Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?

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PlaneMaster

Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« on: February 17, 2007, 12:10:34 PM »
A plane is standing on runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in opposite direction).

The question is:

Will the plane take off or not? Will it be able to run up and take off?

Also what if the earth was round? Would it take off then?

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 12:11:52 PM »
Quote from: "PlaneMaster"
A plane is standing on runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in opposite direction).

The question is:

Will the plane take off or not? Will it be able to run up and take off?

Also what if the earth was round? Would it take off then?

1. No.
2. No.


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IkillU

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2007, 12:36:24 PM »
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "PlaneMaster"
A plane is standing on runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in opposite direction).

The question is:

Will the plane take off or not? Will it be able to run up and take off?

Also what if the earth was round? Would it take off then?

1. No.
2. No.


So I take it you dont believe in free spinning wheels then, huh?

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2007, 12:40:55 PM »
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Quote from: "PlaneMaster"
A plane is standing on runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in opposite direction).

The question is:

Will the plane take off or not? Will it be able to run up and take off?

Also what if the earth was round? Would it take off then?

1. No.
2. No.


So I take it you dont believe in free spinning wheels then, huh?

How would making the wheels turn on an airplane cause it to take off?


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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2007, 12:41:18 PM »
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So I take it you dont believe in free spinning wheels then, huh?

You are a fucking idiot. :roll:

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2007, 12:44:40 PM »
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So I take it you dont believe in free spinning wheels then, huh?

You are a fucking idiot. :roll:


I like your avatar. It is very hilarious.

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IkillU

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2007, 12:53:51 PM »
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So I take it you dont believe in free spinning wheels then, huh?

You are a fucking idiot. :roll:


I'm a fucking_idiot? Who the fuck_do you think you're fucken with?

You really need to be careful how you talk about me, i dont appreciate it. tone down the disrespect, i dont know where you're from but where i am from, we dont tolerate that. dont even reply to this, just keep your mouth shut. consider yourself warned.

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2007, 12:57:14 PM »
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I'm a fraking idiot? Who the fuck_do you think you're fucken with?

You really need to be careful how you talk about me, i dont appreciate it. tone down the disrespect, i dont know where you're from but where i am from, we dont tolerate that. dont even reply to this, just keep your mouth shut. consider yourself warned.

Ooooh, I bet all of the kids in your Elementary school are afraid of you. :roll:

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PlaneMaster

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2007, 01:00:05 PM »
Quote from: "TheEngineer"
Quote from: "IkillU"
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Quote from: "PlaneMaster"
A plane is standing on runway that can move (some sort of band conveyer). The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction. This conveyer has a control system that tracks the plane speed and tunes the speed of the conveyer to be exactly the same (but in opposite direction).

The question is:

Will the plane take off or not? Will it be able to run up and take off?

Also what if the earth was round? Would it take off then?

1. No.
2. No.


So I take it you dont believe in free spinning wheels then, huh?

How would making the wheels turn on an airplane cause it to take off?

Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2007, 01:00:58 PM »
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Ooooh, I bet all of the kids in your Elementary school are afraid of you. :roll:


FEers lack the ability to be funny.

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2007, 01:01:16 PM »
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Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

Uh, the airplane is not moving.


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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2007, 01:01:55 PM »
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Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

Yes, we all know how airplanes fly. But if the plane is standing still, there is no air traveling over its wings. :roll:

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IkillU

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2007, 01:02:27 PM »
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Quote from: "IkillU"
I'm a fraking idiot? Who the fuck_do you think you're fucken with?

You really need to be careful how you talk about me, i dont appreciate it. tone down the disrespect, i dont know where you're from but where i am from, we dont tolerate that. dont even reply to this, just keep your mouth shut. consider yourself warned.

Ooooh, I bet all of the kids in your Elementary school are afraid of you. :roll:


You started it motherfucker. Don't talk shit that you can't back up. I have close connections with several of the mods here and I can get your ip address from cheesejoff easily. you won't talk so tough when i'm at your front door with my right deltoid ramming towards your face.

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PlaneMaster

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2007, 01:02:46 PM »
Quote from: "Masterchief2219"
Quote from: "PlaneMaster"
Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

Yes, we all know how airplanes fly. But if the plane is standing still, there is no air traveling over its wings. :roll:

Why would the plane be standing still...

Plane moving <---
wheels spinning 2x as fast
conveir belt moving -->

plane takes off.

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2007, 01:06:58 PM »
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Quote from: "PlaneMaster"
Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

Yes, we all know how airplanes fly. But if the plane is standing still, there is no air traveling over its wings. :roll:

Why would the plane be standing still...

Plane moving <---
wheels spinning 2x as fast
conveir belt moving -->

plane takes off.

I misread your post.  I thought the plane was standing still, sorry.  So then, in either model, yes, the aircraft will take off.


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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2007, 01:08:34 PM »
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You started it motherfucker.

No, you started it. You can not be as stupid as you are and not expect people to make fun of you for it. :roll:

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Don't talk shit that you can't back up. I have close connections with several of the mods here and I can get your ip address from cheesejoff easily. you won't talk so tough when i'm at your front door with my right deltoid ramming towards your face.

Trust me, I am really scared. :lol:

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2007, 01:09:56 PM »
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The plane moves in one direction, while the conveyer moves in the opposite direction.

In this case the plane would be standing still.

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Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2007, 01:10:39 PM »
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IkillU

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2007, 01:18:32 PM »
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Trust me, I am really scared. :lol:


ok. if thats how you want it to be, your choice. do you honestly think i cant bribe cheesejoff for your ip adress? everyone has a price. im on 2 grams of test a week and a gram of tren. do this a couple months back, ok i mightve let it slide, now, someone so much as looks at me the wrong way and theres gonna be probs, lucky for me they always back the fuck down so i dont gotta get my hands dirty. i know youll try the same when shit hits the fan but dont think ill be so linient, cause i wont. dont say i didnt warn you.

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PlaneMaster

Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2007, 01:20:22 PM »
Quote from: "IkillU"
Quote from: "Masterchief2219"

Trust me, I am really scared. :lol:


ok. if thats how you want it to be, your choice. do you honestly think i cant bribe cheesejoff for your ip adress? everyone has a price. im on 2 grams of test a week and a gram of tren. do this a couple months back, ok i mightve let it slide, now, someone so much as looks at me the wrong way and theres gonna be probs, lucky for me they always back the frak down so i dont gotta get my hands dirty. i know youll try the same when shit hits the fan but dont think ill be so linient, cause i wont. dont say i didnt warn you.
:roll:

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2007, 01:23:03 PM »
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ok. if thats how you want it to be, your choice. do you honestly think i cant bribe cheesejoff for your ip adress? everyone has a price. im on 2 grams of test a week and a gram of tren. do this a couple months back, ok i mightve let it slide, now, someone so much as looks at me the wrong way and theres gonna be probs, lucky for me they always back the frak down so i dont gotta get my hands dirty. i know youll try the same when shit hits the fan but dont think ill be so linient, cause i wont. dont say i didnt warn you.

I look forward to seeing you. :D

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2007, 08:38:26 AM »
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ok. if thats how you want it to be, your choice. do you honestly think i cant bribe cheesejoff for your ip adress? everyone has a price. im on 2 grams of test a week and a gram of tren. do this a couple months back, ok i mightve let it slide, now, someone so much as looks at me the wrong way and theres gonna be probs, lucky for me they always back the frak down so i dont gotta get my hands dirty. i know youll try the same when shit hits the fan but dont think ill be so linient, cause i wont. dont say i didnt warn you.


Oh boy, threats of physical beatings on the internet, coupled with "knowing the mods".  Can't wait to see how this plays out :roll:.
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Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2007, 09:07:50 AM »
Hey i killu who is the douchebag in ur pic. He looks like a reject from the movie blow. Not the one about cocaine, the gay porno.

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Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2007, 02:39:20 PM »
I don't get this question at all. Also what the fuck has it got to do with the shape of the Earth? :/

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Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2007, 02:42:54 PM »
If the conveyor belt tracked and matched the speed of the plane's wheels, the plane would stand still until either the wheels or conveyor belt broke apart due to heat and friction.

The plane would crash into the ground at a standstill.

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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2007, 02:46:04 PM »
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Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

Yes, we all know how airplanes fly. But if the plane is standing still, there is no air traveling over its wings. :roll:

Why would the plane be standing still...

Plane moving <---
wheels spinning 2x as fast
conveir belt moving -->

plane takes off.

I misread your post.  I thought the plane was standing still, sorry.  So then, in either model, yes, the aircraft will take off.


Uhm the plane WOULDN'T be moving if the conveyor belt was moving against the wheels.

Plane's wheels are moving at a velocity of 100mph and the Conveyor is moving at a velocity of -100mph. The Plane's velocity would = 0 and take off would be impossible.
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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2007, 02:47:21 PM »
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Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

Uh, the airplane is not moving.

Uh, the conveyor belt would act on the wheels, not the thrust of the jet engines.  It would be like the plane were taking off without its wheels down, except it wouldn't fall.

If you were to put a car on a conveyor belt, yes that would keep the car in place because it's the wheels that cause the car to go forward.
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Kasroa Is Gone

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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2007, 02:47:34 PM »
This is a totally retarded question.

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« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2007, 02:48:57 PM »
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This is a totally retarded question.

I laugh every time I see it on a forum.
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Re: Plane on conveyor on a FE... Will it ever take off?
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2007, 02:50:16 PM »
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Why would the wheels even matter? The plane gets flying because of thrust and lift caused by wind moving over the wings... not because of its wheels, therefor it would take off.

Uh, the airplane is not moving.

Uh, the conveyor belt would act on the wheels, not the thrust of the jet engines.  It would be like the plane were taking off without its wheels down, except it wouldn't fall.

If you were to put a car on a conveyor belt, yes that would keep the car in place because it's the wheels that cause the car to go forward.


Jets start up.

Wheels start moving.

Conveyor belt reacts accordingly.

At best the jet would move forward 3-5 feet before the jets stop accelerating and then speed would be maintained.
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