Where is the Ice Wall?

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Where is the Ice Wall?
« on: March 10, 2011, 06:08:47 PM »
Ok I keep reading that there is an "Ice Wall" that is on the edges of this "Flat Earth". I read that if you get close to this so called wall you would be killed? If this is true how is it that we know of this wall? Who ever saw it must of died because they got to close to see it.
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2011, 06:21:12 PM »
because the earth disc is accelerating at an amazing speed upward the "ice wall" is just a theory bust probably isn't real.

Master Lord Willmire's theory that Antarctica is a seperate continent is novel.
A minority of disc earth theory believers have thought that this is the ice wall,
but until tangible evidence can be determined, the ice wall is just theory and probably untrue.


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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2011, 06:24:19 PM »
Ok so if one was to travel to the edge of the world what would happen if they "weren't shot down"? Are all Flat Earthers afraid to attempt the travel? Two of you should go and one should hold a rope and pull you back if you "fall off the edge". Then your theory of the earth being flat would be true.

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2011, 06:30:19 PM »
because the earth disc is accelerating at an amazing speed upward the "ice wall" is just a theory bust probably isn't real.


If the earth was accelerating at an amazing speed upward wouldn't all the water want to flow out if this "ice wall" is not true? I would think that if a great force was pushing down on us that it would push the water off the sides. Unless we have a protective bubble that will stop the water from flowing. I guess thats where the "ice wall" comes from its our protective bubble. And every government doesnt want people trying to get to it so that someone will release all the water and kill the whole planet. I think i understand now.

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2011, 06:54:11 PM »
because the earth disc is accelerating at an amazing speed upward the "ice wall" is just a theory bust probably isn't real.

Also whats the theory on how waves on the beach work? If we were accelerating at an amazing speed upward then we shouldn't have waves that come in and out. They should only stay against this "ice wall". Also what stops this "ice wall" from melting? Why is it that it is colder where the "ice walls" are? Also what is stoping this amazing speed from ripping the sides off the world? I think i need a picture of a current flat earth model. So we can determine how think this rock is under us that it can stand this force.

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2011, 06:58:36 PM »
The region of the ice wall is farther from the path of the sun. Why would we have no waves with upward acceleration?
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2011, 07:18:27 PM »
The region of the ice wall is farther from the path of the sun. Why would we have no waves with upward acceleration?

Ok so the Sun only shoots us with with a direct path? More like a laser than a flash light? See a laser is a direct point. While a flash light has the light dispersed as it travels outward. How far way is the Sun from Earth? Must be really close for it not to cover all of earth. And would there be no light on the Ice wall? Or does heat not travel that from from the Sun?

If we are accelerating upwards then there must be force pushing down on us. Ok if there is a force pushing down the water should either be flat like ice or be pushed against something. How are waves formed because I think the moon is pulling on us causing the water to be pushed and pulled. But according to Flat Earthers they say the moon never moves just like the Sun never moves.

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2011, 07:35:45 PM »
Sun hits the lesser ice wall, but the heat in this region is substantially less than that at the equator. The sun is roughly 3000 miles above the earth.


As to the greater ice wall, if it exists, I have no idea how far rimward it may be. I could not say if this is in the perpetual darkness beyond the reach of the sun or closer to the hub.
Quote from: Earth: Not a Globe
How far the ice extends; how it terminates; and what exists beyond it, are questions to which no present human experience can reply. All we at present know is, that snow and hail, howling winds, and indescribable storms and hurricanes prevail; and that in every direction "human ingress is barred by unsealed escarpments of perpetual ice," extending farther than eye or telescope can penetrate, and becoming lost in gloom and darkness.


All these answers are in the FAQ thread and "Earth: Not a Globe."


I'm still not sure why you think waves do not exist. And the sun and moon do move, of course. I'm not sure where you're coming from.
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2011, 07:36:57 PM »
Where is the Ice Wall?
Rimwards aka "south".
Next!
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2011, 07:50:05 PM »
Sun hits the lesser ice wall, but the heat in this region is substantially less than that at the equator. The sun is roughly 3000 miles above the earth.

All these answers are in the FAQ thread and "Earth: Not a Globe."


I'm still not sure why you think waves do not exist. And the sun and moon do move, of course. I'm not sure where you're coming from.

Explain to me how waves in the ocean work. Because I believe that the moon is pushing and pulling them. Do you not believe the same?

Where is the Ice Wall?
Rimwards aka "south".
Next!

Ok if the "Ice Wall" is South what is stoping someone from going  East, North, or West? Why hasn't a Flat Earther gone to the edge to prove it?

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2011, 07:53:11 PM »
Explain to me how waves in the ocean work. Because I believe that the moon is pushing and pulling them. Do you not believe the same?
Wind.

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Ok if the "Ice Wall" is South what is stoping someone from going  East, North, or West? Why hasn't a Flat Earther gone to the edge to prove it?

Nothing. I think if you would take the time to read the FAQ you would realize this. If you have questions that aren't covered by the FAQ, please let me know.
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2011, 08:01:49 PM »
Nothing as in space or Nothing as in endless because everything has an end. If it is space would you be sucked out like a vacuum? You guys should get your own space program so you can send probes off the "side of the world". So you can actually come up with some real proof instead of fantasy. Do you guys have your own section of actually proven facts that support any of your "theories"? Ive been to the beach and not had any wind and I still see the waves.

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2011, 08:07:23 PM »
It's clear you've made no effort to read the FAQ or you wouldn't be asking the question. Nothing will stop you from going East-, west- or Northward because it is perfectly possible.
Waves may travel great distances. I suggest you take time to read further on the subject before asking again.
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2011, 08:19:52 PM »
I think its more that no one on this site has physical proof but everyone who doesn't believe you are lairs and must be making up everything they find. Every time someone tells you something that will prove you wrong you make up a stupid bs answer then you all believe each other. You should have an area with your physical proof not just theories, but physical proof. You don't because their is no poof just that everyone else in the world are liars. Not trying to sound hostile but I just don't understand how you believe in something with no proof just stories.

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2011, 08:24:10 PM »


 Perhaps you are the one mistaken?   :-\


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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 03:51:35 AM »
Ok lets say the sake of the argument that waves are only caused by wind..... Im guessing you also don't believe in tectonic plates? How do Tsunamis happen? Just a massive about of "wind" for no reason at all just decides to push a wave? When is the space program going to be launched for Flat Earthers?

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2011, 04:01:52 AM »
Why would he not believe in tectonic plates? ???
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 05:40:15 AM »
Wind could not possibly cause the tides. It isn't daily cyclic in nature A) and B) their is direct experimental evidence that shows wind patters could not cause the patter of the tides

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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2011, 05:41:42 AM »
Wind could not possibly cause the tides. It isn't daily cyclic in nature A) and B) their is direct experimental evidence that shows wind patters could not cause the patter of the tides

Who said wind causes tides ???
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2011, 05:46:44 AM »
I can't say for certain, but the OP might be confusing "waves" and "tides". ???
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2011, 12:14:07 AM »
Ok lets say the sake of the argument that waves are only caused by wind..... Im guessing you also don't believe in tectonic plates? How do Tsunamis happen? Just a massive about of "wind" for no reason at all just decides to push a wave? When is the space program going to be launched for Flat Earthers?

first of all sinister, please read the FAQ.  i did the same mistake as you, and i still feel like a noob

next Tsunamis are large waves caused by tectonic plate movement in which a large amount of water is displaced, causing a large fast wave that moves practically vertically in all directions outwards from the epicenter (my 8th grade science teacher's explanation)
normal waves on the beach are caused by wind, and becuase they are waves, it is possible you cant feel the wind, but the wave can travel from a distant point. waves are also different from tsunamis mainly due to waves haveing a "circular path" as it approaches the land. (not circular from top view, from side view)
and tides, not to be confused with waves, are when the water level rises becuase the moon's gravitational pull on the water.

and Flat Earthers do not believe in space travel
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Re: Where is the Ice Wall?
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2011, 09:46:10 AM »
because the earth disc is accelerating at an amazing speed upward the "ice wall" is just a theory bust probably isn't real.


If the earth was accelerating at an amazing speed upward wouldn't all the water want to flow out if this "ice wall" is not true? I would think that if a great force was pushing down on us that it would push the water off the sides. Unless we have a protective bubble that will stop the water from flowing. I guess thats where the "ice wall" comes from its our protective bubble. And every government doesnt want people trying to get to it so that someone will release all the water and kill the whole planet. I think i understand now.

First off no, Einstein showed that constant acceleration was indistinguishable from the effect of gravity.

I'm with you, I agree that the Earth is round, however, to put this into a frame of reference for you.

Take a bucket of water and swing it around in a circular path.  The rope provides tension toward the center and you always have a constant acceleration toward that center due to the rope constantly adjusting the tangential motion of the bucket inward so it follows a circular path.  (This is called centripetal acceleration)

The water does not get pressed out of the bucket due to some outside and unknown pressure, but instead it experiences a phenomena which is indistinguishable from gravity within the bucket and it does not flow out of the edges.

In Flat Earth Theory, and more importantly the concept of Universal Acceleration, the Earth is on a linear acceleration upward at a rate of 9.81 meters per second squared.  This causes an effect that perfectly replicates gravity as both you and I know it.