Evolution - Intellectual laziness?

The "input for all those billions of cell divisions, incl. specializations?" is food and the information contained in RNA/DNA. This information is what makes sure the "food" (monomers) turns into what is is supposed to. When this information makes mistakes, this results in mutations, which with the help of natural selection results in evolution

Speaking of seppuku... Is this really your understanding of the evolution theory? Are you seriously suggesting that if you eat too much tuna you will start breathing underwater or if you eat too much chicken wings you will grow wings and start flapping around? Ever heard of mad cow disease and why it happened? There are clear borders, limits and lines creation cannot cross which shows an undeniable and clear evidence for creation/design! Ever heard of vegan lion or vegetarian shark or bloodthirsty killer sheep in an uncorrupted, unadulterated, unaltered nature? Why don’t horses start eating chickens or cats instead of starving to death? It would be only logical, wouldn’t it?

We are not talking about an inflatable woman we are talking about a 1 mm fertilized human egg transforming into a 10 kg fully developed human child in 3 years. (Stop calling them kids, they are not goats!) " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> These are not just random cell divisions, there is an incredible precision, order and perfect timing in developing every tissue, organ and system. Heart starts to beat before the brain,  nobody can claim that the brain does everything! How do some bunch of cells „decide“ to form the heart suddenly? Simple truth is, nobody knows for sure. Some arrogant fools may pretend to know the answers but in reality they are as clueless as anybody else. Don’t tell me the magical formula DNA does everything, it’s only a blueprint. There is an absolutely majestic execution process you are totally ignoring. Even the best blueprint/plan fails if not executed correctly with precise timing. There is clearly something intelligent, invisible and perfectly obedient in charge of this execution. There is no factory that can compete with that. The Creator is telling us that He is the absolute Just-in-Time Master and the supreme planner. (So, never despair never lose hope! Just make sure that you are on the right path like Abraham, Moses and the son of Mary) 1eyed are too shallow to see any depth or meaning in anything. That’s the disease of our time. There is a reason why we are given exactly two eyes; not one, not three, not ten but two.

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Look at the evidence and tell me your verdict. Show me your true colors.

You are not much of an actor/player. Half of what I write is not for you.
There is no existence without a purpose and there is no action without a motive. If you cannot understand this simple principle then you have absolutely no chance of ever finding the truth.
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So you believe the Scole experiment?

Just want to point out that sharks are fish dolphins are not Ausgeoff

Edit: Apologies ausgeoff, missed the word like after fish.

No probs BJ1234   

The subtlety of this point will be lost on the flat earthers anyway.

Quote from: BJ1234 on November 05, 2014, 09:11:42 PM

Just want to point out that sharks are fish dolphins are not Ausgeoff

Edit: Apologies ausgeoff, missed the word like after fish.

No probs BJ1234   

The subtlety of this point will be lost on the flat earthers anyway.

Maybe he should learn to use comas? 

Maybe he should learn to use comas?

Coma:  noun—   a state of prolonged unconsciousness, including a lack of response to stimuli, from which it is impossible to rouse a person.

Please explain.

You know that was a slight typo, only missing one letter.  But, you know what I said. 

The "input for all those billions of cell divisions, incl. specializations?" is food and the information contained in RNA/DNA. This information is what makes sure the "food" (monomers) turns into what is is supposed to. When this information makes mistakes, this results in mutations, which with the help of natural selection results in evolution

Speaking of seppuku... Is this really your understanding of the evolution theory? Are you seriously suggesting that if you eat too much tuna you will start breathing underwater or if you eat too much chicken wings you will grow wings and start flapping around?

Mmm, sorry, science mistake, protein synthesis and digestion are unrelated. (You would have been able to correct me on this if you had ever taken a biology class in your life.) However, this does not change that fact that RNA/DNA is at least somewhat responsible for growth. This process has been observed many, many, many times and can be observed by any 7th grade science class conducting a lab.

There are clear borders, limits and lines creation cannot cross which shows an undeniable and clear evidence for creation/design!

The only reason they cannot cross said "borders" is simply due to the random chance they did not evolve in such a manner.

Ever heard of vegan lion or vegetarian shark or bloodthirsty killer sheep in an uncorrupted, unadulterated, unaltered nature? Why don’t horses start eating chickens or cats instead of starving to death? It would be only logical, wouldn’t it?

Why are you pretending you don't understand evolution after the countless times I have explained it to you? Animals cannot choose their evolutionary path! The real empirically proven reason why animals are they way they are in nature is not due to creation, but due to the fact they just happened to evolve that way.

We are not talking about an inflatable woman we are talking about a 1 mm fertilized human egg transforming into a 10 kg fully developed human child in 3 years. (Stop calling them kids, they are not goats!) " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"> These are not just random cell divisions, there is an incredible precision, order and perfect timing in developing every tissue, organ and system.

Precision which is coded for in DNA. All of it is coded into DNA. They code for enzymes that stop cell division, they code for what shape the organs will take, they code for everything. 

Heart starts to beat before the brain,  nobody can claim that the brain does everything!

Because no one does.

How do some bunch of cells „decide“ to form the heart suddenly? Simple truth is, nobody knows for sure.

Simple truth is that we do know. It's in DNA.

Some arrogant fools may pretend to know the answers but in reality they are as clueless as anybody else

We can fucking literally see it happen. We can literally fucking see RNA code for proteins which build the body. We can observe this happening, time and time and time and time and time and time again, happening by itself, with every living thing. Anybody with a good microscope can see it. The evidence doesn't get any stronger than that.

Don’t tell me the magical formula DNA does everything, it’s only a blueprint. There is an absolutely majestic execution process you are totally ignoring. Even the best blueprint/plan fails if not executed correctly with precise timing. There is clearly something intelligent, invisible and perfectly obedient in charge of this execution.

If this perfect intelligent force is behind the growth of all living things, why does it make mistakes? Mistakes that result in odd formations? Does this force intentionally disfigure innocent creatures? Why?

There is no factory that can compete with that. The Creator is telling us that He is the absolute Just-in-Time Master and the supreme planner. (So, never despair never lose hope! Just make sure that you are on the right path like Abraham, Moses and the son of Mary) 1eyed are too shallow to see any depth or meaning in anything. That’s the disease of our time. There is a reason why we are given exactly two eyes; not one, not three, not ten but two.

There is a reason and that reason is a inherited beneficial mutation. The Creator is not behind cell division and you cannot prove that the Creator is. We can, however, prove that it happens by itself, with no intervention.

>Insert long babble about conspiracy theory bullshit here.<

You are slightly insane. I see that now. But let me leave off with this. We see DNA replicate, proteins coded, cells divide, all these processes, every day, and in none of these things do we see any sign of intelligence. Why do you think that is? Why doesn't the Creator show himself if he is behind these apparently non-intelligent processes? Hm?

Another thing, I want you to do 2 things. Look into mainstream sources, examine the evidence they have, and more importantly, start questioning non-mainstream sources, start questioning if they have valid evidence for their claims. What often happens when people disagree on a topic is that one side tries to over-exaggerate "evidence" they feel destroys the others position, especially if they have no real case. A trend I see is that this happens more often with the sources you trust than with the sources I trust.

Another thing, I want you to do 2 things. Look into mainstream sources, examine the evidence they have, and more importantly, start questioning non-mainstream sources, start questioning if they have valid evidence for their claims. What often happens when people disagree on a topic is that one side tries to over-exaggerate "evidence" they feel destroys the others position, especially if they have no real case. A trend I see is that this happens more often with the sources you trust than with the sources I trust.

The problem with evidence and counter-evidence here is that we round earthers are the only ones presenting evidence validated by observation and replication, or physical experimentation.  On the other hand, flat earthers are—of necessity—limited to "thought experiments", such as the paradox of Schrödinger's cat.

And the conclusions of physical experiments trump those of thought experiments every time.

Drop foul language, I'm at the edge of my limits.

You were supposed to think critically and start asking some questions:

What kind of an „evolution expert“ witnesses all those 2000+ nuclear „experiments“ knowing that the radiation kills/disrupts/destroys/oppresses all creatures AND DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING? How many experiments do you need to test a „scientific discovery“? Who gave them the authority to conduct totally unnecessary 2000+ nuclear detonations?

Unless you are totally immune to radiation or you live in a „safe“ zone incl. one of the countless d.u.m.b.‘s (deep underground military base) avoiding GMO/chemtrails/nanobots (synthetic life forms), you are either truly evil or extremely dumb to ignore the obvious risks and threat Fukushima sabotage/disaster poses to your own existence. #" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">From Chemtrails to Pseudo-Life The Dark Agenda of Synthetic Biology (FULL LENGTH VIDEO) sofia smallstrom From Chemtrails to Pseudo-Life

You are a clear proof that there is in fact a devolution. What kind of an „intelligent“ creature ignores clear evidence, signs, warnings and runs towards his predator? Self deceit has no cure.

If you are really the end product of a billions of years of UNBROKEN CHAIN of evolution, supposedly having lived in the form of many different species and allegedly survived incredible adverse external conditions such as black holes, galactic collisions, meteor strikes, volcanoes, ice ages, droughts, floods, fire, savages, wars, predators... WITHOUT any proper shelter, heating, clothing, clean water, food, healing, medication... then why are you so incredibly weak and unintelligent? #" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">BRUTAL Broken Bones compilation 2012 #1 (+18) // TTV   #ws" class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Most stupid people Even if you stretch your imagination to the limits of absolute insanity (you not only have to assume the perfect combination of uninterrupted beneficial mutation chains but also the perfect external conditions to enable the whole process for billions of years) the probability of this happening is 1 in a trillion to the power of trillion or in other words, your theory is nothing but PURE FANTASY. You must have developed incredible survival skills, defense mechanisms and extreme weapons? Where are they? Can you demonstrate JUST ONE? Where is your superior intelligence? With all of your 3.5 billion years of cumulative experience and knowledge, how long do you think you can last if I drop you in the wilderness right now? Are you up for a little experiment?

What do you think science is? Do you lack the basic knowledge to answer a simple question: can aluminum cut through steel or not? Yes or no? This will determine whether you are fit for any kind of scientific discussion or not. If it’s too scientific for you here is a simpler one: How many planes hit the WTC7?

I told you not to go there... a simple life form requires minimum 200+ proteins to function (FACT!) It’s absolutely impossible for it to have developed itself step by step (FACT!) through mutations and randomness and chance and luck and stuff! Just because you are able to read a code, sign, symbol, script etc. doesn’t mean you can interpret and understand it correctly. Just tell me quickly... how do you regulate your blinking rate, body temperature, heart beat or breathing frequency? How do you separate O2 from air and distribute to all those trillions of cells in your body? How and when do you repair, replace, replicate, manage each and every cell? How do you separate useful/necessary substances in your food? How do you feed each and every cell and collect/get rid of their toxins/garbage? How do you know to vomit if you eat something rotten, poisonous or harmful? How do you identify intruders, enemies, illnesses and eliminate them? How do you keep all systems up and running when you go to sleep? How do you gather/sort/filter/record and pass your experiences, knowledge and wisdom to your progeny? Which one of these millions of tasks do you carry out yourself consciously?
The simple truth is, you are nothing but a passive bystander, spectator, viewer watching your own life passing by right in front of you. You have absolutely no authority in any part of your own body/existence except for the simple cruise control.

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Do you really believe that this could have happened by coincidence and random mutations?

If you are really the end product of a billions of years of UNBROKEN CHAIN of evolution, supposedly having lived in the form of many different species and allegedly survived incredible adverse external conditions such as black holes, galactic collisions,

The earth has never encountered these phenomena.

meteor strikes, volcanoes, ice ages, droughts, floods, fire, savages, wars, predators... WITHOUT any proper shelter, heating, clothing, clean water, food, healing, medication... then why are you so incredibly weak and unintelligent?

Compared to what?  How strong and intelligent are you assuming we need to be to survive.  Are strength and intelligence the only qualities that aid in survival?

Even if you stretch your imagination to the limits of absolute insanity (you not only have to assume the perfect combination of uninterrupted beneficial mutation chains but also the perfect external conditions to enable the whole process for billions of years) the probability of this happening is 1 in a trillion to the power of trillion or in other words, your theory is nothing but PURE FANTASY.

Please do not make up statistics.  This is a complete facbrication.

You must have developed incredible survival skills, defense mechanisms and extreme weapons?

That word, "must", why are these things a must?  The Earth is largely hospitable.   

Where are they? Can you demonstrate JUST ONE?

The biggest defense against calamity is breeding relatively quickly which we do.

Where is your superior intelligence?

Superior to what?  We have demonstrated an aptitude for applied abstraction and invention which outstrips every other animal on Earth by a wide margin.  How does that suit you?

With all of your 3.5 billion years of experience and knowledge, how long do you think you can last if I drop you in the wilderness right now? Are you up for a little experiment?

I did 3 days this summer.  Planning on 8 days next summer.

What do you think science is? Do you lack the basic knowledge to answer a simple question: can aluminum cut through steel or not? Yes or no? This will determine whether you are fit for any kind of scientific discussion or not. If it’s too scientific for you here is a simpler one: How many planes hit the WTC7?

You are losing the plot again. 

I told you not to go there... a simple life form requires minimum 200+ proteins to function (FACT!)

Citation required.

It’s absolutely impossible for it to have developed itself step by step (FACT!) through mutations and randomness and chance and luck and stuff!

Citation required.

Just because you are able to read a code, sign, symbol, script etc. doesn’t mean you can interpret and understand it correctly. Just tell me quickly... how do you regulate your blinking rate, body temperature, heart beat or breathing frequency? How do you separate O2 from air and distribute to all those trillions of cells in your body? How and when do you repair, replace, replicate, manage each and every cell? How do you separate useful/necessary substances in your food? How do you feed each and every cell and collect/get rid of their toxins/garbage? How do you know to vomit if you eat something rotten, poisonous or harmful? How do you identify intruders, enemies, illnesses and eliminate them? How do you keep all systems up and running when you go to sleep? How do you gather/sort/filter/record and pass your experiences, knowledge and wisdom to your progeny? Which one of these millions of tasks do you carry out yourself consciously?
The simple truth is, you are nothing but a passive bystander, spectator, viewer watching your own life passing by right in front of you. You have absolutely no authority in any part of your own body/existence except for the simple cruise control.

So what?

<bunch of pseudoscience>

*Yawn*

Do you really believe that this could have happened by coincidence and random mutations?

Yes I do.

Next?

The Golden Ratio, The Very Proof of Intelligent Design by our Creator!

This is yet another classic example of the bizarre logic of a god-botherer living in the 21st century.

Do you really believe that this could have happened by coincidence and random mutations?

Yes.  Coincidence is a remarkable thing ain't it?