Iran general killed that ordered by Trump

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 02:23:57 PM

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 02:11:29 PM

And you must be confused about the policy of "you break it, you bought it".

Who would buy something broken?   

Someone who breaks things that don't belong to them (yet). 

What if the product is defective?

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 02:28:31 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 02:23:57 PM

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 02:11:29 PM

And you must be confused about the policy of "you break it, you bought it".

Who would buy something broken?   

Someone who breaks things that don't belong to them (yet). 

What if the product is defective?

You can take that up with the manufacturer after you provide proof of purchase.

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 02:41:25 PM

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 02:28:31 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 02:23:57 PM

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 02:11:29 PM

And you must be confused about the policy of "you break it, you bought it".

Who would buy something broken?   

Someone who breaks things that don't belong to them (yet). 

What if the product is defective?

You can take that up with the manufacturer after you provide proof of purchase.

Screw it, I'll just re-gift.   

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 11:31:18 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 04:09:56 AM

War with Iran would last 5 hours.

Isn't that what everyone one said about Afghanistan and Iraq?

You may be confusing breaking shit with knowing when to pack up and go home.

And you must be confused about the policy of "you break it, you bought it".

You break it, you bought it is illegal in most states.

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 02:11:29 PM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 01:47:52 PM

Quote from: markjo on January 11, 2020, 11:31:18 AM

Quote from: Bullwinkle on January 11, 2020, 04:09:56 AM

War with Iran would last 5 hours.

Isn't that what everyone one said about Afghanistan and Iraq?

You may be confusing breaking shit with knowing when to pack up and go home.

And you must be confused about the policy of "you break it, you bought it".

You break it, you bought it is illegal in most states.

But it does apply to countries that you invade.

Unless you hit it and quit it.

It’s matters to some. To stupid people like John Davis, Space Cowgirl, Crouton and boyster it may not matter.

Corrected. Management allows cheap trolls like you insult us, then wonder why I don't like them at all. Is it the best thing all you can, only to insult?

Interesting thread, I didn't know Iranians were protesting the govt https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1216252081029271557?s=20

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/uk-abandoning-trump-iran-us-withdraw-leadership-world-qassem-soleiman2020-1-2020-1

Looks like the UK is getting shitty with America's antics. America is losing its standing as a world leader and isolating itself. Well done Trump 

In remarkably outspoken comments, UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace said on Sunday that Trump’s isolationist foreign policy stance meant the UK was now looking for alternative allies around the world.

The UK threatens to tear up its defence alliance with the US after Trump’s Iran crisis triggers a rupture between the two countries.

UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace says that the UK is looking to forge stronger alliances with other international partners which share its priorities.

He says the US risks “[withdrawing] from its leadership” of the world under Trump.

Wallace also reveals Trump threatened to tear up its intelligence-sharing relationship with the UK.

I have a feeling the UK will start to change their tune once Trump starts threatening them with not going through with a post brexit trade deal.

To be fair to Trump though this is far from the first time that we've screwed over our allies and relied on our super power status to get them to let it go.

Trump's assertion that he would attack civilian settlements, and in fact war crimes, aimed at forcing Iranians to make mistakes. if Iran wants to do the same thing, it can say that it will attack the United States with drones. in this case, many civilian drones will be dropped as a result of many misunderstandings in the USA, which will give Iran an advantage in psychological warfare. but it is their fault that there is no wisdom in Iran.

they are certainly a deep-rooted civilization, but they make mistakes even in such a simple psychological war. Or conspiracy theorists were right, Khamenei hated general and agreed with the Americans to kill him.

Trump did make war crimes a campaign promise(I wish this were a joke or an exaggeration).  This is true.

However blame us on Iran accidentally blowing up a passenger aircraft is just a bit over the top.  Are we now to be blamed for every traffic fatality in Iran because they're so distracted by our aggression?

Trump's assertion that he would attack civilian settlements, and in fact war crimes, aimed at forcing Iranians to make mistakes.

It seems to me that not closing off their airspace when expecting retaliation for an attack was an unforced error on Iran's part.

if Iran wants to do the same thing, it can say that it will attack the United States with drones. in this case, many civilian drones will be dropped as a result of many misunderstandings in the USA, which will give Iran an advantage in psychological warfare. but it is their fault that there is no wisdom in Iran.

Iran has already been attacking American interests through various proxies (militias, terrorist groups, etc.) for many years.  I don't see how Iran can complain too much when Trump swats them on the nose for that every now and then.

they are certainly a deep-rooted civilization, but they make mistakes even in such a simple psychological war. Or conspiracy theorists were right, Khamenei hated general and agreed with the Americans to kill him.

Seeing as a number of Khamenei's victims were his own people, it's no wonder that the Iranian people might have some mixed feelings about his death and its aftermath.

If you had to express it in percentages: How much are the usa vs iran to blame for the plane that got shot down?

I'd personally go with 90% (iran) 10% (murica).



Edit: there is also an approx. chance of 27% that the cia (iran military insider) shot down the plane, to then blame iran for it.

I am almost convinced the Ruhani hated general and agreed with the Americans to kill him. Iran warned Americans two hours before the attack on the American base, to ensure that no one dies, not to sink a battleship more easily and sensitively, not to kill any senior Americans, and not to use the elements of psychological warfare, as I explained above, clearly proves that the murder was ordered to Americans.

Many commentators work in turkey think that the Khamanei planned it with Americans . but I'm not in that thought. The fact that the slogans were shouted against Khamanei in the protests proves that those who planned this work were not supporters of Khamanei. Some of the intelligence notes we received when he was first elected revealed that "Hasan Ruhani" was working for the United States. I think that part of his mission has started to work for the United States. it was a really complicated thing, and so I've studied all of it in a convincing way, taking into account a lot of issues, and I think what I finally found is behind the scenes.

This is almost decicive, either Ruhani or Khamanei helped Americans  to kill him. I believe Ruhani did it with Americans, not Khamanei.

Interesting thread, I didn't know Iranians were protesting the govt https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1216252081029271557?s=20

What he's saying isn't wrong, but I really dislike it when people acting like they're very concerned about people telling them what people in "their country" should do, even though they themselves probably haven't stepped foot in "their" country. Dude was born in Chicago. To be fair I don't know anything more about this guy so I don't know how far he takes it, but it's a general phenomenon that happens a lot, people act like they're mouthpieces for people in "their" countries when they never even lived there. We get it with Greeks too, I've seen many "Greek" people who were born in Canada or America or whatever having very strong opinions about what Greeks really want (and they're almost always extremely out of touch, most of them are more right wing than the average Greek and most of the rest are old style communists who vote for KKE because they think it still is what it was, as evidenced by polls). The reason "certain leftists" don't attack Iran for not letting Iranians protest is not because they love the Iranian government or because "grrr Trump bad and I don't care about anything else". It's because the dominant narrative is that since there are human rights abuses, they need to get bombed by outside forces to be saved. Truth is, we can't do much about the situation in Iran and the human rights abuses. The only thing an American could do about it is pressure their government to do something about it, except that already happens and it's terrible. All power to the protesters but honestly there is not a thing I can do to help them, and I'm not gonna go trashing the Iranian regime right now from where I am, it only builds consensus for more aggression. Anyone who does it is either not seeing the bigger picture or being disingenuous, idk which of the two groups he belongs, because I don't know him.

LILLEY: Trudeau effectively blames Trump for Iran shooting down plane




U.S. President Donald Trump talks with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during a North Atlantic Treaty Organization Plenary Session at the NATO summit in Watford, Britain, on Dec. 4, 2019. (Reuters)

“When we see rising tensions and conflict and military actions anywhere in the world, it is always innocents who get sideswiped,” Trudeau said in an exclusive interview with Global News.

While Trudeau didn’t specifically name the U.S. president in the clip of the interview released by Global, it has become a talking point of the liberal left that Donald Trump’s assasination of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani is the reason the airliner — with 57 Canadian citizens onboard — was shot down as it left Tehran last Wednesday.

When asked previously about Trump’s blame in the incident, Trudeau had sidestepped the question, saying it was one many would ask before turning back to discuss the loss felt by family members.

General Soleimani was the head of Iran’s Qud’s Force, a division of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and a banned terrorist group in Canada and other countries.

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Dog dies on Qantas flight

Did it know too much?  Was it witness to one of their atrocities?

Dog dies on Qantas flight

Did it know too much?  Was it witness to one of their atrocities?

The dog was likely an fbi agent.

Dog dies on Qantas flight

Did it know too much?  Was it witness to one of their atrocities?

Not sure what this has to do with Iran, but it's certainly evidence about Qantas's callous indifference to life

I would preferred that the crashing plane be Qantas instead of Ukrainian airlines. At least we knew those passengers would die anyway.

I would preferred that the crashing plane be Qantas instead of Ukrainian airlines. At least we knew those passengers would die anyway.

Your humanity knows no bounds.