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« on: February 17, 2007, 12:28:09 PM »
Ok, to start this out im not here to call you guys dumb or use any rude comments. Please do excuse my spelling, as just because I dont spell everything right doesn't mean I cant use logic.

Ok on to the subject at hand. I'm a nonbeleaver in the 'Earth is flat' theory. Tell me why I should beleave what you guys beleave, and i'll do the same on my part. Please no useless comments or anything. I really want to know why do you think the earth is flat, i'll start.

I beleave the Earth is round because, it's in space. Most of y'all are thinking im insane right about now but just wait. What I beleave it that the Earth is spining, on an axis. Now space is a vacum (just for the peope that don't know that *wink*), most people beleave that the Earth was hit by an Asroid giving Earth it's spin and the aftermath of the two coming together split the Earth in about 1/3 or 1/4, and the mass that came from the Earth after its impact formed into the Moon, ok I wanted to give a backround of a theory I beleave. So here it is. Two huge masses in space, both spinning. Now they both have there own gravaity. As it spins the gravaity holds everything together. So its compacting it into a ball. This happens with the Earth and the Moon. So thats my basic theory, on how the Earth, and the Moon is round.


You're turn, anser these for me.

How do you explain tides?
What about the seasons?
And why hasn't anyone explored the 'Ice wall' that surrounds the 'flat' Earth, and if they have please show some pics.
And people that have flown 'around the World', explain to me how they flew around a flat earth.
How thick is the 'flat Earth'?

Last one... Whats on the other side?


~Rob
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 12:31:49 PM »
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Last one... Whats on the other side?

More Penguins.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2007, 12:32:26 PM »
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I beleave the Earth is round because, it's in space.


 :roll:

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How do you explain tides?


See the FAQ.

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What about the seasons?


See the FAQ.

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And why hasn't anyone explored the 'Ice wall' that surrounds the 'flat' Earth, and if they have please show some pics.


They have. Search for "antarctica" in Google Image Search.

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And people that have flown 'around the World', explain to me how they flew around a flat earth.


Circumnavigation is possible on the Flat Earth. See the FAQ.

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How thick is the 'flat Earth'?


At least two hundred kilometers deep.

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Last one... Whats on the other side?


See the FAQ.
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Gridleak

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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2007, 12:46:32 PM »
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Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?"

A: It's a conspiracy


We fight and wage Wars, but yet we work together to keep a "conspiracy"?


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Q: "If the world was really flat, what would happen if you jump off the disc's edge?"

A: You would enter an inertial reference frame, moving at a constant velocity in the direction the Earth was moving before you jumped. The Earth would continue accelerating upwards past you at a rate of 1g, so it would appear to you that you were falling into space.


Ok, would it be possable? My theory on Gravaity is all about mass. The bigger things are the more Gravaity it has. If we had a flat Earth then if you tryed to jump off the side wouldn't you be crushed? seeing how the earth has more pull from that side?


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Q: "What about gravity?"

A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity.


What made everything to move upwards at 1g (9.8/s-2)?
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2007, 12:48:35 PM »
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Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?"

A: It's a conspiracy


We fight and wage Wars, but yet we work together to keep a "conspiracy"?


That's gotta make the most sense out of anything I've ever read here  :!:
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Gridleak

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2007, 12:50:56 PM »
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Q: "Why do the all the world Governments say the Earth is round?"

A: It's a conspiracy


We fight and wage Wars, but yet we work together to keep a "conspiracy"?


That's gotta make the most sense out of anything I've ever read here  :!:


Now you know how I feel, why would the Earth fight with it's self but still work together to keep something like this from us?
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2007, 12:52:01 PM »
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We fight and wage Wars, but yet we work together to keep a "conspiracy"?


The Conspiracy is a separate entity than the governments of the world.

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Ok, would it be possable? My theory on Gravaity is all about mass. The bigger things are the more Gravaity it has. If we had a flat Earth then if you tryed to jump off the side wouldn't you be crushed? seeing how the earth has more pull from that side?


RE theory of gravity holds no water without the existance of a hypothetical particle called the "gravitron."

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What made everything to move upwards at 1g (9.8/s-2)?


It's not just moving, it's accelerating. The acceleration is caused by expansion of the universe.
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2007, 12:53:18 PM »
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Q: "What about gravity?"

A1: The Earth is accelerating upwards at 1g (9.8m/s-2) along with every star, sun and moon in the universe. This produces the same effect as gravity.


How do you explain the attraction between comets, asteroids and planets?? :o
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2007, 12:54:32 PM »
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How do you explain the attraction between comets, asteroids and planets?? :o


Dark matter.
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2007, 12:54:38 PM »
Tom how do you keep this act up 24/7? It must get boring.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2007, 12:55:02 PM »
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How do you explain the attraction between comets, asteroids and planets?? :o


Equivalence Principle.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2007, 12:56:04 PM »
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We fight and wage Wars, but yet we work together to keep a "conspiracy"?


The Conspiracy is a separate entity than the governments of the world.


Tom,congrats.

I have officially lost all hope in you.
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MooBs

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2007, 12:56:23 PM »
Tom how do u know the Earth is flat?
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2007, 12:57:19 PM »
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Equivalence Principal.


You have no clue what that is, do you?
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2007, 12:57:28 PM »
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Tom how do u know the Earth is flat?


As a conclusion from my own personal observations, experiments and scientific proofs.

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You have no clue what that is, do you?


Yes actually, I do.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2007, 12:57:43 PM »
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How do you explain the attraction between comets, asteroids and planets?? :o


Equivalence Principal.


I just wanted to let you know that you've spelled "principle" incorrectly in about 10 different threads.
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Gridleak

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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2007, 12:57:45 PM »
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quote]We fight and wage Wars, but yet we work together to keep a "conspiracy"?


The Conspiracy is a separate entity than the governments of the world. [/quote]

Mhmmm..  Where is this all held? So far y'all havn't givin me and ansers other than, it's a Conspiracy.


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What made everything to move upwards at 1g (9.8/s-2)?


It's not just moving, it's accelerating. The acceleration is caused by expansion of the universe.


What caused the expansion of the universe?
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2007, 12:59:21 PM »
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What caused the expansion of the universe?


The same mechanism that caused the expansion of the universe in the RE model.
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MooBs

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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2007, 01:01:19 PM »
What happens when we hit the roof of the universe? :(
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2007, 01:01:33 PM »
Selective responses that only support your cause are funny.
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Gridleak

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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2007, 01:02:37 PM »
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Tom how do u know the Earth is flat?


As a conclusion from my own personal observations, experiments and scientific proofs.


I would like to see the outcomes of the experiments.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2007, 01:04:25 PM »
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I would like to see the outcomes of the experiments.


Step 1. Look outside your window

Step 2. Read the FAQ

Step 3. Read the book "Earth not a Globe" by Samuel Birley Rowbotham

Step 4. Preform the experiments described in the book for yourself

Step 5. Read the book "One hundred proofs the Earth is not a Globe" by William Carpenter

Step 6. Preform the experiments described in the book for yourself

Step 7. Read the back-issues of "Flat Earth News Quarterly"

Step 8. Preform the experiments described in the newsletters for yourself.

Step 9. Read the book "Flatland" by Edwin A. Abbott

Step 10. Come to the conclusion of a Flat Earth
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2007, 01:06:40 PM »
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Tom how do u know the Earth is flat?


As a conclusion from my own personal observations, experiments and scientific proofs.


I would like to see the outcomes of the experiments.


Step 1. Look outside your window

Step 2. Read the FAQ

Step 3. Read the book "Earth not a Globe" by Samuel Birley Rowbotham

Step 4. Preform the experiments described in the book for yourself

Step 5. Read the book "One hundred proofs the Earth is not a Globe" by William Carpenter

Step 6. Preform the experiments described in the book for yourself

Step 7. Read the back-issues of "Flat Earth News Quarterly"

Step 8. Preform the experiments described in the newsletters for yourself.

Step 9. Read the book "Flatland" by Edwin A. Abbott

Step 10. Come to the conclusion of a Flat Earth


What science degree did you graduate with?  and from what school was that?
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2007, 01:06:47 PM »
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Tom how do u know the Earth is flat?


As a conclusion from my own personal observations, experiments and scientific proofs.


I would like to see the outcomes of the experiments.


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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2007, 01:07:31 PM »
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Tom how do u know the Earth is flat?


As a conclusion from my own personal observations, experiments and scientific proofs.


I would like to see the outcomes of the experiments.


Step 1. Look outside your window

Step 2. Read the FAQ

Step 3. Read the book "Earth not a Globe" by Samuel Birley Rowbotham

Step 4. Preform the experiments described in the book for yourself



1. The Earth is MASSIVE. It's on such a wide scale it looks flat, and if you do look out in the flatlands, you CAN see a curve.

2. I read consprisy about 50 times. If thats what you telling me to do.

3. I'm reading it as we speak.

4. I'll get back to you on it.

Ok, take a turn try to explain WHY and HOW the Earth became flat.
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Tom Bishop

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« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2007, 01:11:54 PM »
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1. The Earth is MASSIVE. It's on such a wide scale it looks flat, and if you do look out in the flatlands, you CAN see a curve.


It sets a clear precedent for a flat earth. And no, RE curvature would be perfectly flat until at least 60,000 feet in altitude.

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Ok, take a turn try to explain WHY and HOW the Earth became flat.


Sheering and rotational forces in its early life.
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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2007, 01:13:43 PM »
Tom do you have a job that doesn't include serving others?
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2007, 01:15:03 PM »
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1. The Earth is MASSIVE. It's on such a wide scale it looks flat, and if you do look out in the flatlands, you CAN see a curve.


It sets a clear precedent for a flat earth. And no, curvature is ambiguous until at least 60,000 feet in altitude.


My only problem with this is that the ice wall is 150 feet and every FEer I've seen thinks thats where the world ends and space seems to begin.   So wouldn't that be space your speaking of tom? Not to mention those really high spots on the planet?
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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2007, 01:15:10 PM »
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1. The Earth is MASSIVE. It's on such a wide scale it looks flat, and if you do look out in the flatlands, you CAN see a curve.


It sets a clear precedent for a flat earth. And no, RE curvature would be perfectly flat until at least 60,000 feet in altitude.


I thought the Earth was flat, and had no curvature?
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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2007, 01:17:55 PM »
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My only problem with this is that the ice wall is 150 feet and every FEer I've seen thinks thats where the world ends and space seems to begin.


No, they don't.

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So wouldn't that be space your speaking of tom? Not to mention those really high spots on the planet?

 
"Space" doesn't begin until an altitude of 100 nautical miles. This is true for both models.

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I thought the Earth was flat, and had to curvature?


Notice how I used the phrase "RE model." Reading Comprehension.
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