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Ok, let's have a serious debate

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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2007, 10:33:52 AM »
Quote from: TheEngineer on March 25, 2007, 01:33:25 AM
Quote from: D on March 24, 2007, 11:34:59 PM
Is anyone going to respond coherently to the questions I or Steph posted here?
We like relativity just fine, thanks.

OK, I am happy that you like it. So how does it mesh with a flat earth theory? Furthermore, what responses do you have to my other questions?
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2007, 10:39:19 AM »
Quote from: L0gic on March 25, 2007, 09:03:56 AM
They don't have an answer because there isn't one. As soon as they respond, you can nail them and end this so they just avoid the questions. I also notice that the further one carries a logical debate to disprove this speculation, the more attempts are made to discredit science and logic or make irrelevant comparisons. Reducing their theories gets you ignored or discredited.

If any of you have gone to Antarctica, they you must be lying.  ::)

I agree with you. I'm pretty disappointed that none of the "flat earthers" have retorted in a meaningful way. I want to learn what it is that makes a  person agree with the flat earth theory when you objectively examine the evidence vs. non-evidence. Come on FE people.
If you really believe the earth is flat then why not have the courage to stand up for your theory and respond in an adult, scientific manner to my simple questions.

I wanna give you people the benefit of the doubt but so far L0gic is exactly right, no one is answering my questions which, In my opinion, cast some serious doubts over a flat earth theory.

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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2007, 11:28:27 AM »
This is a good point, but I have one objection.  I do not know, personally, anybody who has actually done this:

Quote from: Steph on March 20, 2007, 07:06:15 AM
Now, if we take a plane, and follow these trajectories, we could take pictures of the land just below the plane, to check what areas we are flying over. To be sure we follow these curved trajectories.

Then, we could do the same flying on a straight line between these two points.

(assuming of course that by "straight line" you mean "curve that would be straight if the Earth is indeed flat".)
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2007, 05:33:06 PM »
We have to answer to no one. This is our board.
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #34 on: April 07, 2007, 09:02:13 PM »
Even though the reader may have trampled underfoot the Seventh Day Sabbath which recognizes Christ as creator, our Lord is still holding back the winds of destruction so that those who are still in Babylon may have a chance to flee out of it before it receives its plagues. God promises a blessing on those who make their stand for Him in Isaiah
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2007, 10:12:55 PM »
Hm, not exactly an abundance of FE's answering this question.

Please tell me; I'd like to know. Is Google in on the round earth lie? What do they have to gain? They don't care if a few conspiracy theorists think the world is flat.
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2007, 10:17:15 PM »
Google is not in on the Conspiracy. Why would they be?
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2007, 05:27:50 AM »
Private satellites exist you know. The university of surrey, UK, builds their own from time to time, and they're not exactly a giant super-rich institution. If they built them (with student help) assuming RE then they would expect data back, which might look a little different if the Earth was flat.
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #38 on: May 08, 2007, 08:57:25 AM »
Private satellites do not exist - they are built and sent up by Government Contractors. A single university or company hardly has the budget to reverse engineer trillion dollar rocket technology from the ground up. Creating a large payload rocket capable of reaching escape velocity is something beyond the capability of any private entity.

Plus, an entity needs clearance before breaching the Military airspace mark of 60,000 feet.
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #39 on: May 08, 2007, 09:51:12 AM »
Trillion dollar? NASA's budget is only $16.4 billion per year, and they haven't been saving up for 50 years...

I suggest you look at this: http://www.sstl.co.uk/index.php?loc=1 the private satellite company started by University Of Surrey. If you look at the about the company section you will see it is privately owned, primarily by the university of surrey and some private shareholders (though 85% control belongs to UniS). It is not a government institution and has no affiliation with the United States government, most of its missions are launched by Soyuz and the Ariane rockets of the ESA. The satellites are built and maintained by the company itself.
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2007, 10:11:29 AM »
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Trillion dollar? NASA's budget is only $16.4 billion per year, and they haven't been saving up for 50 years...

It took more than 50 years to perfect rocket technology. If a company wants to send a satellite into space they must either reverse engineer the technology from scratch (since the government does not make its rocket designs available to the public) or hire a Government Contractor to do it for them.

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I suggest you look at this: http://www.sstl.co.uk/index.php?loc=1 the private satellite company started by University Of Surrey

The Cairman's biography says that he worked on Britain's first microsatellite (UoSAT-1). That makes him part of the Conspiracy, still bound under government secrecy contracts.
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Re: Ok, let's have a serious debate
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2007, 10:16:35 AM »
Erm...what?

The chairman doesn't design and build the satellites himself. Neither does he receive or interpret the data from them (even if there was evidence for the conspiracy). Incidentally, that puts the British government in on the conspiracy too, despite its lack of privately-owned federal reserves etc. The chairman is no longer 'confined under government contracts'. He is running a private corporation! Where's your evidence? For anything?

And NASA has taken a long time to perfect rocket technology, but they were sending them into space when in the 60s. Where did the trillions come from then? Stop throwing arbitrary figures around to sound impressive.

Edit: There are currently 12 countries capable of launching their own satellites.
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