Day and Night, at the same time?

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Daetyrnis

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Day and Night, at the same time?
« on: March 15, 2007, 06:31:59 PM »
What is the Flat Earth explanation for it being daylight in one part of the world, say... Canada, and night time in another, say... Sweden?  For reference, I've talked to someone in Sweden over MSN, and it was day for him while it was clearly night for me.

If the Earth was flat, both places (Canada and Sweden) would be lit at the same time.  If the Earth was round, only certain parts would be lit and certain times.

This should be clearly illustrated with this picture (albeit with a tiny Sun).

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proflat

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2007, 06:35:01 PM »

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rolli

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2007, 06:35:43 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain

That doesn't explain sunlight in different parts of the world at different times, or did I miss that part?

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Daetyrnis

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2007, 06:39:05 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.

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proflat

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 06:42:39 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain

That doesn't explain sunlight in different parts of the world at different times, or did I miss that part?

thats a way to look at it.. and the mountain are in different heights.. so in some places theres sunlight and some palces not

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 06:43:40 PM »
What is the Flat Earth explanation for it being daylight in one part of the world, say... Canada, and night time in another, say... Sweden?  For reference, I've talked to someone in Sweden over MSN, and it was day for him while it was clearly night for me.

If the Earth was flat, both places (Canada and Sweden) would be lit at the same time.  If the Earth was round, only certain parts would be lit and certain times.

This should be clearly illustrated with this picture (albeit with a tiny Sun).


In our local area, the explanation is that what we call the Sun is actually a group of small spheres of hydrogen fusion located relatively close to us. When a sun sets, i.e. settles down in an Earth pocket, another one comes up. This complex interaction creates what we call day and night.

In other lands, the reason might differ. Some lands have no suns at all.

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proflat

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2007, 06:45:40 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?

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Daetyrnis

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2007, 06:46:35 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

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proflat

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2007, 06:49:16 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.
haha.. you're wrong.. you cant see other countries 'cause they're simply too far. and you should read the facts about that on this site before you say anything

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Azrael

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2007, 06:53:20 PM »
facts......more like a paperbag on a homeless man saying "the pope"

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2007, 06:53:41 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
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Matrixfart

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2007, 06:55:06 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
No. Sticking to the biblical belief that the earth is flat and the center of the universe is ridiculous.
Why hold on to a fanatical belief when facts laughs at you?

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2007, 06:56:27 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
No. Sticking to the biblical belief that the earth is flat and the center of the universe is ridiculous.

I am a pretty vocal atheist and anti-theist, actually. The Bible contributed absolutely zero to my flat earth position; in fact, it made me MORE suspicious of what I was finding out.
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Daetyrnis

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2007, 06:58:14 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.
haha.. you're wrong.. you cant see other countries 'cause they're simply too far. and you should read the facts about that on this site before you say anything
Why can you not see countries that are too far away.  You're using circular reasoning to explain it, don't use a fallacious argument.

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Daetyrnis

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2007, 06:59:36 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
Look out over the ocean.  Why can you not see the land on the other side?  There are no 'objects' in the way.

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proflat

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2007, 07:01:38 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
Look out over the ocean.  Why can you not see the land on the other side?  There are no 'objects' in the way.
ok.. the stars.. there are no object in the way! why cant you see whats on them?

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2007, 07:04:47 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
Look out over the ocean.  Why can you not see the land on the other side?  There are no 'objects' in the way.
ok.. the stars.. there are no object in the way! why cant you see whats on them?

You can, with a big enough telescope. How do you think we mapped the Moon?
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Tom Bishop

Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2007, 07:08:45 PM »
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Look out over the ocean.  Why can you not see the land on the other side?  There are no 'objects' in the way.

I'm really getting tired of copy/pasting this:

Q: If the earth is flat why can’t I see China from the coast of California?


This is a common question poised by newcomers to the forums. According to the layman one should be able to see forever across the horizon in the perfectly transparent atmosphere.

Unfortunately this is pure fallacy. Atoms are not transparent. And thus, the atmosphere is not perfectly transparent. After a certain point into the distance air density becomes clouded to the point it completely obscures objects beyond it. Viewing distance into the horizon is directly correlated with pressure, gas constant, temperature, humidity, and pollution. At sea level the average air density is 1.2250 kg/m3. This sort of density will allow a viewing distance of around 30 miles across the horizon. In New York the pollution and humidity is so bat that viewing distance is limited to around 14 miles.

At higher altitudes the air density drops sharply, allowing the viewer to see far away lands before they are obscured by a blue-white sky. It is for this reason that an observer standing on Mt. Everest can see other mountains over a hundred miles away. Such pristine conditions are rare on the earth, however.

Q: If the air obscures objects past 30 miles, why can I still see the sun?

Like headlights through fog the sun is intense enough to shine through the air’s density, illuminating the earth. Overhead, the sun is very intense. At the horizon the sun is considerably less intense since it must shine through more of the atmosphere at the horizon. Consider for a moment, is it easier to look at the sun at noon or at sunset?

The stars and moon are also less intense at the horizon than at zenith.

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proflat

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2007, 07:10:40 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
Look out over the ocean.  Why can you not see the land on the other side?  There are no 'objects' in the way.
ok.. the stars.. there are no object in the way! why cant you see whats on them?

You can, with a big enough telescope. How do you think we mapped the Moon?
we? who do you think you are???
and those pix are fake. made by the same people who made the "round" earth pictures

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Matrixfart

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2007, 07:10:53 PM »
Two errors Tom. The air is not blue, and it is not the air but moisture and particles int he air which impede visibility.
Why hold on to a fanatical belief when facts laughs at you?

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Daetyrnis

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2007, 07:13:39 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
Look out over the ocean.  Why can you not see the land on the other side?  There are no 'objects' in the way.
ok.. the stars.. there are no object in the way! why cant you see whats on them?

You can, with a big enough telescope. How do you think we mapped the Moon?
we? who do you think you are???
and those pix are fake. made by the same people who made the "round" earth pictures
I've looked through a telescope and seen the surface of the moon, albeit less detailed than those 'pictures', I could make out general shapes.
That was not a fake picture.

And Tom, how come faraway buildings and such are not silhouetted during a sunset/rise?

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Franc T., Planar

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Re: Day and Night, at the same time?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2007, 07:14:49 PM »
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11613.0
this will explain
The would we not see the mountains or the fog?

No, we see the atmosphere or 'sky'.
well.. you cant see the fog because its too far. you cant see another country from where you are.. how do you expect to see that?
You cannot see a far away country because the earth is round.  Your vision does not simply cut out.

You cannot see far away objects because there are other objects blocking your way. Period. The Earth is not round, that's ridiculous.
Look out over the ocean.  Why can you not see the land on the other side?  There are no 'objects' in the way.
ok.. the stars.. there are no object in the way! why cant you see whats on them?

You can, with a big enough telescope. How do you think we mapped the Moon?
we? who do you think you are???
and those pix are fake. made by the same people who made the "round" earth pictures

What are you, some kind of conspiracy theorist?
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