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I steal from websites
« on: March 09, 2007, 01:34:01 PM »
This is a question that has been asked for many years, and there are some very intuitive, and some not-so-intuitive answers.

To start with... there's a horizon, meaning that the surface that one is observing from is not an infinite plane. On the clearest of days, the only restriction to one's range of sight is the horizon. There can be two explanations for this - one, that the Earth at some point just stops, as if you were looking off the edge of a table. The other is that the Earth is round. Hundreds of years ago, before the invention of the compass or sextant, precise navigation for ships was difficult, even with the stars. Ships that ventured past sight of land were often lost, and thus it was generally believed that the world simply *stopped* at the end of the horizon. With the invention of the compass, and improved map-making, people began to dare more, and with the return of Columbus from his trans-Atlantic voyage, the concept of the Earth as flat was shattered.

Further proof of the Earth being round came after the voyage of Columbus. When Newton discovered and measured the force of gravity, that number could then be tested anywhere the theory was known. Since the force of gravity is roughly the same everywhere on the globe, it could be surmised that the Earth must be spherical. If the Earth were not round, whole hemispheres would have different atmospheric pressure and significantly different sea levels. Also, pictures taken of the Earth in the last 50 years have proved absolutely conclusively that the Earth is round. These are just the arguments that don't require much physics knowledge to explain, there are others that are more technical, but I think that the simplest arguments are the best.

Answered by: Frank DiBonaventuro, B.S., Physics grad, The Citadel, Air Force officer


There are a multitude of methods in which any one can prove that the earth is a sphere. These are the most common.

You can launch a rocket to a high altitude and take pictures of the earth (which various government agencies and private groups have already done thousands of times in the past), but that isn't the most practical way. Pictures and videos taken by orbiting satellites and space stations are certainly the most definitive proof that the earth is a sphere.

But if you're not convinced, read on...

You can also observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

The Greeks discovered that the earth is round by observing lunar eclipses (i.e. when the earth blocks the sun from the moon, casting its round shadow on the moon's surface).

Another method is simultaneously measuring the length of the shadows cast by identical poles perpendicular to a flat surface that is tangential to the earth's radius at various, distant locations. If indeed the earth is round, then the shadows should all vary in length from one distant location to another, which means that the angle at which the parallel rays of sunlight struck each pole varied from one location to another. (recall the alternate-angles theorem from Geometry class) If the earth is flat, then the lengths of all the shadows should be identical when measured simultaneously, since all rays of sunlight that strike the earth are parallel. However, they are not identical, but in fact, varies in such a way that the angles indicate a spherical surface. (This was one of the earliest methods to determine the radius of the earth)

Also, keep in mind the 24 hour time zones. When it is noon in Hawaii, it is approximately midnight in the Middle East and vice versa. How can it be noon and midnight simultaneously? It is certainly impossible with a flat earth and a sun millions of times more massive.

If I were a billionaire and physically fit, then proving to you the earth is round would be no problem. I can just take you with me on the space shuttle and we'll watch with our own eyes the earth from the orbiting International Space Station.

I have heard from astronauts that there is no experience comparable as watching the earth from above.
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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2007, 02:45:41 PM »
Well when I use my Jesus magicks I can see that you are lying...LIARS...WHAT MAKES YOU LIE!!!

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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2007, 02:52:17 PM »
MooBs, you need to stop being lazy and read the book Earth Not a Globe. We're tired of holding your hand through the basic principles of Flat Earth Theory. Each of those discrepancies are accurately explained within its literature.
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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2007, 02:58:51 PM »
MooBs, you need to stop being lazy and read the book Earth Not a Globe. We're tired of holding your hand through the basic principles of Flat Earth Theory. Each of those discrepancies are accurately explained within its literature.

Read War and Peace yet? That proves the Earth is round* :P, but its hard to find, find it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2007, 02:59:37 PM »
Yo Tom, i wont believe you until you go and do each of those experiments again.

Have you actually seen them work with your own eyes?

If yes, then I want you to do it again and video document it all.

Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2007, 03:02:00 PM »
NOTHING IS EXPLAINED BY EARTH: NOT A GLOBE.

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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2007, 03:25:02 PM »
NOTHING IS EXPLAINED BY EARTH: NOT A GLOBE.

Here are some more things you can try:

    Step 1. Look outside your window

    Step 2. Read the FAQ

    Step 3. Read the FAQ again

    Step 4. Read the book "One hundred proofs the Earth is not a Globe" by William Carpenter

    Step 5. Read the back-issues of Flat Earth News Quarterly

    Step 6. Read the book "Flatland" by Edwin A. Abbott

    Step 7. Read The book "The terrestrial plane" by Frederick H. Cook

    Step 8. Read the book "Universal gravitation a universal fake" by Charles S. DeFord

    Step 9. Read the book "Does the earth rotate?" by William Edgell

    Step 10. Read the book "Earth not a globe: scientifically, geometrically, philosophically demonstrated" by Henry J. Goudey

    Step 11. Read the book "The book of light" by Gilbert Johnson

    Step 12. Read the book "Unpopular truth against popular error in reference to the shape of the earth." by Charles W. Morse

    Step 13. Read the book "A challenge from the earth-flattening society" by Richard A. Proctor

    Step 14. Read the book "The Earth: A Plane" by John E. Quinlan

    Step 15. Read the book "He knew earth is round, but his proof fell flat" by Robert J Schadewald

    Step 16. Read the book "The view from the edge; on the necessity of the flat earth" by John P. Sisk

    Step 17. Read the book "Is the earth a whirling globe?" by Carl Albert Smith

    Step 18. Read the book "Answers to the common 'proofs' that the earth is a globe" by Chester M. Shippey

    Step 19. Read the book "In defense of the square peg." by Irving Wallace

    Step 20. Read the book "The shape of the earth; some proofs for the spherical shape of the earth given in astronomical and geographical text-books examined, and shown to be unsound" by Arthur V. White

    Step 21. Read the book "The Flat Earth and her moulder" by Ossipoff H. Woofson

    Step 22. Come to the conclusion of a Flat Earth
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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2007, 03:29:20 PM »
Sop how come we never see quotes or proofs from all these amazing pieces of "literature"?

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2007, 03:34:36 PM »
Sop how come we never see quotes or proofs from all these amazing pieces of "literature"?

It's all over this forum you ignorant sheeple. Either follow the steps or get the fuck out.
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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2007, 03:40:17 PM »
Sop how come we never see quotes or proofs from all these amazing pieces of "literature"?

It's all over this forum you ignorant sheeple. Either follow the steps or get the fuck out.

Follow the steps told in War and Peace please, before you make up your mind.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2007, 03:40:59 PM »
Sop how come we never see quotes or proofs from all these amazing pieces of "literature"?

It's all over this forum you ignorant sheeple. Either follow the steps or get the fuck out.

I think you will find bullshit all over this forum but no proof or quotes from these books.

Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2007, 05:20:07 PM »
Sop how come we never see quotes or proofs from all these amazing pieces of "literature"?

It's all over this forum you ignorant sheeple. Either follow the steps or get the fuck out.

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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2007, 05:26:25 PM »
Tom Bishop is a government agent. Just ignore him.
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2007, 07:48:48 PM »
MooBs, you need to stop being lazy and read the book Earth Not a Globe.

Is this classified as fiction?
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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2007, 08:29:24 PM »
MooBs, you need to stop being lazy and read the book Earth Not a Globe. We're tired of holding your hand through the basic principles of Flat Earth Theory. Each of those discrepancies are accurately explained within its literature.

Tom you need to stop being lazy and read Harry Potter. Then you can finally understand flat earth theory yourself. The answer is MAGIC.

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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2007, 08:48:26 PM »
MooBs, you need to stop being lazy and read the book Earth Not a Globe. We're tired of holding your hand through the basic principles of Flat Earth Theory. Each of those discrepancies are accurately explained within its literature.

 I knew it. Selling books.
My problem with his ideas is that it is a ridiculous thing.

Genius. PURE, undiluted genius.

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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2007, 06:39:19 AM »
It's all over this forum you ignorant sheeple. Either follow the steps or get the fuck out.
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ahaha, tom bitchop got pissed. relax there old buddy, you wouldn't want your grandchildren to learn how to cuss now would you  :-X
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2007, 05:25:30 PM »
Sop how come we never see quotes or proofs from all these amazing pieces of "literature"?

Here's a quote from "A hundred proofs the earth is not a globe" - so you can guage it's scientific credibility.

Proof 33: If the Earth were a globe, people- except those on top - would certainly have to be fastened to it's surface by some means or other; ... but as we know we simply walk on it's surface, without any other aid than that which is necessary for locomotion on a flat plane, tt follows that we have herein a conclusive proof that the earth is not a globe.

another quote from it is something like "are the antipodes standing upside-down like sleeping bats?"


good stuff, if you ask me.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2007, 05:31:55 PM »
After reading that quote I am a true FEer.
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2007, 09:19:04 PM »
Sop how come we never see quotes or proofs from all these amazing pieces of "literature"?

It's all over this forum you ignorant sheeple. Either follow the steps or get the fuck out.
It appears your as amazing with people as you are with reality.

Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2007, 09:49:28 PM »
MooBs, you need to stop being lazy and read the book Earth Not a Globe. We're tired of holding your hand through the basic principles of Flat Earth Theory. Each of those discrepancies are accurately explained within its literature.

ROFL

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Re: I steal from websites
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2007, 10:37:38 AM »
    NOTHING IS EXPLAINED BY EARTH: NOT A GLOBE.

    Here are some more things you can try:

    Step 6. Read the book "Flatland" by Edwin A. Abbott

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    They just made that into a movie.  Looks like the world of 3d invades 2d world.  Dont know how that proves the Earth is flat. 
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    « Reply #22 on: March 11, 2007, 11:51:51 AM »
    Read War and Peace yet? That proves the Earth is round* , but its hard to find, find it.

    That book should be long enough to keep him off the forums for a while ;)
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    « Reply #23 on: March 11, 2007, 12:01:38 PM »
    Read War and Peace yet? That proves the Earth is round* , but its hard to find, find it.

    That book should be long enough to keep him off the forums for a while ;)

    Nah, he cant handle the truth so wont read it.
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