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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #60 on: March 16, 2007, 01:54:26 AM »
Matter can not be infinite, because that would require the creation of new matter, and matter as most know can not be destroyed or created, just changed. The same with energy, which would also have to be created, or most of the "worlds" would be dead.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #61 on: March 16, 2007, 01:57:31 AM »
Quote from: The cookie theory on March 16, 2007, 01:54:26 AM
Matter can not be infinite, because that would require the creation of new matter, and matter as most know can not be destroyed or created, just changed. The same with energy, which would also have to be created, or most of the "worlds" would be dead.

An infinite plane does not "require the creation of new matter." Infinite matter/energy has always existed.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #62 on: March 16, 2007, 01:59:53 AM »
That's illogical. You don't understand the concept of infinity.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #63 on: March 16, 2007, 02:02:15 AM »
And yet infinite matter/energy has always existed. It cannot be otherwise, since matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed, and the Earth must be infinite. Ergo you are wrong.  :o
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2007, 02:05:38 AM »
There is no "must" here. You have dillusions or are lying or are kidding us, and there is no possibility that the earth is infinite.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #65 on: March 16, 2007, 02:07:06 AM »
Quote from: The cookie theory on March 16, 2007, 02:05:38 AM
There is no "must" here. You have dillusions or are lying or are kidding us, and there is no possibility that the earth is infinite.

And yet mathematically and scientifically it is the only possibility. Everything else is outright impossible.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #66 on: March 16, 2007, 02:11:30 AM »
Elaborate.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2007, 02:22:32 AM »
Quote from: The cookie theory on March 16, 2007, 02:11:30 AM
Elaborate.

1. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore it must be eternal.
2. The earth cannot be finite, because any given dimension would be infinitely improbable. The only sound possibilities are: either for the Earth does not exist, or it is unmeasurable, infinite. Since the Earth exists, it must be infinite.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2007, 02:30:30 AM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 02:22:32 AM
Quote from: The cookie theory on March 16, 2007, 02:11:30 AM
Elaborate.

1. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore it must be eternal.
2. The earth cannot be finite, because any given dimension would be infinitely improbable. The only sound possibilities are: either for the Earth does not exist, or it is unmeasurable, infinite. Since the Earth exists, it must be infinite.

  • That's stupid. Any given dimension is as proabable as the next, whereas infinite matter is impossible, not improbable.
  • Try not to bullshit me, please.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2007, 02:38:00 AM »
"Infinite matter" is not a priori impossible. A finite Earth is.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2007, 02:56:37 AM »
The only thing infinite here is your ignorance.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2007, 02:57:51 AM »
Quote from: The cookie theory on March 16, 2007, 02:56:37 AM
The only thing infinite here is your ignorance.

Agreed.

Though he's starting to entertain me now with it
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2007, 03:02:08 AM »
Me too. If I didn't love all this, I would've left yesterday.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2007, 03:05:11 AM »
It is brilliant, glad I didn't leave either.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2007, 09:51:03 AM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
"Infinite matter" is not a priori impossible. A finite Earth is.

Since FEers agree that gravitation exists,  then the overwelming mass of an infinite Earth would result in significant space-time curvature; significant enought for acceleration to be much greater than 9.81m/s/s in our localized area.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2007, 09:56:59 AM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 15, 2007, 04:07:02 AM
Why should the Earth be finite? Why should it have 924,375,700 km circumference? Why not 924,375,600 km or 924,375,800 km? Stop denying the obvious truth of the Infinite Planar Earth.

What you call "Earth" is only our local area, there are many other lands surrounding it, beyond the Ice Wall.

There is PureLand, where humans who are pure enough, through abstaining of drugs (most Round Earthers would be disqualified just by that criterion), drink, gambling or criminal activities, may enter and enjoy a life of felicity.

There is also the land of Structo, where corrupt humans pass on to live a life controlled by a central authority called The Computer. There, no one is free to do anything without approval from the relevant authority. People are conditioned to obey, obey, obey, and forget their own desires, even going so far as to kill their loved ones. It is a living hell filled with paranoia and self-hatred.

Finally, we know about something the Pagans called Summerland, which has a veil that can only be pierced by spirits. Since no one here is a spirit, its composition is as yet unknown.
And since you believe that a round earth is a religion, and that a flat earth is science, I'm sitting here eagerly awaiting your scientific proof of these worlds, as you must have seen them with your own eyes... You were question grammar and spelling in a different thread, therefore you must have some passion. 

Science is defined as:
1.   a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.
2.   systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.
3.   any of the branches of natural or physical science.
4.   systematized knowledge in general.
5.   knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.
6.   a particular branch of knowledge.
7.   skill, esp. reflecting a precise application of facts or principles; proficiency.

Please explain where these beyond the great ice-wall words fit into this definition.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2007, 10:04:22 AM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 02:22:32 AM
Quote from: The cookie theory on March 16, 2007, 02:11:30 AM
Elaborate.

1. Matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore it must be eternal.
2. The earth cannot be finite, because any given dimension would be infinitely improbable. The only sound possibilities are: either for the Earth does not exist, or it is unmeasurable, infinite. Since the Earth exists, it must be infinite.

1. Just because matter and energy are eternal, i does not exclude the possibility of there being a finite amount.
2. The Earth can be relativiely finite in dimensions due to gravitational "forces" (i.e. space-time curvature).
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2007, 10:10:25 AM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 02:38:00 AM
"Infinite matter" is not a priori impossible. A finite Earth is.
A finite earth is not at all impossible, even given the interesting circumstances you believe it exists in.  Let's assume that your statement is correct, that matter is infinite (which as another post states, is not a requirement of it being eternal), you also assume that it has to be on earth, which by your own theories is not the case, since there are celestial bodies orbiting the earth.  Additionally, we see a finite end of the earth on at least one side (the side that we inhabit), which would suggest it's the case after the "ice wall." 
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2007, 05:32:50 PM »
The Earth is infinite, but that does not preclude other quantities of matter from existing. Ever heard of aleph-zero, aleph-one, etc?
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2007, 08:40:13 PM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 05:32:50 PM
The Earth is infinite, but that does not preclude other quantities of matter from existing. Ever heard of aleph-zero, aleph-one, etc?
Infinite Earth requires infinite energy.  There is not infinite energy in the universe. 
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2007, 08:43:07 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on March 16, 2007, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 05:32:50 PM
The Earth is infinite, but that does not preclude other quantities of matter from existing. Ever heard of aleph-zero, aleph-one, etc?
Infinite Earth requires infinite energy.  There is not infinite energy in the universe. 

Yes there is.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2007, 09:35:05 PM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: sokarul on March 16, 2007, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 05:32:50 PM
The Earth is infinite, but that does not preclude other quantities of matter from existing. Ever heard of aleph-zero, aleph-one, etc?
Infinite Earth requires infinite energy.  There is not infinite energy in the universe. 

Yes there is.
proof?
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #82 on: March 16, 2007, 10:14:00 PM »
Quote from: sokarul on March 16, 2007, 09:35:05 PM
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: sokarul on March 16, 2007, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 05:32:50 PM
The Earth is infinite, but that does not preclude other quantities of matter from existing. Ever heard of aleph-zero, aleph-one, etc?
Infinite Earth requires infinite energy.  There is not infinite energy in the universe. 

Yes there is.
proof?

Because the Earth is infinite.
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2007, 10:29:33 PM »
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: sokarul on March 16, 2007, 09:35:05 PM
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: sokarul on March 16, 2007, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Francois Tremblay, of the Infinite Plane on March 16, 2007, 05:32:50 PM
The Earth is infinite, but that does not preclude other quantities of matter from existing. Ever heard of aleph-zero, aleph-one, etc?
Infinite Earth requires infinite energy.  There is not infinite energy in the universe. 

Yes there is.

proof?


Because the Earth is infinite.

Yeah ok dude. 
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Re: The Earth is infinite!
« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2007, 11:04:48 PM »
Someone hand this guy a dictionary.
I don't think he knows the meaning of "proof".
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