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Flat Earth Q&A / England Win The Ashes

« on: September 19, 2005, 10:51:56 AM »

Wondered if that would trip you up. With Tottenham Court closed it can only be one end... think about it!

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Flat Earth Q&A / England Win The Ashes

« on: September 19, 2005, 05:17:02 AM »

Bank

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Flat Earth Q&A / England Win The Ashes

« on: September 18, 2005, 11:38:42 AM »

Fancy a game of Mornington Cresent?

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Flat Earth Q&A / England Win The Ashes

« on: September 16, 2005, 10:21:18 AM »

UK? You mean England.  

Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland have no interest in cricket.

Don't forget India, West Indies, Pakistan and New Zealand

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Flat Earth Q&A / England Win The Ashes

« on: September 13, 2005, 05:09:29 AM »

Nothing to do with the Flat Earth but fu*king great news.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Answer my question

« on: September 07, 2005, 05:15:05 AM »

If any politician came out and admitted the earth was flat you would say they were mad and they would never be elected again. So the reason for the cover-up is simple; those in the know have to keep quiet in order to retain power.

And I have posted this several times.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Does this fit with flat-earth theory?

« on: September 06, 2005, 05:24:08 AM »

The Onion is a satirical publication.

However, satire works by holding a mirror up to reality. In a way it is sad that the article is funny.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Does this fit with flat-earth theory?

« on: September 05, 2005, 05:05:45 AM »

I am concerned that the fabric of our universe is beginning to fray...

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512

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Flat Earth Q&A / So, how did you end up on this site?

« on: August 08, 2005, 11:19:40 AM »

Fu*k I thought it was all metaphorical.

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Announcements / Welcome to theflatearthsociety.org!

« on: August 07, 2005, 10:56:43 AM »

Just you wait 100 years, we'll see who's right.

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Technology, Science & Alt Science / Homeopathic Herbicide

« on: August 07, 2005, 08:02:45 AM »

The trouble with this idea is that when it rains all plantlife will be wiped off the face of the earth

Oh God what a fool I've been. Meddling with things I don't understand.

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Announcements / Forums announcements, suggestions, etc..

« on: August 07, 2005, 04:53:57 AM »

Maybe, to avoid confusion among the literal minded, the choices should be spherical earth and flat earth. But since there are so many advocates of the devil in each camp, perhaps it would serve no purpose at all.

His legal fees must be astronomical.

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Announcements / Welcome to theflatearthsociety.org!

« on: August 07, 2005, 04:48:35 AM »

As I have said elsewhere; if the Governments of the world revealled that the world was flat people would think they were mad and no-one would vote for them. They have to maintain the pretence in order to stay in power.

Why would people think the Government 'mad' for revealing the earth to be flat? Maybe because it is such a ridiculous idea? Would they not have proof?

And if it is so sensible for it to be flat, surely people wouldn't need much convincing?

Listen, pal. People have rioted and fought wars over less. Introduction of the Gregorian calandar - riots. Catholic vs. Protestant - wars. Believe me, letting this one out of the bag is just too dangerous. It ain't going to happen in my lifetime but that doesn't mean its not true.

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Flat Earth General / Why would an intelligent biologist........

« on: August 06, 2005, 07:35:33 AM »

Sorry to interrupt the family reunion but this link was put somewhere on this site. It is truely brilliant.  

http://www.venganza.org/

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Flat Earth General / Why would an intelligent biologist........

« on: August 05, 2005, 01:12:29 PM »

40 year old

I know who you mean. But he hasn't worn well has he?

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Flat Earth Q&A / alright I'll bite

« on: August 05, 2005, 11:32:46 AM »

With respect to the Bible? Nothing.

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Flat Earth General / Why would an intelligent biologist........

« on: August 05, 2005, 11:30:24 AM »

There is a botanical theme developing here. Sonchus arvensis, I bet we have a mutual friend.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Explain how it could possibly be flat

« on: August 04, 2005, 08:23:06 PM »

I don't use evidence to counter faith.  Heck, how many times on these forums have I said "If you believe the earth is flat based on faith, I don't have a problem with it"(though, you are still wrong  I just won't argue with you about it).  How many times have I said "It's where people assert that science is on their side that I have a problem with it"?
 I (and science) use evidence to best explain the world.
It isn't my fault that RELIGIOUS people find conflicts there.  But science itself makes NO claims about God.  Evolution is the typical example.  Religious people attack evolution to hell and back because they think it attacks their religion.
Well, evolution doesn't say anything about God.  If it happens to contradict this religion or that religion - hey, it's bound to happen.  There's lots of religions out there, and science probably contradicts a heck of a lot of them somewhere.  But it doesn't care about God, and it doesn't say a word about God.

Maybe it would be better to insist all religions had equal billing.

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The Lounge / Our president and intelligent design

« on: August 04, 2005, 08:16:23 PM »

Damn who cares how old a country is.

And I couldn't disagree with Bush more.  If you want to teach ID in schools, why not teach the dozens or hundreds of other creation myths in the world?  It isn't "evolution or creation" like they are on equal footing.  From a scientific point of view ID or the christian creation is no better off than the Greek pantheon.  This is why if you want to teach it in a religion class - fine.  But in a science class, no way in hell

Good point. I'm warming to you. Are you one of our colonial cousins?

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Flat Earth Q&A / alright I'll bite

« on: August 04, 2005, 08:10:45 PM »

Doesn't alter my position I'm afraid. You see, if you start being selective, on whatever grounds, then you create your own personalised version. I'm afraid that approach has led to a great deal of suffering over the years.

All or nothing.

So are you saying that all of those factors are not in fact true, or are you saying that everything the Bible says regardless of those factors is true?

I'm saying that if you base your faith on the word of God then you must accept the package. Otherwise your house is on shifting sand.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Explain how it could possibly be flat

« on: August 04, 2005, 08:04:47 PM »

bcampestris I don't disagree with much of your last post because you are leaving it in the realm of faith.  That's fine.  This part I disagree with though:

Yes, but you are adopting an unscientific position. You can't say something is 'wrong' or something else is a 'fact'. You might say that Creation Scientist's beliefs are inconsistent with available evidence, fair enough, but to start accusing people of ignorance or being 'just plain wrong' will shut down any hope of a debate.  

I can't say that Creation is wrong as a fact.  But I can say that Creation is unscientific, and that is a fact.  I can also say that anyone who claims they are doing science to support creation is flat out wrong - because they are not doing science.  This doesn't mean that creation is wrong, but it's simply not science.

So its this muddle between bases of belief... trouble is you can't use evidence to argue against faith nor faith to challenge evidence. Not if you want to avoid an unholy row.

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The Lounge / Our president and intelligent design

« on: August 04, 2005, 01:44:49 PM »

In that case, we should all shut up and start listening to Iraq...

Actually modern Iraq dates from 1932. It is a state younger even than yours.

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Flat Earth Q&A / alright I'll bite

« on: August 04, 2005, 12:23:38 PM »

What about GPS? It is a conspiracy?

No, its a system for telling you where you are on the surface of a flat earth. A conspiracy is where lots of people agree to work together secretly.

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The Lounge / Our president and intelligent design

« on: August 04, 2005, 11:50:47 AM »

Regardless of what country you are from, it will be a less prosperous, less powerful and less successful country than the one that Bush is leading.

The trouble with the prosperous and powerful is that they erroneously believe that this state of existence proves that they must be right in all manner of things and therefore have the right to impose their beliefs on others

Goes for teenagers too. See my previous post.

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The Lounge / Our president and intelligent design

« on: August 04, 2005, 10:54:46 AM »

Regardless of what country you are from, it will be a less prosperous, less powerful and less successful country than the one that Bush is leading.

When your country is as old as mine you can start talking. Until then remember, children should be seen, not heard.

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Announcements / Welcome to theflatearthsociety.org!

« on: August 04, 2005, 10:47:22 AM »

If the Earth is flat - as we must assume it to be, for obvious reasons - what are the governments of the world decieving us FOR? What perverse purpose can they have? And how the hell have they created such a sophisticated illusion as the 'round Earth'?

As I have said elsewhere; if the Governments of the world revealled that the world was flat people would think they were mad and no-one would vote for them. They have to maintain the pretence in order to stay in power.

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The Lounge / Our president and intelligent design

« on: August 04, 2005, 10:43:04 AM »

Without wishing to be rude or anything. Your president is possibly the most compelling evidence against intelligent design that I have ever seen.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Explain how it could possibly be flat

« on: August 04, 2005, 05:20:02 AM »

So just to clarify, are you saying the vast majority of Christians who believe any part of the Bible is anything other than the literal truth are just plain wrong? Are you saying they are not true Christians?

I am saying that if you base your faith on the word of God then you can't pick and choose.

Er, I don't think thats a mistake. I'd take it as red that if someone diagrees with me, they think I am wrong. As far as I can tell, I haven't ever been involved in a disagreement where I know the other person is right. Have you?

You must be a very difficult person to deal with if you believe you are always right.

This makes you no better than the Creation Scientists you seem to despise.

Ooh, do explain. And I don't think I could despise someone for thinking the world was created in 7 days. Intrigued, maybe.

Creationism is a faith. Fair enough, no problem.
However, it has no basis, relevance or bearing in science, and should not be promoted as such. This is a fact.

You said:

Creation scientists. Brilliant oxymoron there! I raise you 'Military Intelligence'. The fact that they do believe the earth was created in seven days clearly demonstrates their breathtaking lack of authority or knowlegde on any sort of scientific issue. Next.

Yes, but you are adopting an unscientific position. You can't say something is 'wrong' or something else is a 'fact'. You might say that Creation Scientist's beliefs are inconsistent with available evidence, fair enough, but to start accusing people of ignorance or being 'just plain wrong' will shut down any hope of a debate.  

OK, it tells us that. We shall agree there is no actual proof. You choose to believe it. I don't.

Do I, who said?

Which is why you have to believe it all - or none of it: its flat earth or nothing.

Which amounts to nothing but blind faith!

Echoing WTF's comments - there is nothing wrong with faith (in my opinion it is a fairly indefensible position to find umbrage with someones faith); what I don't understand is the constant need to 'legitimise' it in scientific terms in order to convince the 'non-believers'.

Just admit it is faith and only faith. :?

I don't think I ever said anything else.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Astronomers detect new flat planet being formed

« on: August 03, 2005, 11:59:12 PM »

Falling back on pedantry, I'm disappointed in you.

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Flat Earth Q&A / Explain how it could possibly be flat

« on: August 03, 2005, 11:54:47 PM »

Which is why you have to believe it all - or none of it: its flat earth or nothing.

Knock yourself out.  Just leave science out of it, and have enough "faith" in your beliefs to admit that science does not produce the same conclusion.
Seriously, all these religious people who clamour on about the Bible shouldn't care what science says.  If your faith is strong enough, you know deep down that science is wrong, no matter how strong the evidence is, correct?  So stop pretending that science doesn't disagree with you when it's so plainly obvious that it does.

Can we remember who knocked on who's door here.