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Which of these best describes your personal belief?

The earth is flat
13 (30.2%)
The earth is round(ish)
25 (58.1%)
I am agnostic and do not believe one theory over the over
5 (11.6%)

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Do you really believe the earth is flat?

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Rama Set

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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2013, 08:40:55 AM »
To be fair, it's very easy to say a conspiracy that has no evidence supporting it was not walloped.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2013, 08:43:10 AM »
Are you sure? Did you read to the end because even Sceptimatic admitted he would not accept the evidence that refutes the theory. Therefore he admits that his position is merely belief based, so in effect he has been forced to reject Zeteticism. So do you do the same, or will you accept the evidence that faking the live videos is essentially impossible?
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Quote from: sceptimatic on July 29, 2014, 06:00:17 AM
Giess what? I am a tin foil hat conspiracy lunatic who knows nothing... See what I'm getting at here?
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2013, 08:45:26 AM »
Quote from: Rama Set on April 05, 2013, 08:40:55 AM
To be fair, it's very easy to say a conspiracy that has no evidence supporting it was not walloped.

 ;D That's my point exactly, they either have to accept evidence against their theory, or deny it and abandon Zeteticism.
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Quote from: sceptimatic on July 29, 2014, 06:00:17 AM
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2013, 08:52:06 AM »
Quote from: Shmeggley on April 05, 2013, 08:43:10 AM
Are you sure? Did you read to the end because even Sceptimatic admitted he would not accept the evidence that refutes the theory. Therefore he admits that his position is merely belief based, so in effect he has been forced to reject Zeteticism. So do you do the same, or will you accept the evidence that faking the live videos is essentially impossible?
Sceptimatic is very vocal but mistaken in many of his thought processes.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2013, 09:00:23 AM »
Quote from: muggsybogues1 on April 05, 2013, 08:52:06 AM
Quote from: Shmeggley on April 05, 2013, 08:43:10 AM
Are you sure? Did you read to the end because even Sceptimatic admitted he would not accept the evidence that refutes the theory. Therefore he admits that his position is merely belief based, so in effect he has been forced to reject Zeteticism. So do you do the same, or will you accept the evidence that faking the live videos is essentially impossible?
Sceptimatic is very vocal but mistaken in many of his thought processes.

Truth!
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Shmeggley

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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2013, 09:04:24 AM »
Quote from: muggsybogues1 on April 05, 2013, 08:52:06 AM
Quote from: Shmeggley on April 05, 2013, 08:43:10 AM
Are you sure? Did you read to the end because even Sceptimatic admitted he would not accept the evidence that refutes the theory. Therefore he admits that his position is merely belief based, so in effect he has been forced to reject Zeteticism. So do you do the same, or will you accept the evidence that faking the live videos is essentially impossible?
Sceptimatic is very vocal but mistaken in many of his thought processes.

That's abundantly clear. ;D

But it doesn't answer my question - maybe better done in the appropriate thread.
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Quote from: sceptimatic on July 29, 2014, 06:00:17 AM
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #36 on: April 07, 2013, 10:38:50 PM »
Quote from: Googleotomy on April 04, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
I have suggested this before, but everyone should visit Mc Donald Observatory in Texas and attend a "Star Party." But  Flat Earther's be forewarned !  : You will of course  have to assume that Mc Donald Observatory is obviously just one more member of "The Round Earth Conspiracy."

http://www.utexas.edu/news/2008/02/07/mcdonald_teachers/

You're right, they have direct connection to the policy of globular indoctrination. The real money, of course, actually comes from the LRO project since 1969.


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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2013, 04:17:46 AM »
I'm also surprised that there aren't more "agnostics". Oh, that and the FE'ers have put little effort to jump on all their multi accounts to boost the stats further  ;)
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Quote from: Tausami on July 01, 2013, 12:31:58 PM
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #38 on: April 08, 2013, 04:28:14 AM »
Yeah it's surprising, I would have thought the agnostics would be higher too.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2013, 07:27:35 AM »
Nice poll
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2013, 03:35:48 PM »
Yeah now I'd just really like to know how many of those voting were being honest...
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2013, 06:48:36 PM »
I would imagine the earth more likely to be flat than round, but I am unsure.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2013, 06:50:09 PM »
Quote from: jason_85 on April 04, 2013, 04:53:23 AM
What is your opinion regarding its shape?
Maybe a disc ending at the ice wall, probably goes slightly after that. Or it could be infinite. - if it is flat.
Oblate spheroid. - if it is round.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2013, 06:54:07 PM by mbone99 »
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2013, 09:21:45 PM »
Agnostic, leaning away from the spherical model, not sure towards what. Possibly flat earth, possibly something even more obscure.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2013, 02:10:05 AM »
Quote from: jason_85 on April 22, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
Yeah now I'd just really like to know how many of those voting were being honest...

My instinct says that those who vote round earth or agnostic were being honest, however, I am not sure about the flat earthers.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2013, 02:22:29 AM »
Quote from: Rip Riley on April 22, 2013, 09:21:45 PM
Agnostic, leaning away from the spherical model, not sure towards what. Possibly flat earth, possibly something even more obscure.

What isn't cutting it for you? Do you feel like the round Earth theories don't add up?
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2013, 03:51:49 AM »
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 02:10:05 AM
Quote from: jason_85 on April 22, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
Yeah now I'd just really like to know how many of those voting were being honest...

My instinct says that those who vote round earth or agnostic were being honest, however, I am not sure about the flat earthers.

So FE'rs are liars now?
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2013, 04:34:51 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 23, 2013, 03:51:49 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 02:10:05 AM
Quote from: jason_85 on April 22, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
Yeah now I'd just really like to know how many of those voting were being honest...

My instinct says that those who vote round earth or agnostic were being honest, however, I am not sure about the flat earthers.

So FE'rs are liars now?

I believe that many FEers believe in RE and just play devil's advocate.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2013, 04:38:35 AM »
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 04:34:51 AM
Quote from: jroa on April 23, 2013, 03:51:49 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 02:10:05 AM
Quote from: jason_85 on April 22, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
Yeah now I'd just really like to know how many of those voting were being honest...

My instinct says that those who vote round earth or agnostic were being honest, however, I am not sure about the flat earthers.

So FE'rs are liars now?

I believe that many FEers believe in RE and just play devil's advocate.
To what end?  What would be the point?

Your denial is causing you to look for an out.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #49 on: April 23, 2013, 04:49:55 AM »
Quote from: jroa on April 23, 2013, 04:38:35 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 04:34:51 AM
Quote from: jroa on April 23, 2013, 03:51:49 AM
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 02:10:05 AM
Quote from: jason_85 on April 22, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
Yeah now I'd just really like to know how many of those voting were being honest...

My instinct says that those who vote round earth or agnostic were being honest, however, I am not sure about the flat earthers.

So FE'rs are liars now?

I believe that many FEers believe in RE and just play devil's advocate.
To what end?  What would be the point?

Your denial is causing you to look for an out.

What did I deny?
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Rama Set

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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #50 on: April 23, 2013, 04:58:26 AM »
He thinks your rationale is motivated by a denial of the FE.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #51 on: April 23, 2013, 05:07:20 AM »
incorrect. 
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #52 on: April 23, 2013, 05:11:34 AM »
Perhaps you should make yourself understood then.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #53 on: April 23, 2013, 05:18:14 AM »
Quote from: Rama Set on April 23, 2013, 04:58:26 AM
He thinks your rationale is motivated by a denial of the FE.

I can accept FE if the theory matches observation. So far, explanation given by FEers doesn't tally observation. It is easier to find contradiction in FET than in RET (if any). In many threads here, FET proponents are usually the first ones to abandon a discussion if cornered with questions too difficult to answer in FET context. So when they do that, it gives me the impression that actually sometimes these FET proponents do accept RET. Perhaps they just don't want to admit it publicly.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2013, 05:30:43 AM »
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 05:18:14 AM
Quote from: Rama Set on April 23, 2013, 04:58:26 AM
He thinks your rationale is motivated by a denial of the FE.

I can accept FE if the theory matches observation. So far, explanation given by FEers doesn't tally observation. It is easier to find contradiction in FET than in RET (if any). In many threads here, FET proponents are usually the first ones to abandon a discussion if cornered with questions too difficult to answer in FET context. So when they do that, it gives me the impression that actually sometimes these FET proponents do accept RET. Perhaps they just don't want to admit it publicly.

You are starting to question your beliefs.  That is fine.  Try to find holes to poke.  We will be here the RE'rs are not.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2013, 05:31:59 AM »
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 05:18:14 AM
Quote from: Rama Set on April 23, 2013, 04:58:26 AM
He thinks your rationale is motivated by a denial of the FE.

I can accept FE if the theory matches observation. So far, explanation given by FEers doesn't tally observation. It is easier to find contradiction in FET than in RET (if any). In many threads here, FET proponents are usually the first ones to abandon a discussion if cornered with questions too difficult to answer in FET context. So when they do that, it gives me the impression that actually sometimes these FET proponents do accept RET. Perhaps they just don't want to admit it publicly.

I can confirm this to be true.
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Re: Do you really believe the earth is flat?
« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2013, 05:05:57 PM »
Quote from: Cartesian on April 23, 2013, 05:18:14 AM
I can accept FE if the theory matches observation. So far, explanation given by FEers doesn't tally observation. It is easier to find contradiction in FET than in RET (if any).

Just wanted to add that, based on everything I have learned, there are absolutely no discovered contradictions in the conventional model of the earth. This is not an argument for or against RE theory, it's just something to point out. Any supposed contradiction is based on a misunderstanding of the model on the part of the observer.
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