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Quote from: geodetective on August 19, 2015, 11:06:53 PM

I'm a bit disappointed that no flat earther has answered my question. I don't want to know what they "would probably say", but I just want to know what their real answer is...

I think it's because the round earthers have already mentioned the answers that would likely be said by the flat earthers, thus answering will just prove the roundies right. So, sorry geodetective...

For this one, we roundies probably shouldn't say what the flat earthers would likely say, so flat earthers will at least try to answer?

The flat earthers,  either ignore the southern hemisphere flights,  some then claim they don't exist,  others like to point out that there is no official flat earth map.

I have been continuing to look into this matter, and it all seems a bit fishy to me. While the Qantas 28 flights are shown to be complete, the log history for the Qantas 27 flights generally tend to trail off and disappear. Note the following link:

http://i.imgur.com/zZrvzER.png

I also discovered this strangely exuberant propaganda starring none other than the late 33rd degree Freemason Ron Hubbard's poster child: John Travolta. It celebrates the wonder of this formerly illusive non-stop flight:

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These two flights also fail to show up on other tracking sites such as planefinder.net.

Although none of this added information provides definitive proof of anything, it does raise some red flags for me.

Yes, well, NASA is trying to keep their teleporter under wraps without which the flight time would be much longer. The pilots, crew and passengers don't seem to notice that they get teleported but trackers get all f&*ked up and John Travolta, gads how could they make that mistake! Might as well have chosen Red Skelton if he were still alive.

I have been continuing to look into this matter, and it all seems a bit fishy to me.

Oh, good. I'm glad that someone is finally looking into this seriously. 

While the Qantas 28 flights are shown to be complete, the log history for the Qantas 27 flights generally tend to trail off and disappear. Note the following link:

http://i.imgur.com/zZrvzER.png

How does FlightAware get its real-time tracking information over thousands of miles of freaking empty ocean to deliver to you for free?

How about buying or borrowing, say, $30 Casio and Timex watches, booking a Qantas 27 and 28 round trip (that won't be cheap, but consider what's at stake), and timing each flight using both watches? Maybe buy or borrow an old, but reasonably accurate, analog wristwatch, too, to keep the others "honest". That way, you'd have first hand, reliable information (unless, of course, that old analog wristwatch was in on the conspiracy). Get a window seat and also take a GPS with you if you can and airline policy allows you to use it during flight. Learn how to dump the GPS log and see the route and how it compares with the timing from your watch(es) and whatever FlightAware, et al. posts for your flight.

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These two flights also fail to show up on other tracking sites such as planefinder.net.

How do planefinder.net, etc. get their real-time information over thousands of miles of freaking empty ocean to deliver to you for free?

Although none of this added information provides definitive proof of anything, it does raise some red flags for me.

You're right about the lack of evidence for anything you claim.

Get off your butt and go investigate it if you're suspicious. All you're doing is sitting on your ass in front of a computer screen, probably within an easy walking distance to the fridge, and waiting for someone to hand you stuff for free so you can fabricate fairy tales about why they don't deliver, or what you don't understand. Doing some real investigation has the advantage of getting you out of your basement into the real world for a while, too.

On the other hand, it's much easier and far cheaper to take what you can get at no cost over the Internet and bark about what isn't simply handed to you, gratis.

You can usually track flights that are in range of ADS-B,   which is VHF,  once out of range of ADS-B if they don't have satellite ACARS facility then you will just get an estimated position. 

QF27 can be tracked,  but once past NZ ADS-B it reverts to estimated position.  http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=64074.msg1704867#msg1704867

There are moves afoot to make GPS ACARS tracking mandatory on all flights,  following the MH370 disappearance.

But mostly what you see on the free flight trackers,  is just ADS-B

 

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We're still willing to hear what you have to say about the topic under discussion if you care to answer the questions or add anything further. If you choose not to, or, more likely, cannot answer the questions or defend your position, that's OK with m. Evading the topic by pretending to be offended by challenges to your ideas is a pretty lame cop-out.