oh his results?  You said experiments earlier, nice to see you change your tune.  Trying to weave me into a web of misleading questions; typical RE'er.   

Quote from: EvilToothpaste on April 03, 2007, 08:47:15 AM

Quote from: leclerc on April 03, 2007, 08:42:39 AM

So if most people believed in flat earth it would be a conspiracy?

In that case it would not be working quite as well as it does now. 

And why is that?

Because more people would know the truth, ergo the conspirators would not be as effective as they are now. 

We can tell how far asteroids and comets are from the earth but we cant get the distance to the sun right?  The sun argument alone proves the earth is round.  Just like your avatar. 

One can find the distance to the Sun using Eratosthenes' experiment. 

Quote from: EIRD on April 03, 2007, 08:50:39 AM

People of Sam's time already tried to duplicate the results of his experiments and failed.  This has already been gone over.

Oh his results?  You said experiments earlier, nice to see you change your tune.  Trying to weave me into a web of misleading questions; typical RE'er.   

Quote from: leclerc on April 03, 2007, 08:48:28 AM

Quote from: EvilToothpaste on April 03, 2007, 08:47:15 AM

Quote from: leclerc on April 03, 2007, 08:42:39 AM

So if most people believed in flat earth it would be a conspiracy?

In that case it would not be working quite as well as it does now. 

And why is that?

Because more people would know the truth, ergo the conspirators would not be as effective as they are now. 

Quote from: sokarul on April 03, 2007, 08:51:37 AM

We can tell how far asteroids and comets are from the earth but we cant get the distance to the sun right?  The sun argument alone proves the earth is round.  Just like your avatar. 

One can find the distance to the Sun using Eratosthenes' experiment. 

No, just missworded it.  I meant to say results, but put experiments.

I don't trust everything I'm told.

fair enough

Experiments in "Earth: Not a Globe" give evidence that the Earth is flat.

I've not read this paper, but I'll bet for every experiment that proves the earth is flat there's one that proves otherwise.  i have now read the FAQ, its just seems like your clutching at straws for the sake of it.  If the earth is a disc how would it have formed, the round earth is based on gravity holding it together, how does the flat earth stay together?

There must be a conspiracy since so many people believe the Earth is spherical

illogical argument.  thats like saying the following: "many people eat steak, but nobody likes it"

A handful of people have gone south in search of the edge of the Earth.  Most have not returned and the remaining never made it all the way.  Those that have not returned quite probably fell off the edge.

i wouldn't say they 'probably' fell off the edge, they 'probably' died in the horrible cold conditions of Antarctica.

Still not convinced, there must be a reason why you believe this

No, just missworded it.  I meant to say results, but put experiments.

Only 'Nature,' a publication of the Conspiracy, gave different results.

Dozens of Flat Earth books have confirmed Rowbotham's measurements over the years.

Dozens of flat earth books.Which dozens?I thought there was 1 new one and others are at least a thousand years old

Dozens of flat earth books.Which dozens?I thought there was 1 new one and others are at least a thousand years old

Lol the fiction book, Flatland.  He had it one of his lists. 

One can find the distance to the Sun using Eratosthenes' experiment. 

Or useing todays technology.  And you know what, they don't match. 

If the earth is a disc how would it have formed, the round earth is based on gravity holding it together, how does the flat earth stay together?

This has gone unanswered ^^

Dozens of flat earth books.Which dozens?I thought there was 1 new one and others are at least a thousand years old

See this list of Flat Earth References: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=10995.0

Lol the fiction book, Flatland.  He had it one of his lists.

Flatland is necessary REer reading for its philosophy.

If the earth is a disc how would it have formed, the round earth is based on gravity holding it together, how does the flat earth stay together?

Gravity doesn't exist in FE. Only gravitation.

I've not read this paper, but I'll bet for every experiment that proves the earth is flat there's one that proves otherwise.  i have now read the FAQ, its just seems like your clutching at straws for the sake of it.  If the earth is a disc how would it have formed, the round earth is based on gravity holding it together, how does the flat earth stay together?

Mostly by the strong, weak, and electromagnetic forces.  But the answer you're probably looking for is "uniform acceleration." 

illogical argument.  thats like saying the following: "many people eat steak, but nobody likes it"

You hack my bullets apart then expect to get something out of the mess you made?

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Dozens of flat earth books.Which dozens?I thought there was 1 new one and others are at least a thousand years old

See this list of Flat Earth References: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=10995.0

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Lol the fiction book, Flatland.  He had it one of his lists.

Flatland is necessary REer reading for its philosophy.

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If the earth is a disc how would it have formed, the round earth is based on gravity holding it together, how does the flat earth stay together?

Gravity doesn't exist in FE. Only gravitation.

The world of 3d attacking the world of 2d is important how? 

Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 03, 2007, 11:57:36 AM

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Dozens of flat earth books.Which dozens?I thought there was 1 new one and others are at least a thousand years old

See this list of Flat Earth References: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=10995.0

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Lol the fiction book, Flatland.  He had it one of his lists.

Flatland is necessary REer reading for its philosophy.

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If the earth is a disc how would it have formed, the round earth is based on gravity holding it together, how does the flat earth stay together?

Gravity doesn't exist in FE. Only gravitation.

The world of 3d attacking the world of 2d is important how? 

I'm having trouble understanding this too, Tom.  In "Flatland", the world was entirely 2-dimensional.  People laid flat on the world like paper on paper.  What does this have to do with Flat Earth theory?

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Dozens of flat earth books.Which dozens?I thought there was 1 new one and others are at least a thousand years old

See this list of Flat Earth References: http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=10995.0

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Lol the fiction book, Flatland.  He had it one of his lists.

Flatland is necessary REer reading for its philosophy.

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If the earth is a disc how would it have formed, the round earth is based on gravity holding it together, how does the flat earth stay together?

Gravity doesn't exist in FE. Only gravitation.

That doesn't explain how it holds together.

You hack my bullets apart then expect to get something out of the mess you made?

Talk crap, and i shoot you down, thats how it works i'm afraid.


"Gravity doesn't exist in FE. Only gravitation." -

gravitation, whats that?

gravitation, whats that?

It's what keeps you on the earth.

The Milky Way is flat.  I can walk outside, look up,  and see that it's flat.  So what's the explanation for the equilibrium of our galaxy? 

You just made the fatal mistake of answering a question with another question, thus proving you know nothing.  The FE theory is in dispute here not the RE one, so answer the damn question:

how would a flat earth have formed?

Quote from: Mrs. Gore on April 03, 2007, 11:26:03 PM

The Milky Way is flat.  I can walk outside, look up,  and see that it's flat.  So what's the explanation for the equilibrium of our galaxy? 

You just made the fatal mistake of answering a question with another question, thus proving you know nothing.  The FE theory is in dispute here not the RE one, so answer the damn question:

how would a flat earth have formed?

I thought you just proved I know nothing.

Quote from: EvilToothpaste on April 03, 2007, 12:00:27 PM

You hack my bullets apart then expect to get something out of the mess you made?

Talk crap, and i shoot you down, thats how it works i'm afraid.

It's pretty simple, and it's been posted so often it makes me want to purge on you. 
The Earth is flat. Many say otherwise.  Ergo, there must be a conspiracy. 

how would a flat earth have formed?

A long time ago, space-time is warped by some massive event, creating a semi-uniform acceleration across immense regions of space.  Space-time distortions propagate only at the speed of light so there is a kind of shock-wave moving through the universe as the distortion progresses.  Loose matter is accelerated as the distortion propagates, impacting upon other non-accelerated matter.  As more and more matter clumps together from these impacts, the mass is flattened by the impact force of inertial particles.  Over time, a very large and very flat object is created. 

It's pretty simple, and it's been posted so often it makes me want to purge on you. 
The Earth is flat. Many say otherwise.  Ergo, there must be a conspiracy. 

Many people like base ball, but it is in fact, shit. so there must be a conspiracy on that basis.
Its that sort of argument that makes everyone think FE'ers are cretins.

A long time ago, space-time is warped by some massive event, creating a semi-uniform acceleration across immense regions of space.  Space-time distortions propagate only at the speed of light so there is a kind of shock-wave moving through the universe as the distortion progresses.  Loose matter is accelerated as the distortion propagates, impacting upon other non-accelerated matter.  As more and more matter clumps together from these impacts, the mass is flattened by the impact force of inertial particles.  Over time, a very large and very flat object is created. 

This how ever is much better, its constructive.  Wouldn't it be possible under this model for other shapes to have been produced other than flat ones?

• I don't trust everything I'm told. 
• Experiments in "Earth: Not a Globe" give evidence that the Earth is flat. 
• There must be a conspiracy since so many people believe the Earth is spherical

A handful of people have gone south in search of the edge of the Earth.  Most have not returned and the remaining never made it all the way.  Those that have not returned quite probably fell off the edge.

Since you obviously misposted, let me correct your post...

• I don't trust everything I'm told; just everything that I read. 
• Experiments in "Earth: Not a Book, the Real Thing" give evidence that the Earth is round. 
• There must be a conspiracy since a small group of people are trying to convince the world that the world is flat.

A handful of people have gone south in search of the edge of the Earth.  Most have not returned and the remaining never made it all the way.  Those that have not returned quite probably fell off the edge died from the cold.

P.S. Fell off the edge of what? The Ice Wall?

i'd like to see a list of names of people that traveled to the edge and didn't come back. if there is an ice wall, doea that mean they climbed it and fell off of it onto the other side: space? even if they got to the ice wall, i thought it was gaurded 24/7....so how could they have even gotten close enough to fall off?

i hate mashed potatoes....but everyone around me loves them and thinks i'm crazy for not....their must be a conspiracy to this.