just a question

Firstly, I myself am not a flat Earth believer, and I only signed up here to ask one question. This isn't in any way intended to be rude, I am just looking for a better understanding of your beliefs!

Do you guys believe the other planets are flat too? I only hear people talk about Earth being flat, so then are the other 8 considered round to you, or are they also flat?

For now this is my only question, but who knows, maybe it'll raise more for me, thank you for your time! :~)

[Also I'm sorry if this question is stupid, but it just crossed my mind tonight, so I thought why not ask someone]

I really appreciate it.

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.
 When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?  Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.
 When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?  Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Well, yes, but the Earth is such a large mass and there is such a great distance between planets, that it wouldn't be noticeable. (I think)

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.

Also not challenging your beliefs... just want to hear your views...
Have you ever looked through a telescope? I mean, you've seen the pictures right? When you look through a telescope, those points of light look like... well like the pictures you've seen. I've seen the rings of Saturn (looks like a bright circle with an elipse running through it), and I've seen Jupiter (you can see the stripes, and you can see it's moons going around it). So when you say, "specks of light," do you mean to imply these details don't exist, or are you just sort of lumping these details into the "points of light" description?

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.

Also not challenging your beliefs... just want to hear your views...
Have you ever looked through a telescope? I mean, you've seen the pictures right? When you look through a telescope, those points of light look like... well like the pictures you've seen. I've seen the rings of Saturn (looks like a bright circle with an elipse running through it), and I've seen Jupiter (you can see the stripes, and you can see it's moons going around it). So when you say, "specks of light," do you mean to imply these details don't exist, or are you just sort of lumping these details into the "points of light" description?

I mean they are lights in the sky. Really there is no proof they are bodies flying at thousands and million miles per hour. Saturn is a light with rings and Jupiter is a light with stripes. According to modern theory everything is flying at astronomical speeds in all kinds of directions, but for thousands of years the the sky view remains constant with repeatable patterns of change. All while you feel totally motionless here on earth.

Hey thanks for the response!

I think it's totally understandable that the "points of light in the sky" explanation is good enough for you, and you prefer not to dig any deeper. All of us hits a limit where we can't (or won't) dig any deeper, so it's cool that you stop where you choose to stop.

One more question if you don't mind... "Could there be anything that would ever convince you that the Earth is round?"

When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?

You might want to forward this on to Space Cowgirl. She's apparently actually not seen anyone make that argument.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=76254.msg2067187#msg2067187

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.
 When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?  Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Hello! Thank you for the reply, I have a couple questions about this response.

If the Earth was flat, would it not still revolve around the Sun quickly? It would still go 67K mph, right? And we still need the Earth to rotate for our 24 hour days, and with how wide Earth's circumference is, it would need to move 1,000 mph.

I also have some questions about other planets being "specks of light". You can see they're round if you look in a telescope, from the "round Earther" point of view. So if you guys looked through a telescope and saw Mars, for example, you wouldn't consider it to be a planet like Earth, right?

I'm really interested in your thoughts because I've taken many astronomy courses in midde/high school, and am now taking one in college because I am going to be an astrophysicist, so everything you guys believe goes against everything I've learned for years. All the power to you though, much respect. And thank you for the reply, I appreciate it! Have a nice day :~)

I am just looking for a better understanding of your beliefs!

There is no consistent belief system (theory, model, call it what you will) among Flat Earthers, other than the known inhabited surface of the Earth is not (approximately) spherical in shape as commonly presented, but instead is (approximately) planar.

Some common disagreements of major points are:
Finite surface with ice wall holding ocean / Infinite in extent
Transparent dome holding air exists / doesn't exist
Stars and planets part of rotating celestial firmament / Or not
Gravity exists / Earth accelerates upward at 9.8 m s^-2

Good luck.

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.
 When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?  Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Hello! Thank you for the reply, I have a couple questions about this response.

If the Earth was flat, would it not still revolve around the Sun quickly? It would still go 67K mph, right? And we still need the Earth to rotate for our 24 hour days, and with how wide Earth's circumference is, it would need to move 1,000 mph.

I also have some questions about other planets being "specks of light". You can see they're round if you look in a telescope, from the "round Earther" point of view. So if you guys looked through a telescope and saw Mars, for example, you wouldn't consider it to be a planet like Earth, right?

I'm really interested in your thoughts because I've taken many astronomy courses in midde/high school, and am now taking one in college because I am going to be an astrophysicist, so everything you guys believe goes against everything I've learned for years. All the power to you though, much respect. And thank you for the reply, I appreciate it! Have a nice day :~)

The sun is a spotlight which circles above the Earth



And the Flat Earth as far as we know is the only flat body in the solar system. It's what makes us unique

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky.

Do you mean "just specks of light in the night time sky" like these?
These are all photos from amateur astronomers who have no particular interest in whether the earth is flat.
They believe the earth is a Globe simply because that is the only shape that fits what they can see with they own eyes - enhanced by their own telescopes.

They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.

Really? If "galaxies are a hoax", what is this?:

When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?

Sure, but 1000 mph or so at the equator is only 0.0007 rpm - big deal. And the nearest object in the night sky is the moon, about 239,000 miles away.
So the moon only appears to move at about half the angular speed of the hour hand of an analogue clock.
And when you claim that "the earth is flying at over 60,000 mph" that is relative to the sun, about 93,000,000 miles away.
But, in my neck-of-the-woods, I cannot see the sun "outside on a still night".
During a clear day, when I can see the sun, it also appears to move at about the half the angular speed of a clock.

So, I fail to see the problem - it's all a matter of perspective, that thing that you flat-earthers go on and on about.

Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Sure trust your eyes and

• believe that railway tracks get closer as they disappear into the distance,
• that distant hills move past the car much slower than the nearby trees and
• see that cars, ships and even people get smaller as they move away.

Again it's all a matter of perspective.

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky.

Do you mean "just specks of light in the night time sky" like these?

Photographer: [email protected] Location of photo: Ribeirao Preto, Brazil Date/Time of photo: June 21, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, Mars season 2016

Jupiter with GRS, Photographer: astrokn Location of photo: Osaka, Japan Date/Time of photo: 2018/04/22 01h16.1m (JST) Link: Sky and Telescope, Jupiter with GRS

Photographer: midnight8 Location of photo: My Driveway Orange, Texas Date/Time of photo: 07/07/2017 Link: Sky and Telescope, Saturn C9.25 telescope,

These are all photos from amateur astronomers who have no particular interest in whether the earth is flat.
They believe the earth is a Globe simply because that is the only shape that fits what they can see with they own eyes - enhanced by their own telescopes.

Quote from: hoppy

They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.

Really? If "galaxies are a hoax", what is this?:

Photographer: Craig & Tammy Temple Location of photo: Portland, TN, USA Date/Time of photo: August 29 & 30, 2016 and September 1, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, M31 – Andromeda Galaxy.

Quote from: hoppy

When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?

Sure, but 1000 mph or so at the equator is only 0.0007 rpm - big deal. And the nearest object in the night sky is the moon, about 239,000 miles away.
So the moon only appears to move at about half the angular speed of the hour hand of an analogue clock.
And when you claim that "the earth is flying at over 60,000 mph" that is relative to the sun, about 93,000,000 miles away.
But, in my neck-of-the-woods, I cannot see the sun "outside on a still night".
During a clear day, when I can see the sun, it also appears to move at about the half the angular speed of a clock.

So, I fail to see the problem - it's all a matter of perspective, that thing that you flat-earthers go on and on about.

Quote from: hoppy

Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Sure trust your eyes and

• believe that railway tracks get closer as they disappear into the distance,
• that distant hills move past the car much slower than the nearby trees and
• see that cars, ships and even people get smaller as they move away.

Again it's all a matter of perspective.

Why do stars appear like this if they are huge burning balls of nuclear fusion and burning gas. Why isn't this one solid as it should be, like the sun.

Quote from: rabinoz on June 07, 2018, 06:47:59 PM

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky.

Do you mean "just specks of light in the night time sky" like these?

Photographer: [email protected] Location of photo: Ribeirao Preto, Brazil Date/Time of photo: June 21, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, Mars season 2016

Jupiter with GRS, Photographer: astrokn Location of photo: Osaka, Japan Date/Time of photo: 2018/04/22 01h16.1m (JST) Link: Sky and Telescope, Jupiter with GRS

Photographer: midnight8 Location of photo: My Driveway Orange, Texas Date/Time of photo: 07/07/2017 Link: Sky and Telescope, Saturn C9.25 telescope,

These are all photos from amateur astronomers who have no particular interest in whether the earth is flat.
They believe the earth is a Globe simply because that is the only shape that fits what they can see with they own eyes - enhanced by their own telescopes.

Quote from: hoppy

They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.

Really? If "galaxies are a hoax", what is this?:

Photographer: Craig & Tammy Temple Location of photo: Portland, TN, USA Date/Time of photo: August 29 & 30, 2016 and September 1, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, M31 – Andromeda Galaxy.

Quote from: hoppy

When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?

Sure, but 1000 mph or so at the equator is only 0.0007 rpm - big deal. And the nearest object in the night sky is the moon, about 239,000 miles away.
So the moon only appears to move at about half the angular speed of the hour hand of an analogue clock.
And when you claim that "the earth is flying at over 60,000 mph" that is relative to the sun, about 93,000,000 miles away.
But, in my neck-of-the-woods, I cannot see the sun "outside on a still night".
During a clear day, when I can see the sun, it also appears to move at about the half the angular speed of a clock.

So, I fail to see the problem - it's all a matter of perspective, that thing that you flat-earthers go on and on about.

Quote from: hoppy

Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Sure trust your eyes and

• believe that railway tracks get closer as they disappear into the distance,
• that distant hills move past the car much slower than the nearby trees and
• see that cars, ships and even people get smaller as they move away.

Again it's all a matter of perspective.

Why do stars appear like this if they are huge burning balls of nuclear fusion and burning gas. Why isn't this one solid as it should be, like the sun.

The Sun is also a huge burning ball of nuclear fusion and burning gas! It isn't solid.

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:01:06 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on June 07, 2018, 06:47:59 PM

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky.

Do you mean "just specks of light in the night time sky" like these?

Photographer: [email protected] Location of photo: Ribeirao Preto, Brazil Date/Time of photo: June 21, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, Mars season 2016

Jupiter with GRS, Photographer: astrokn Location of photo: Osaka, Japan Date/Time of photo: 2018/04/22 01h16.1m (JST) Link: Sky and Telescope, Jupiter with GRS

Photographer: midnight8 Location of photo: My Driveway Orange, Texas Date/Time of photo: 07/07/2017 Link: Sky and Telescope, Saturn C9.25 telescope,

These are all photos from amateur astronomers who have no particular interest in whether the earth is flat.
They believe the earth is a Globe simply because that is the only shape that fits what they can see with they own eyes - enhanced by their own telescopes.

Quote from: hoppy

They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.

Really? If "galaxies are a hoax", what is this?:

Photographer: Craig & Tammy Temple Location of photo: Portland, TN, USA Date/Time of photo: August 29 & 30, 2016 and September 1, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, M31 – Andromeda Galaxy.

Quote from: hoppy

When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?

Sure, but 1000 mph or so at the equator is only 0.0007 rpm - big deal. And the nearest object in the night sky is the moon, about 239,000 miles away.
So the moon only appears to move at about half the angular speed of the hour hand of an analogue clock.
And when you claim that "the earth is flying at over 60,000 mph" that is relative to the sun, about 93,000,000 miles away.
But, in my neck-of-the-woods, I cannot see the sun "outside on a still night".
During a clear day, when I can see the sun, it also appears to move at about the half the angular speed of a clock.

So, I fail to see the problem - it's all a matter of perspective, that thing that you flat-earthers go on and on about.

Quote from: hoppy

Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Sure trust your eyes and

• believe that railway tracks get closer as they disappear into the distance,
• that distant hills move past the car much slower than the nearby trees and
• see that cars, ships and even people get smaller as they move away.

Again it's all a matter of perspective.

Why do stars appear like this if they are huge burning balls of nuclear fusion and burning gas. Why isn't this one solid as it should be, like the sun.

The Sun is also a huge burning ball of nuclear fusion and burning gas! It isn't solid.

I have never seen through the sun, have you?

Quote from: dani on June 08, 2018, 07:00:26 AM

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:01:06 PM

Quote from: rabinoz on June 07, 2018, 06:47:59 PM

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky.

Do you mean "just specks of light in the night time sky" like these?

Photographer: [email protected] Location of photo: Ribeirao Preto, Brazil Date/Time of photo: June 21, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, Mars season 2016

Jupiter with GRS, Photographer: astrokn Location of photo: Osaka, Japan Date/Time of photo: 2018/04/22 01h16.1m (JST) Link: Sky and Telescope, Jupiter with GRS

Photographer: midnight8 Location of photo: My Driveway Orange, Texas Date/Time of photo: 07/07/2017 Link: Sky and Telescope, Saturn C9.25 telescope,

These are all photos from amateur astronomers who have no particular interest in whether the earth is flat.
They believe the earth is a Globe simply because that is the only shape that fits what they can see with they own eyes - enhanced by their own telescopes.

Quote from: hoppy

They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.

Really? If "galaxies are a hoax", what is this?:

Photographer: Craig & Tammy Temple Location of photo: Portland, TN, USA Date/Time of photo: August 29 & 30, 2016 and September 1, 2016 Link: Sky and Telescope, M31 – Andromeda Galaxy.

Quote from: hoppy

When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?

Sure, but 1000 mph or so at the equator is only 0.0007 rpm - big deal. And the nearest object in the night sky is the moon, about 239,000 miles away.
So the moon only appears to move at about half the angular speed of the hour hand of an analogue clock.
And when you claim that "the earth is flying at over 60,000 mph" that is relative to the sun, about 93,000,000 miles away.
But, in my neck-of-the-woods, I cannot see the sun "outside on a still night".
During a clear day, when I can see the sun, it also appears to move at about the half the angular speed of a clock.

So, I fail to see the problem - it's all a matter of perspective, that thing that you flat-earthers go on and on about.

Quote from: hoppy

Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Sure trust your eyes and

• believe that railway tracks get closer as they disappear into the distance,
• that distant hills move past the car much slower than the nearby trees and
• see that cars, ships and even people get smaller as they move away.

Again it's all a matter of perspective.

Why do stars appear like this if they are huge burning balls of nuclear fusion and burning gas. Why isn't this one solid as it should be, like the sun.

The Sun is also a huge burning ball of nuclear fusion and burning gas! It isn't solid.

I have never seen through the sun, have you?

What makes you think you're seeing through that one?

Why do stars appear like this if they are huge burning balls of nuclear fusion and burning gas. Why isn't this one solid as it should be, like the sun.

Because the person who made that video doesn't know how to focus and/or use his equipment correctly.

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.
 When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?  Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Hello! Thank you for the reply, I have a couple questions about this response.

If the Earth was flat, would it not still revolve around the Sun quickly? It would still go 67K mph, right? And we still need the Earth to rotate for our 24 hour days, and with how wide Earth's circumference is, it would need to move 1,000 mph.

I also have some questions about other planets being "specks of light". You can see they're round if you look in a telescope, from the "round Earther" point of view. So if you guys looked through a telescope and saw Mars, for example, you wouldn't consider it to be a planet like Earth, right?

I'm really interested in your thoughts because I've taken many astronomy courses in midde/high school, and am now taking one in college because I am going to be an astrophysicist, so everything you guys believe goes against everything I've learned for years. All the power to you though, much respect. And thank you for the reply, I appreciate it! Have a nice day :~)

If the earth was flat, would the sun revolve in orbit around and above the earth (and act like a spotlight and shine only down on the earth and not on the moon) and the earth would stand still  in relation to the sun ?

If the earth was a sphere (or a globe) would the earth revolve in orbit around and far away from the sun and the sun would stand still in relation to the earth (and shine in all directions including on the earth and on the moon) ?

In your studies, I am reasonably certain you may have visited an astronomical observatory and looked though their telescopes and looked at the planets, etc. ?

If you haven't , I think you would find it an eye-opening experience . (If you will pardon the pun !)  LOL

I wonder , if we took a poll. :

(1)How many "flat earth believers" have ever visited an astronomical observatory ?
    (Or would it be an astroplanic observatory ?)

(2)How many "round earth believers" have ever visited an astronomical observatory ?


Some flat earth believer can correct me if I am wrong.:
But one flat earth belief I have read is that some flat earth believers say that the earth is flat and is covered by a solid dome ?
Some say it is made of water ?
Some say it is made of ice ?
Some say it is made of brass ?
Some say the stars and planets , etc. are specks of light from light coming through holes in the dome ?
Some say the sun and the moon revolve around just underneath  the dome ?

 
 

Quote from: dani on June 07, 2018, 03:13:07 PM

Quote from: hoppy on June 07, 2018, 07:56:50 AM

The other planets are just specks of light in the night time sky. They used to be called wondering stars. It is likely that planets galaxies are a hoax.
 When you go outside on a still night everything seems at peace. You sense no motion anywhere except the gentle movement of the heavens. Do you believe that you are spinning at 1000 mph, and the earth is flying at 60,000 mph, and on top of that everything else is moving at faster speeds?  Try to trust yourself and your experience rather than fantastic stories.

Hello! Thank you for the reply, I have a couple questions about this response.

If the Earth was flat, would it not still revolve around the Sun quickly? It would still go 67K mph, right? And we still need the Earth to rotate for our 24 hour days, and with how wide Earth's circumference is, it would need to move 1,000 mph.

I also have some questions about other planets being "specks of light". You can see they're round if you look in a telescope, from the "round Earther" point of view. So if you guys looked through a telescope and saw Mars, for example, you wouldn't consider it to be a planet like Earth, right?

I'm really interested in your thoughts because I've taken many astronomy courses in midde/high school, and am now taking one in college because I am going to be an astrophysicist, so everything you guys believe goes against everything I've learned for years. All the power to you though, much respect. And thank you for the reply, I appreciate it! Have a nice day :~)

The sun is a spotlight which circles above the Earth



And the Flat Earth as far as we know is the only flat body in the solar system. It's what makes us unique

The earth is "flat" because it is special" and "unique"
It is also the center of the universe.
Everything revolves around the earth.

Since the sun shines down on the earth only (it "acts like a spotlight") it doesn't shine any light on the moon.
Therefore, the moon is "self-illuminating" (it supplies its own light.)
This illumination is caused by "bio-illuminescent" creatures that inhabit the moon.
Some call them "moonshrimp....Some call them "moonshramp".
Phhases of the moon are caused by these creatures moving back and forth across the surface of the moon.

There is some disagreement in the size of the moon and its distance from the earth.
Some say the moon is 32 miles in diameter.
Some say the moon is 3,000 miles above the earth.

I'm just supplying this information from  I've read .
Paraphrasing Wiill Rogers, "All I know is what I read on the FES Website....And that's my excuse for ignorance."

(1)How many "flat earth believers" have ever visited an astronomical observatory ?

I have had a yearly membership at an observatory with worldwide name recognition for the past several years. I regularly engage staff with zetetic discussion.

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(1)How many "flat earth believers" have ever visited an astronomical observatory ?

I have had a yearly membership at an observatory with worldwide name recognition for the past several years. I regularly engage staff with zetetic disc3ussion.

I have visited the Palomar and  Mc Donald Observatories in the U.S.A.

I have visited Palomar twice when I was still wet behind the ears.


ETA:
As an aside, at my observatory visit in either December or January, I had a senior staff member intercede on behalf of FET when a younger member suggested the tides presented a logical difficulty for the model. His thorough deconstruction of the purely theoretical model everyone accepts as representative of tides helped me understand the subject a great deal.

Why do stars appear like this if they are huge burning balls of nuclear fusion and burning gas. Why isn't this one solid as it should be, like the sun.

They don't! Robert House doesn't know the first thing about photography - how to focus the camera.
Maybe he could read: Photograph the night sky with a Nikon. Nikon might know how to use their own cameras!

Then he might get photos like:But the photo on this site needs a lot of experience: Jack Swinden Jupiter at 800mm

More stars to gaze upon.



Planets in this video.

More stars to gaze upon.

Examples of an out-of-focus and in-focus telescope.

Planets in this video.

More examples of someone with a very good Nikon P900, but doesn't know how to use manual focusing.
Automatic focus will not work at all for star photos on any camera that I have seen.
With manual focus you can get good photos, but it's not that easy. If the moon fills a big part of images auto cameras focus OK.

I think this is a great reminder that some of us accept photos of the Eearth from space as totally real while others say they are fake.
And here we have a photo of a star that some of us accept while others say are in error.
If only there were some way to figure out what a star really does look like under magnification. I kid, but that's the only answer. You won't get any progress by just deciding real vs fake based on your gut. You need some critical thinking.
Taking our own photos of the Earth from space isn't really something we can do, but can we take a look at a star through a telescope? Yeah... I think before we judge these photos, we should look through a telescope. It shouldn't be too hard to find a telescope with as good or greater magnification than these cameras.

I'm really interested in your thoughts because I've taken many astronomy courses in midde/high school, and am now taking one in college because I am going to be an astrophysicist, so everything you guys believe goes against everything I've learned for years.

How many astronomy courses did you take in Jr. High?
How many in High School?

Are they really teaching you in MPH?

Quote from: dani on June 07, 2018, 03:13:07 PM

I'm really interested in your thoughts because I've taken many astronomy courses in midde/high school, and am now taking one in college because I am going to be an astrophysicist, so everything you guys believe goes against everything I've learned for years.

How many astronomy courses did you take in Jr. High?
How many in High School?

Are they really teaching you in MPH?

And, Mr Bullwinkle, did your astronomy courses teach that the sun, moon, planets and stars circled above the earth?
Did they also claim that the planets were "pretty small"?

Size and Magnitude
Q. How big are the planets in the FE model?
A. Pretty small.

How precise!