Time to Speak Out

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2007, 08:15:06 AM »
Raind drops are perfectly spherical unless they are falling through air. If they fall in a vacuum they are spherical all the way down. I hope this puts an end to this pointless and off-topic banter.
Is it natural for raindrops to form and fall through vacuums? 


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2007, 08:16:49 AM »
No but its natural for them to tend towards a spherical shape. Not that I can remember why thats important though
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2007, 08:17:09 AM »
Are you trying to define the natural habitat of water here?

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2007, 08:31:51 AM »
Are you trying to define the natural habitat of water here?
No, I'm trying to educate people who think that raindrops are spherical.


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2007, 08:37:10 AM »
Nobody mentioned raindrops until you brought it up. As you are well aware water forms spheres (which is what was claimed in the first place) when no external influences are applied. Why you would bring up raindrops as eveidence against this is beyond me to be perfectly honest. Can you say "straw-man"?

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2007, 08:46:54 AM »
raindrops are undeniable examples of how objects behave naturally.


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2007, 09:00:58 AM »
They are.

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« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2007, 09:11:05 AM »
They are.

1. Raindrops are far from perfect spheres.

2. Raindrops are not the earth.

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2007, 09:15:42 AM »
They are.

1. Raindrops are far from perfect spheres.

2. Raindrops are not the earth.

Pleas read the full conversation. It was merely stated that spheres are very common shapes for natural materials to form. Then someone said that raindrops aren't spherical, which they are. That's the only reason I got into this discussion because I felt like jumping on that error.

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2007, 09:17:54 AM »
Everybody, its time to take a stand.  We "FEers" "you" will no longer be made fools by the government.  We are not lab mice.  Its time to make a difference.  I say to all of you, do not be afraid.  We "you" will be slaughtered by the critics, but we "you" will stand through the torrent.  We "you" cannot fail if we "you" are correct.  Its time to but a voice to our cries.  Its time we had balls.  Whos with me, lets kick some ass.
Go ahead. We'll be right here waiting for you to return. :)
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2007, 09:35:24 AM »
Then someone said that raindrops aren't spherical, which they are.
Raindrops are not spherical.


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2007, 09:37:37 AM »
Then someone said that raindrops aren't spherical, which they are.
Raindrops are not spherical.
what shape would you call them? they're a weird shape...round bottomed cone?
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2007, 09:38:11 AM »
I would say more like a hamburger bun.


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2007, 09:47:42 AM »
I'd call them distorted spheres.

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2007, 09:48:57 AM »
So is a square.


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2007, 09:53:20 AM »
A square of what?

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2007, 09:53:55 AM »
hmm...Traditionally, tears and rain drops have been drawn has roundbottomed cones...like a sphere that's been pinned out on top and stretched...
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2007, 10:25:31 AM »
Raindrops are spherical.
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2007, 10:28:40 AM »
wow i got some feedback, w8, no, aww man got off topic fast, yes i am a REer but i do believe in the power of the people.  i will support any efforts to bring the FE story out to the public.  Something outside of a protest.  Which would be absolutely gay, but i believe with motivation all the FEers at this site and elsewhere could bring themselves together to make a stand and present some information to the public about the possibility or probability that the earth is flat.  Arguing on a forum gets someone nowhere.  I believe the information on this site can really make a point, a lot of time and effort in making these theories could benefit the public when they hear of it.

I believe in a new era of rebelism.
Time to take a stand!
It takes balls to take a stand!
Do you have the balls to take the stand?
We want you to take the stand!

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2007, 10:32:16 AM »
Go forth forum warriors!! Spread the word of Flanet!

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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2007, 10:34:12 AM »
Go forth forum warriors!! Spread the word of Flanet!
lol sounds so medieval, yeah i feel like braveheart, whoa not cool.
yeah but fo real, time to take a stand
Time to take a stand!
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2007, 12:36:50 PM »
hmm...Traditionally, tears and rain drops have been drawn has roundbottomed cones...like a sphere that's been pinned out on top and stretched...
And wrong.


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2007, 12:37:51 PM »
Yeah, raindrops are actually closer to...yes, discs.  They flatten out due to air resistance.
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« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2007, 05:00:56 PM »
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Yeah, raindrops are actually closer to...yes, discs.  They flatten out due to air resistance.

My point about raindrops and bubbles is that they form as spheres and not flat discs.  The Earth also was formed spherically.  There is no great force smashing the Earth into a disc shape.  Besides raindrops compress into dome shapes as they fall, not discs.

My other points were more important like the fact that the weather would not behave the way it does with a flat Earth.  Weather forecast models would never have the slightest chance of working if the Earth were flat.  They are all based on a spherical rotating Earth. 

Also the Earth's magnetic field is generated by the friction in the Spherical iron core of the spherical Earth against its mantle which rotates at a different speed.  Without this magnetic field, solar wind would destroy all life on the Earth.  A very easy-to-see example of solar wind is the Aurora Borealis and degraded radio/satellite communcation during such an event.

I see no one has brought up the fact that as the night progresses, anyone can see that stars pass behind the moon. This disproves the meteor cloud theory since all explanations of a meteor cloud are that it is between us and the sun/moon. 

I know people that have lived in New Zeland where the seasons are backwards from the U.S.  If there is no southern hemisphere, then where did they live for those many years?

A flat Earth is just as plausible as the one in this picture.
http://www-static.cc.gatech.edu/~turk/texture_transfer/earth_knot.jpg
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2007, 05:04:39 PM »
Changed my mind. I believe in the earth in that picture. It looks pretty cool
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« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2007, 05:19:08 PM »
Also the Earth's magnetic field is generated by the friction in the Spherical iron core of the spherical Earth against its mantle which rotates at a different speed. 
That must be something they only teach at meteorology school.  How does the friction generate the magnetic field?


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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2007, 05:58:55 PM »
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That must be something they only teach at meteorology school.  How does the friction generate the magnetic field


It's similar to how passing an iron rod through a coiled wire generates a magnetic field in any electromagnet.

This website gives a good explanation of how it works.

http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/field/field_e.php
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2007, 06:07:27 PM »
Actually, it's more like how passing a current through a solenoid produces a magnetic field.



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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2007, 07:35:41 PM »
Research topics for Flat Earthers:

1. Current weather patterns can only exist on a spherical Earth.  I know for a fact, I am a weather forecaster.   search these words: 'Coriolis Effect' 'comma cloud'
No, only rotation: just because someone thinks the Earth is flat doesn't mean the disk doesn't rotate.

2. A spherical Juipter can be observed rotating through any good telescope.
So what? This is the flat Earth society, not the flat Jupiter society.

3. A spherical rotating Sun can be observed through any good telescope.
So what? This is the flat Earth society, not the flat Sun society.  See my post on "The sun rises unblocked." p3 for why FE doesn't need spotlight sun, flat sun or anything but the observed (slightly oblate), rotating spherical sun

4. Time slows down as you approach the speed of light, therefore if the Earth is constantly accelerating, we would be at a stand still in time by now.  And since we can't go the speed of light unless we become energy, then when we reach the max speed, will everything float off the Earth into outerspace?  That's just a ridiculous notion.
Only relative to an outside observer travelling at speed of light relative to us.  Relativity allows for a constantly accelerating body - in fact the time dilation effect is exactly to allow that - the slowing of time and contracting of space is what allows apparent constant acceleration to generate speeds which only approach the speed of light asymptotically.

5. How many millions of people would it really take to "cover up" everything as a government conspiracy?
You don't have to believe in a conspiracy to believe in FE.  My curved light theory explains things without it.

6. The Earth's magnetic field can only exist with a sphere with a core of iron as it is.  A flat Earth would have a very different magnetic field.
No, it can get by with a sheet of iron, together with my curved light theory (remember light is electro-magnetic, so the theory includes magnetism as well as light)  Details on the "Why ships' hulls disappear, photos from space and other mysteries" thread

7. The shadow on the moon cast by the sun clearly shows that it is a sphere.  Can you get more obvious than that?
Also explained by curved light - diagram will appear on above mentioned thread tomorrow

8. Perhaps the Flat Earth Society is really an elaborate government conspiracy to distract society from their real cover ups.
It must be working, you have been distracted.

9. Or Perhaps the Flat Earth Society is just an arena to develop one's debate skills.  That would make sense since a good debator can argue any points, even obviously ridiculous ones.
OK, so let's see if you're any good - how would you argue Flat Earth?

10. Bubbles and raindrops are undeniable examples of how objects behave naturally.
No doubt.  So are salt cubes.

If you really want to bring yourself out of darkness, take these points into consideration.
Done.  See above rebuttals.
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Re: Time to Speak Out
« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2007, 07:52:30 PM »
#5.  O great your curved light theory. The one you came up with without and evidence.  The one that causes light to bend upwards for some unknown reason.

#6.  Light is not electro-magnetic.  Light and electrisity are 2 different things. 

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