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Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« on: January 02, 2020, 11:32:51 PM »
Supreme leader vows ‘severe revenge’ after US president orders Baghdad airport strike as part of ‘decisive defensive action’



Suleimani, who ran Iranian military operations in Iraq and Syria, was targeted while being driven from Baghdad airport by local allies from the Popular Mobilisation Units (PMU). The deputy head of the PMU, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandes, a close Suleimani associate, was also killed in the attack.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/03/baghdad-airport-iraq-attack-deaths-iran-us-tensions

This man has many sympathizers. especially his constant challenges to American policies increase of the public sympathy. I am also sympathetic to him. he was one of the few generals in this region to resist the massacres and genocide policies of America-Israel-ISIS-PKK-Alqaeda-Fetö alliance.

His murdering by an USA airstrike was not good for the oppressed people.

In the first place it is a terrorist act and cannot have an acceptable explanation. A country cannot kill another one's official 's general "because he thinks he will commit terrorist acts". this has no equivalent in international law. This is one of the biggest mistakes trump has ever made.

Americans might think that other countries, and especially Iran, in the first place, will ignore it, forgive it, because "Trump is a somewhat chameleon president." But the Iranians are vindictive and an ancient civilization depends on Persians. Persians Evaluate the causes and consequences of events together with background. This will give the necessary response to the serious mistake and the stress will increase seriously.

And there is no doubt that this murder will have a legal and physical price for the perpetrators. Iran is strong enough to do this, intelligent and also a psychopathic country.

The Americans once again proved to be nothing more than a simple, rude killer state. but the world is not the old world. We do not live in a world where America alone rules the world. Iran will surely make the Americans pay for this murder.

I recommend our American friends stay far to middle east and even North Africa for a while during the crisis will definitely emerge.
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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2020, 11:43:15 PM »
Okay wise.  Calm down.  Look, no one knows the middle east better than we do.  So I feel confident in predicting that the Iranians will realize that they've overstepped their bounds and will back down.  Most likely they'll have converted to Christianity by the end of the week.

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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2020, 11:50:08 PM »
Okay wise.  Calm down.  Look, no one knows the middle east better than we do.  So I feel confident in predicting that the Iranians will realize that they've overstepped their bounds and will back down.  Most likely they'll have converted to Christianity by the end of the week.

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You made me laught, sorry.  LMFAO! ;D

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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2020, 12:02:29 AM »
Okay wise.  Calm down.  Look, no one knows the middle east better than we do.  So I feel confident in predicting that the Iranians will realize that they've overstepped their bounds and will back down.  Most likely they'll have converted to Christianity by the end of the week.

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You made me laught, sorry.  LMFAO! ;D

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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2020, 12:20:09 AM »
Okay wise.  Calm down.  Look, no one knows the middle east better than we do.  So I feel confident in predicting that the Iranians will realize that they've overstepped their bounds and will back down.  Most likely they'll have converted to Christianity by the end of the week.

#MAGA!
You made me laught, sorry.  LMFAO! ;D

I shall print this post and hang it on my wall.

No one in secure after today. while sitting in my office, I am connecting to the security system and examine the IP cameras. They can even blow up the Trump Towers as a revenge.



Instead of airplanes they can place dynamite directly on the base of the building as a more convenient method. they are Iranians whose psychopathic. they're harmless when they're friends, but if you're enemies, they can do anything you can think of. I'm trembling with anger right now.
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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2020, 12:49:51 AM »


I've examined all their properties. SA is much more powerful in some issues, but there are also issues they are close to. especially in terms of verified sources, Iran will be in a much stronger in a long time war, while Iran will easily maintain its position while the United States will have a resource problem. If we consider that the sites that prepare this data are American sites, we can easily say that those datas belongs to USA may be a bit exaggerated, hence their power may be close actually, considering the war region will somewhere close to Iran and they have a great advantage of this, hence if these two countries conflict in this region, Iran will win it easily. Therefore, there is now no reason for them not to respond more strongly to this attack.
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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2020, 12:56:24 AM »
Flash news: "USA has urged their citizens to leave Iraq immediately"
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2020, 02:33:35 AM »
Flash news: "USA has urged their citizens to leave Iraq immediately"

I'd imagine Iran would be a bigger 'get out now' than Iraq.
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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 03:32:01 AM »
Iran Deploys F-14 Jets to Borders After Vowing to Avenge General Soleimani's Murder - Reports



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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2020, 03:46:34 AM »
“A more dangerous world:” Iran killing triggers global alarm

“We are waking up in a more dangerous world. Military escalation is always dangerous,” France’s deputy minister for foreign affairs, Amelie de Montchalin, said on RTL radio. “When such actions, such operations, take place, we see that escalation is underway.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-more-dangerous-world-iran-killing-triggers-global-alarm/2020/01/03/353a7bf6-2e13-11ea-bffe-020c88b3f120_story.html

France, Russia and China condemn slaying of Soleimani as a destabilizing act

Britain and France urge deescalation after US strike on Iranian general; Moscow blasts ‘adventurist step,’ praises Quds Force chief’s ‘devotion’ to Iran’s national interests

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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2020, 05:23:50 AM »
OK, I don't know what to think about this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/opinion/hypersonic-missiles.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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Moreover, hypersonics are a weaponized moral hazard for states with a taste for intervention, because they erase barriers to picking fights. Is an adversary building something that might be a weapons factory? Is there an individual in an unfriendly country who cannot be apprehended? What if the former commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, Qassem Soleimani, visits Baghdad for a meeting and you know the address? The temptations to use hypersonic missiles will be many.

This was written a day BEFORE the assassination. Is it a coincidence? Did the NYT know this would happen and they're just taunting us? Was it some sort of warning? What the fuck is this?
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2020, 05:31:41 AM »
OK, I don't know what to think about this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/opinion/hypersonic-missiles.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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Moreover, hypersonics are a weaponized moral hazard for states with a taste for intervention, because they erase barriers to picking fights. Is an adversary building something that might be a weapons factory? Is there an individual in an unfriendly country who cannot be apprehended? What if the former commander of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, Qassem Soleimani, visits Baghdad for a meeting and you know the address? The temptations to use hypersonic missiles will be many.

This was written a day BEFORE the assassination. Is it a coincidence? Did the NYT know this would happen and they're just taunting us? Was it some sort of warning? What the fuck is this?

similar articles are made on order. the news is usually prepared to convince the customer to buy the missile, then they try to convince the customer by told a name of the person to be killed and that person is convinced. however, Iran undermined this trade from the beginning by saying that the attack was made by helicopter. this is my opinion.
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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2020, 05:41:03 AM »
I guess Iran will start to bombard the American bases in Middle East. We have one great base in Adana. Adana - Incirlik base is USA's traditionally the center of the operations which  thousands of soldiers work in. If Iran hits it then we may find ourself in a surprise war. I hope Iran's reactions keep limited only in Syria, Israel and Iraq. Any of they can not dare to declare war to Iran but Turkey can. Hence we are on a real threatening.
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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2020, 05:59:11 AM »
Another possibility is Iran kill an American general as the principle of equality.
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2020, 06:12:51 AM »
Another possibility is Iran kill an American general as the principle of equality.
I don't think Iran is in a position to kill an American general right now. They're probably gonna try to launch missiles into a US military base or something like that.
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2020, 06:24:54 AM »
Why was a top Iranian in Iraq?
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2020, 06:33:02 AM »
Why was a top Iranian in Iraq?
Turdump. He is top evil.

Another possibility is Iran kill an American general as the principle of equality.
I don't think Iran is in a position to kill an American general right now. They're probably gonna try to launch missiles into a US military base or something like that.

they are obliged to give an equivalent answer. otherwise, it means that if you kill an important Iranian name, this action will go unpunished. in order to avoid this, they have to kill an important American. otherwise, Americans or other enemies constantly find new names to kill. hitting an ordinary Iranian base in the middle east is not the same as hitting an Iranian general. this is a matter of honor for them. They have to do it.
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2020, 07:37:11 AM »
they are obliged to give an equivalent answer. otherwise, it means that if you kill an important Iranian name, this action will go unpunished.
Isn't that the same excuse that Trump used for killing the general?
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2020, 09:09:47 AM »
they are obliged to give an equivalent answer. otherwise, it means that if you kill an important Iranian name, this action will go unpunished.
Isn't that the same excuse that Trump used for killing the general?
No.
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2020, 09:10:32 AM »
Why was a top Iranian in Iraq?
Is that question supposed to be dumb?
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2020, 09:38:20 AM »
No.
A couple months ago Trump was in Afghanistan. What was a top American doing in Afghanistan? Why are American bases full of "top Americans" all over Iraq?

Do you even know where Iraq is or what the situation in Iraq is? Why is it that mind boggling to you that an Iranian general would be in Iraq? Does it, in your opinion, justify provoking a war?
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2020, 09:57:38 AM »
No.
A couple months ago Trump was in Afghanistan. What was a top American doing in Afghanistan? Why are American bases full of "top Americans" all over Iraq?

Do you even know where Iraq is or what the situation in Iraq is? Why is it that mind boggling to you that an Iranian general would be in Iraq? Does it, in your opinion, justify provoking a war?

Its not mindboggling, just curious.  We have American generals in Aghanistan to support and oversee military operations in the area, conducted by US troops. 

I assume an Iranian General was in Iraq for the same reason: to oversee Iranian military operations in Iraq.  But... What operations?
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2020, 10:03:24 AM »
No.
A couple months ago Trump was in Afghanistan. What was a top American doing in Afghanistan? Why are American bases full of "top Americans" all over Iraq?

Do you even know where Iraq is or what the situation in Iraq is? Why is it that mind boggling to you that an Iranian general would be in Iraq? Does it, in your opinion, justify provoking a war?

Its not mindboggling, just curious.  We have American generals in Aghanistan to support and oversee military operations in the area, conducted by US troops. 

I assume an Iranian General was in Iraq for the same reason: to oversee Iranian military operations in Iraq.  But... What operations?

Up to no good.  I've heard he specializes in covert strikes against American targets.  Of course that's what the same people that keep lying to us about Afghanistan say.

Even if that were the case though it hardly seems like it's worth starting a war over.
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2020, 10:23:55 AM »
Well thanks to mad dog Trump, Russia will likely throw in support for Iran. They will not sit idle or neutral on this.

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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2020, 10:24:39 AM »
No.
A couple months ago Trump was in Afghanistan. What was a top American doing in Afghanistan? Why are American bases full of "top Americans" all over Iraq?

Do you even know where Iraq is or what the situation in Iraq is? Why is it that mind boggling to you that an Iranian general would be in Iraq? Does it, in your opinion, justify provoking a war?

Its not mindboggling, just curious.  We have American generals in Aghanistan to support and oversee military operations in the area, conducted by US troops. 

I assume an Iranian General was in Iraq for the same reason: to oversee Iranian military operations in Iraq.  But... What operations?

Up to no good.  I've heard he specializes in covert strikes against American targets.  Of course that's what the same people that keep lying to us about Afghanistan say.

Even if that were the case though it hardly seems like it's worth starting a war over.

The most concrete defense I heard is that he is behind the protests on the US Embassy and was going to escalate it and attack US diplomats.

But thats all they present.
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2020, 10:30:31 AM »
they are obliged to give an equivalent answer. otherwise, it means that if you kill an important Iranian name, this action will go unpunished.
Isn't that the same excuse that Trump used for killing the general?
No.
As I understand it, this was a retaliation to an attack on a US embassy which was supposedly conducted by Iranian forces, or at least forces with Iranian backing. This is a escalation of a tit-for-tat retaliation, but it's close enough to be within the same ball park of reactions.
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2020, 10:51:42 AM »
No.
A couple months ago Trump was in Afghanistan.
What was a top American doing in Afghanistan?

 
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Why are American bases full of "top Americans" all over Iraq?

Playing world police. The logical fallacy is not needed though.

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Do you even know where Iraq is or what the situation in Iraq is?
I can name all the counties in Asia. Thanks though.

Iraq forces are still fighting rebel groups. One is backed by Iran. See their dead leader. US has been there since 2003. I ask again, why was he there? You are a know it all. Who is Iran fighting in Iraq?


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Why is it that mind boggling to you that an Iranian general would be in Iraq? Does it, in your opinion, justify provoking a war?
They are considered terrorists. Iraq has its own government. If it wants an embassy or military base (like the US has in Saudi Arabia) then so be it. But these days we are not the terrorists, despite what you say. There are no rockets being shoot out of Idaho into Canada. We don’t have southerners shooting airplanes out of the sky and then retreating into Mexico.
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2020, 10:54:37 AM »
they are obliged to give an equivalent answer. otherwise, it means that if you kill an important Iranian name, this action will go unpunished.
Isn't that the same excuse that Trump used for killing the general?
No.
As I understand it, this was a retaliation to an attack on a US embassy which was supposedly conducted by Iranian forces, or at least forces with Iranian backing. This is a escalation of a tit-for-tat retaliation, but it's close enough to be within the same ball park of reactions.
An "attack", which was basically Iraqi protesters throwing stones at a US embassy. Apparently there's no fucking way an Iraqi would throw stones at a US embassy unless Iran made them to, and it's clearly in the same ballpark as bombing a top general and like 10 other people.
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Re: Iran general killed that ordered by Trump
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2020, 11:12:04 AM »
No.
A couple months ago Trump was in Afghanistan.
What was a top American doing in Afghanistan?

 
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Why are American bases full of "top Americans" all over Iraq?

Playing world police. The logical fallacy is not needed though.
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Do you even know where Iraq is or what the situation in Iraq is?
I can name all the counties in Asia. Thanks though.
Oh shit we got an international relations expert here.

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Iraq forces are still fighting rebel groups. One is backed by Iran. See their dead leader. US has been there since 2003. I ask again, why was he there? You are a know it all. Who is Iran fighting in Iraq?
Iraq had invaded Iran under Saddam Hussein and the support of the US. After Saddam pissed off the US and they invaded, they left Iran in shambles. The current government of Iraq is trying to collaborate with Iran. Why is any of that mind boggling?

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They are considered terrorists
Who is considered a terrorist by whom? Just because Trump decided the Iranian army is a terrorist organization it doesn't really have much bearing on anything.

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Iraq has its own government. If it wants an embassy or military base (like the US has in Saudi Arabia) then so be it. But these days we are not the terrorists, despite what you say.
Alright, so your point is that the US is allowed to have as much influence on foreign countries as they want, but Iran can't even talk to anyone because the US decided they are terrorists, despite the fact that it's the US that literally just performed a drone strike against them on foreign soil.

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There are no rockets being shoot out of Idaho into Canada. We don’t have southerners shooting airplanes out of the sky and then retreating into Mexico.
YOU LITERALLY JUST KILLED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WITH A DRONE IN A COUNTRY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD. THIS HAPPENED TODAY.

Fucking hell...
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