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I've been meaning to post this for a while to explain to people the nature of reality and how it relates to globe earth and flat earth. Since this is a very deep subject and I will try to make it as brief as possible. First of all reality as we know it is nothing more than a collective thought manifesting into material world. What most people agree to believe and accept becomes their reality. The powers that run this world (call them illuminatti or whatever) know this and therefore follow specific plan to create the kind of reality they want. The biggest matrix of them all is globe earth. They present you with the idea of a globe since you are very little. But its not just indoctrination its way more than that. They have to make sure that everyone or at least the vast majority of world population accepts the globe. When majority have absolute faith that earth is a globe, the reality becomes such. Earth actually does become a globe. Yes this is how powerful human thoughts and collective consciousness is. Once again I will stress this strongly that the reality itself is a result of collective belief system. Without thoughts there is no physical reality. In Genesis chapter one it says "In the beginning was the word and the word was God" Here world actually means thought and this thought was God itself, its what created physical world.
The Flat earth is an awakening. it is an alternate reality. it is literally creating a new world. It is what the bible in Revelation calls new earth. it is a shift from the old globe matrix into a new wold, a parallel dimension so to speak. Once you accept flat earth there literally is no going back, you are free of the matrix, just like in the movie when a guy took a blue pill. Flat earth opens a door to a new reality and makes you see things very differently. So what exactly does it all mean? It means that the earth is multidimensional. This means that earth is both flat and round, and it all depends on you to what frequency and what reality you choose to tune into.
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So, why do you think those people are deceiving us?
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So what you are saying is that the earth is currently a round globe?
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When our collective thought can give the earth any form we want I would vote for a giant Hannah Cranston.
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I've been meaning to post this for a while to explain to people the nature of reality and how it relates to globe earth and flat earth. Since this is a very deep subject and I will try to make it as brief as possible. First of all reality as we know it is nothing more than a collective thought manifesting into material world. What most people agree to believe and accept becomes their reality. The powers that run this world (call them illuminatti or whatever) know this and therefore follow specific plan to create the kind of reality they want. The biggest matrix of them all is globe earth. They present you with the idea of a globe since you are very little. But its not just indoctrination its way more than that. They have to make sure that everyone or at least the vast majority of world population accepts the globe. When majority have absolute faith that earth is a globe, the reality becomes such. Earth actually does become a globe. Yes this is how powerful human thoughts and collective consciousness is. Once again I will stress this strongly that the reality itself is a result of collective belief system. Without thoughts there is no physical reality. In Genesis chapter one it says "In the beginning was the word and the word was God" Here world actually means thought and this thought was God itself, its what created physical world.
The Flat earth is an awakening. it is an alternate reality. it is literally creating a new world. It is what the bible in Revelation calls new earth. it is a shift from the old globe matrix into a new wold, a parallel dimension so to speak. Once you accept flat earth there literally is no going back, you are free of the matrix, just like in the movie when a guy took a blue pill. Flat earth opens a door to a new reality and makes you see things very differently. So what exactly does it all mean? It means that the earth is multidimensional. This means that earth is both flat and round, and it all depends on you to what frequency and what reality you choose to tune into.
I have to say this is one of the more interesting theories I have seen posted here. Philosophically, metaphysically I think there is some truth to this concept.
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Sounds neat!
..aside from that peaky evidence thing, an usual.
The reality is, we live on a rotating ball, orbiting a star, on just one of millions of galaxies That make up our universe.
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Let me answer some of the questions raised here; Those that control this world really love the globe and they want us to live on a round earth. Why? Mostly because round earth is limited in its size and serves somewhat as a prison. There is only so much you can explore only so much land and resources. Once you create the system of limitations, you can easily control the population. People become your subjects, ultimately servants. Flat earth is infinite, on a flat earth there is infinite land beyond Antarctica, you lose all control if you give people infinite earth. They don't want that. There also can be other reasons that I'm not aware of to keep the global reality in place.
Now do I say that this current earth is a globe? Yes and No. In its true creation the earth was never a globe, earth was made to be flat and infinite. In daily experience curvature is never observed and as I stated in my other post, all flight paths show that earth is not a globe. However because of the forced Matrix and because of collective consciousness that's been imposed on us, earth has become a globe. It is very hard to explain in words but yes even thou the original earth was indeed flat and the ancients knew that, today's earth is a globe due to collective thought. Now does the earth rotate or does it go around the sun and does it follow the heleocentric model taught to us in schools? No absolutely not. Even thou because of collective agreement earth can be viewed as a globe, heleocentrism is still very false.
When we accept flat earth we are creating another dimension. We are creating a parallel earth where its original shape is fully restored. We are going back to what the earth should be, before the round earth matrix was imposed on us. I believe that in the near future we will be able to make a physical leap to this new flat earth. It will be almost like opening a portal.
Now how do personally view infinite flat earth? Based on my own intuition and some of the research that I have done. Beyond Antarctica is an infinite ocean. This ocean contains endless amount of very large continents. They are island continents and this goes on forever.
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You say "absolutely not"...
Can you provide evidence? Everything fits the heliocentric model.
How are you imune to all this crazy indoctrination? We're you born with that #WOKE Gene?
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To me it make perfect sense. Actually earth is flat, but now it is round, but it isn't. So we must create a parallel earth, which is flat, instead of this round earth, which is also flat.
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Let me translate:
I've been meaning to post this for a while to explain to people the nature of reality and how it relates to globe earth and flat earth. Since this is a very deep subject and I will try to make it as brief as possible. First of all
In the personal uncorroborated opinion of New Earth! reality as we know it is nothing more than a collective thought manifesting into material world. What most people agree to believe and accept becomes their reality.
In the personal uncorroborated opinion of New Earth!The powers that run this world (call them illuminatti or whatever) know this and therefore follow specific plan to create the kind of reality they want.
In the personal uncorroborated opinion of New Earth!The biggest matrix of them all is globe earth. They present you with the idea of a globe since you are very little.
In the personal uncorroborated opinion of New Earth!But its not just indoctrination its way more than that. They have to make sure that everyone or at least the vast majority of world population accepts the globe. When majority have absolute faith that earth is a globe, the reality becomes such.
In the personal uncorroborated opinion of New Earth!Earth actually does become a globe.
Really? In the personal uncorroborated opinion of New Earth!Yes this is how powerful human thoughts and collective consciousness is. Once again I will stress this strongly that the reality itself is a result of collective belief system. Without thoughts there is no physical reality. In Genesis chapter one it says "In the beginning was the word and the word was God" Here world actually means thought and this thought was God itself, its what created physical world.
In the personal uncorroborated opinion of New Earth!The Flat earth is an awakening. it is an alternate reality. it is literally creating a new world. It is what the bible in Revelation calls new earth. it is a shift from the old globe matrix into a new wold, a parallel dimension so to speak. Once you accept flat earth there literally is no going back, you are free of the matrix, just like in the movie when a guy took a blue pill. Flat earth opens a door to a new reality and makes you see things very differently. So what exactly does it all mean? It means that the earth is multidimensional. This means that earth is both flat and round, and it all depends on you to what frequency and what reality you choose to tune into.
And this "them, illuminatti or whatever" have been around since when? Since 500 BC?
And your illuminatti have even infected every camera, every theodolite, every sextant, every marine gyroscopic compass, every ring laser gyroscope.
I have a simpler solution. Occam's Razor would indicate that someone else is infected, but I dare not suggest who!
You mean this earth is really flat?
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/0thzfx6itaxum1w/Scarborough%20Beacon%2050%20mm%20lens%20-%20cropped.jpg?dl=1)
From near sea-level, sure looks perfectly level. | | (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rcmu3djzvuhpz74/Curvature%20from%20Concorde.jpg?dl=1)
From Concorde, 50,000 ft, maybe a bit of a curve there. |
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/fcckeitocn1cucr/Losing%20Your%20Ride%20at%20121%2C000%20Feet%20-%20A%20Preview%20Indiana%20Caver%20at%200.17%20secs.jpg?dl=1)
Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - starting to look convincing!
From a Flat Earther's video. | | (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2wlf8boqqqqxsfl/Planet%20Earth%20seen%20from%20space%20-Full%20HD%201080p%29-ORIGINAL.jpg?dl=1)
That looks curved, from about 200 miles, must be ;D CGI ;D |
Not only does it look curved, but as Galileo is reputed to have said: "Eppur si muove. And yet it does move.
Referring to the Earth. Apocryphal saying (of doubtful authenticity). By legend, Galileo whispered this to himself as he rose from kneeling after making his abjuration of heliocentricity.."
(https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a012300/a012312/12312_Twitter_June2016.gif)
It sure doesn't look flat to me! And by the way, the earth does not measure flat either.
May I recommend a good optometrist?
Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
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I stated in my other post, all flight paths show that earth is not a globe.
That is total utter garbage.
If you believe the "Ice-Wall" sort of flat earth layout then all east-west flight paths prove your flat earth is ridiculous.
Pick any flat earth layout you like and some direct non-stop airline flight will blow it out of the water.
Please run away and learn a little bit about the Globe before you try to criticise it!
You are just another case of, "I don't understand the Heliocentric Globe and that proves the earth flat!".
No, it doesn't! All it proves is that you don't understand the Heliocentric Globe.
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Let me answer some of the questions raised here; Those that control this world really love the globe and they want us to live on a round earth. Why? Mostly because round earth is limited in its size and serves somewhat as a prison. There is only so much you can explore only so much land and resources. Once you create the system of limitations, you can easily control the population. People become your subjects, ultimately servants. Flat earth is infinite, on a flat earth there is infinite land beyond Antarctica, you lose all control if you give people infinite earth. They don't want that. There also can be other reasons that I'm not aware of to keep the global reality in place.
Wait, what? How big was the population when they announced that the earth is a globe?
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I've been meaning to post this for a while to explain to people the nature of reality and how it relates to globe earth and flat earth. Since this is a very deep subject and I will try to make it as brief as possible. First of all reality as we know it is nothing more than a collective thought manifesting into material world. What most people agree to believe and accept becomes their reality. The powers that run this world (call them illuminatti or whatever) know this and therefore follow specific plan to create the kind of reality they want. The biggest matrix of them all is globe earth. They present you with the idea of a globe since you are very little. But its not just indoctrination its way more than that. They have to make sure that everyone or at least the vast majority of world population accepts the globe. When majority have absolute faith that earth is a globe, the reality becomes such. Earth actually does become a globe. Yes this is how powerful human thoughts and collective consciousness is. Once again I will stress this strongly that the reality itself is a result of collective belief system. Without thoughts there is no physical reality. In Genesis chapter one it says "In the beginning was the word and the word was God" Here world actually means thought and this thought was God itself, its what created physical world.
The Flat earth is an awakening. it is an alternate reality. it is literally creating a new world. It is what the bible in Revelation calls new earth. it is a shift from the old globe matrix into a new wold, a parallel dimension so to speak. Once you accept flat earth there literally is no going back, you are free of the matrix, just like in the movie when a guy took a blue pill. Flat earth opens a door to a new reality and makes you see things very differently. So what exactly does it all mean? It means that the earth is multidimensional. This means that earth is both flat and round, and it all depends on you to what frequency and what reality you choose to tune into.
But just like a movie it is not real, neither is the flat Earth. multiple dimensions is a proposed theory that I do agree is a possible scenario but speculation about it is a bit mute until it can be tested and as there is no clear current way to pass to another dimension assuming they do exist there is no way to prove if the theory is true or not.
The flat Earth is not an awakening it is simply rejecting everything we know about out planet and throwing yourself back into the dark ages before most people could comprehend what we see is not all there is and our perceptions was not correct
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Let me answer some of the questions raised here; Those that control this world really love the globe and they want us to live on a round earth. Why? Mostly because round earth is limited in its size and serves somewhat as a prison. There is only so much you can explore only so much land and resources. Once you create the system of limitations, you can easily control the population. People become your subjects, ultimately servants. Flat earth is infinite, on a flat earth there is infinite land beyond Antarctica, you lose all control if you give people infinite earth. They don't want that. There also can be other reasons that I'm not aware of to keep the global reality in place.
Now do I say that this current earth is a globe? Yes and No. In its true creation the earth was never a globe, earth was made to be flat and infinite. In daily experience curvature is never observed and as I stated in my other post, all flight paths show that earth is not a globe. However because of the forced Matrix and because of collective consciousness that's been imposed on us, earth has become a globe. It is very hard to explain in words but yes even thou the original earth was indeed flat and the ancients knew that, today's earth is a globe due to collective thought. Now does the earth rotate or does it go around the sun and does it follow the heleocentric model taught to us in schools? No absolutely not. Even thou because of collective agreement earth can be viewed as a globe, heleocentrism is still very false.
When we accept flat earth we are creating another dimension. We are creating a parallel earth where its original shape is fully restored. We are going back to what the earth should be, before the round earth matrix was imposed on us. I believe that in the near future we will be able to make a physical leap to this new flat earth. It will be almost like opening a portal.
Now how do personally view infinite flat earth? Based on my own intuition and some of the research that I have done. Beyond Antarctica is an infinite ocean. This ocean contains endless amount of very large continents. They are island continents and this goes on forever.
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Again, interesting idea but you are contradicting yourself here.
You say the earth is currently a globe, due to this collective consciousness. Ok. Then you say all flight paths prove it to be flat. So which is it?
On that, you claim they only work on a flat earth but in fact they only work on a globe. The distances don't work at all on a flat earth and the routes don't make any sense.
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Instead of collective consciousness creating a flat earth, couldn't we all just choose to tune into a frequency where the illumanti transform into daddy long legs?
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Aaand once a flat earther is presented with evidence that challanges his delusions, he
a) Screams "na na na na I can't hear you" or
b) Bolts.
This fella seems to have chosen option b.
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I have to say this is one of the more interesting theories I have seen posted here. Philosophically, metaphysically I think there is some truth to this concept.
Presumably this is a typo, and you meant to say "What a load of shit"?
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I have to say this is one of the more interesting theories I have seen posted here. Philosophically, metaphysically I think there is some truth to this concept.
Presumably this is a typo, and you meant to say "What a load of shit"?
Darn auto-correct :)
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I knew that the brainwashed round earthers would jump all over this thread, but its OK. One thing I learned is that people that believe in conventional helecoentric model do not understand anything esoteric. Your earth is round only because you believe it to be round. In the bible Jesus said 'Faith can move mountains" this is a literal truth. When billions of people believe something absolutely without questioning, the very reality of things will change. This is exactly what happened to this earth. I will try to explain this again. When you accept the flat earth, you are not changing anything in this current reality, you simply getting yourself out of the Matrix of round earth. The majority of world population will always believe in round earth because unfortunately most humans are stupid, so as long as they believe in round earth they will stay in the Matrix, they will stay in this forced reality, they will stay asleep. Infinite flat earth is paradise. The original garden of Eden the pyramids of Egypt, and fabled kingdoms such as Atlantis was all part of the original flat earth before the Jesuits and the free Masons decided to change your reality.
You can keep believing what you want. But I know for a fact that flat earth is a new level of consciousness it is a separate reality. The current flat earth map is just an image its a rough draft made in this globe matrix reality. How do you expect an accurate flat earth map in this global Matrix? That's not gonna happen. Change the way you think, shake off the globe and visualize infinite flat earth, than you will find the truth. These so called dark ages were actually golden ages, we are in the dark ages now of idiots taking selfies with their iphones LOL
Enjoy the Globe kids.
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But I know for a fact that flat earth is a new level of consciousness it is a separate reality.
Then why are you constantly confusing it with THIS reality?
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I knew that the brainwashed round earthers would jump all over this thread, but its OK. One thing I learned is that people that believe in conventional helecoentric model do not understand anything esoteric. Your earth is round only because you believe it to be round. In the bible Jesus said 'Faith can move mountains" this is a literal truth. When billions of people believe something absolutely without questioning, the very reality of things will change. This is exactly what happened to this earth. I will try to explain this again. When you accept the flat earth, you are not changing anything in this current reality, you simply getting yourself out of the Matrix of round earth. The majority of world population will always believe in round earth because unfortunately most humans are stupid, so as long as they believe in round earth they will stay in the Matrix, they will stay in this forced reality, they will stay asleep. Infinite flat earth is paradise. The original garden of Eden the pyramids of Egypt, and fabled kingdoms such as Atlantis was all part of the original flat earth before the Jesuits and the free Masons decided to change your reality.
You can keep believing what you want. But I know for a fact that flat earth is a new level of consciousness it is a separate reality. The current flat earth map is just an image its a rough draft made in this globe matrix reality. How do you expect an accurate flat earth map in this global Matrix? That's not gonna happen. Change the way you think, shake off the globe and visualize infinite flat earth, than you will find the truth. These so called dark ages were actually golden ages, we are in the dark ages now of idiots taking selfies with their iphones LOL
Enjoy the Globe kids.
So the globe earth earth is the reality of now, but if everyone closes their eyes and wishes hard enough, flat earth could end up being real?
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I'm not confusing flat earth with this reality. You just don't understand the esoteric connection between the two. But that is not something I have to teach here.
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I'm not confusing flat earth with this reality. You just don't understand the esoteric connection between the two. But that is not something I have to teach here.
I know the "esoteric connection between the two". In one you travel with your body. In the other you travel with your soul.
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I knew that the brainwashed round earthers would jump all over this thread, but its OK. One thing I learned is that people that believe in conventional helecoentric model do not understand anything esoteric. Your earth is round only because you believe it to be round. In the bible Jesus said 'Faith can move mountains" this is a literal truth. When billions of people believe something absolutely without questioning, the very reality of things will change. This is exactly what happened to this earth. I will try to explain this again. When you accept the flat earth, you are not changing anything in this current reality, you simply getting yourself out of the Matrix of round earth. The majority of world population will always believe in round earth because unfortunately most humans are stupid, so as long as they believe in round earth they will stay in the Matrix, they will stay in this forced reality, they will stay asleep. Infinite flat earth is paradise. The original garden of Eden the pyramids of Egypt, and fabled kingdoms such as Atlantis was all part of the original flat earth before the Jesuits and the free Masons decided to change your reality.
You can keep believing what you want. But I know for a fact that flat earth is a new level of consciousness it is a separate reality. The current flat earth map is just an image its a rough draft made in this globe matrix reality. How do you expect an accurate flat earth map in this global Matrix? That's not gonna happen. Change the way you think, shake off the globe and visualize infinite flat earth, than you will find the truth. These so called dark ages were actually golden ages, we are in the dark ages now of idiots taking selfies with their iphones LOL
Enjoy the Globe kids.
So the globe earth earth is the reality of now, but if everyone closes their eyes and wishes hard enough, flat earth could end up being real?
No wishing for something is not what shapes reality. Absolute unquestionable faith does. The globe earth is accepted as absolute fact by billions of people. They cannot visualize or accept anything else, and this is when it becomes real.
The earth you are living on now is flat. Physically it was never a globe, it is only a globe in the matrix reality system that you are in. This is why no matter how high you go, you will never see any curvature.
Think of it this way (may be not the best example but it works) When you were a kid did you believe in Santa Clause or other fantastic beings? I know I did. To me Santa was as real as my parents, thus it was part of my unquestionable reality. Now when I believed in Santa did he really exist? No of course not. Same thing with the earth. Round earth does not physically exist, it only exists in the collective reality of most people, just like Santa exists in the reality of a child.
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If there is such a thing as a collective reality, then in what reality is the earth flat? The reality reality? Physical reality? In the reality where the earth is flat, is it because the people there have faith in it being flat similar to your Santa example? Could they adopt the faith that their flat earth is round? That would be cool - we could swap earth shapes between the realities with faith alone. Like a giant cosmic game of tennis.
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This himawari crap 3d ball earth, is just that, a 3d program such as google earth. Theres no satellite up there taking pics lol
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This himawari crap 3d ball earth, is just that, a 3d program such as google earth. Theres no satellite up there taking pics lol
So you went up there and verified this right?
or are you just using belief as evidence?
because you do or do not believe something does not make it right or wrong.
If you have actual proof then provide it otherwise should you not call it crap because it makes you look foolish
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If there is such a thing as a collective reality, then in what reality is the earth flat? The reality reality? Physical reality? In the reality where the earth is flat, is it because the people there have faith in it being flat similar to your Santa example? Could they adopt the faith that their flat earth is round? That would be cool - we could swap earth shapes between the realities with faith alone. Like a giant cosmic game of tennis.
Yes as a matter of fact there is a reality where people know that earth is flat and infinite. Our earth is also flat as I previously stated but people choose to believe in Santa. But its not just belief, its their fact of life that is not questioned. It is how the matrix works.
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This himawari crap 3d ball earth, is just that, a 3d program such as google earth. Theres no satellite up there taking pics lol
So how can I get a current photo, not more than half an hour old that shows the current clouds and storms, etc?
You talk a lot of unsubstantiated garbage!
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I have to say this is one of the more interesting theories I have seen posted here. Philosophically, metaphysically I think there is some truth to this concept.
Presumably this is a typo, and you meant to say "What a load of shit"?
No I really do find it interesting. I'm not saying it works but at least it's unique.
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So, you're saying there IS no spoon?
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I have to say this is one of the more interesting theories I have seen posted here. Philosophically, metaphysically I think there is some truth to this concept.
Presumably this is a typo, and you meant to say "What a load of shit"?
No I really do find it interesting. I'm not saying it works but at least it's unique.
You kind of are by saying "I think there is some truth to this concept."
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I have to say this is one of the more interesting theories I have seen posted here. Philosophically, metaphysically I think there is some truth to this concept.
Presumably this is a typo, and you meant to say "What a load of shit"?
No I really do find it interesting. I'm not saying it works but at least it's unique.
You kind of are by saying "I think there is some truth to this concept."
Phylisophically, metaphysically. The idea of creating your own reality isn't new I just don't think it extends to physically changing the shape of the earth. It's more of an internal thing.
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If you are going to research the ancient times you will realize that those times were not dark ages or primitive. The ancient times was a golden age, an age of advanced technology and high civilization. The show ancient aliens on History channel talks about ancient technology but attributes it to aliens from other planets. This is a big distortion from the truth. There was never any aliens but we humans did have flight and very advanced technology as far back as 12,000 years ago. The story of Atlantis is true. Egyptian pyramids is the last evidence of the ancient golden age. If you read Vedas of India you will also learn that ancient India was an extremely advanced society, possessing technologies such as Vimana Shastras, an ancient flying machine, interdimensional travel and even time travel. These ancient people were not apes or cavemen, they were much more advanced than us and they knew that earth was flat.
But here is what we learned in school; The ancient times were stupid, people were primitive and therefore they believed flat earth, I'm sorry brothers and sisters but it is a lie, they times of old were incredibly advanced. This is the main reason I believe in flat earth. I believe in flat earth because those men in legendary times of old believed it too. So I would rather trust the wisdom of Vedas and ancient Egypt, rather than Globe nerds in American universities. LOL
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Egyptian pyramids is the last evidence of the ancient golden age.
These ancient people were not apes or cavemen, they were much more advanced than us and they knew that earth was flat.
The Great Pyramid has overwhelming evidence it was built with the understanding the earth is a globe:
https://grahamhancock.com/creightons4/
Your assertion the ancients knew the earth is flat is based on what?
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The Great Pyramid has overwhelming evidence it was built with the understanding the earth is a globe:
https://grahamhancock.com/creightons4/
The article you provided is useless in corroborating your whimsical assertion.
Moreover, the authors have not done their homework when it comes to the Gizeh pyramid.
But I did.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1834389#msg1834389 (four consecutive messages)
The architects of the Great Pyramid had to use the arctangent infinite series in order to achieve the precise dimensions embedded in the construction.
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But here is what we learned in school; The ancient times were stupid, people were primitive and therefore they believed flat earth,
Were you even paying attention in school when you "learned" this? What I learned in school is that some of the ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, and others were brilliant scholars and thinkers who, among other things, made a damn accurate estimate of the circumference of the earth, which, based on observation and deduction, they already knew to be spherical.
I'm sorry brothers and sisters but it is a lie, they times of old were incredibly advanced. This is the main reason I believe in flat earth. I believe in flat earth because those men in legendary times of old believed it too. So I would rather trust the wisdom of Vedas and ancient Egypt, rather than Globe nerds in American universities.
Your argument that "everyone today is told that people in classical antiquity were so stupid they believed the earth was flat" is the lie. You're going to believe what you want, but many in those times knew the earth was not flat, and some had a good grasp of its size.
Maybe they were so incredibly advanced because youtube hadn't been invented yet.
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Circular BS, if the Round Earth is made up thanks to this "collective thought", then there's nothing stoping the bible, in wich you base how "things should be" of being also made up by this "collective thought".
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The Great Pyramid has overwhelming evidence it was built with the understanding the earth is a globe:
https://grahamhancock.com/creightons4/
The article you provided is useless in corroborating your whimsical assertion.
Moreover, the authors have not done their homework when it comes to the Gizeh pyramid.
But I did.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1834389#msg1834389 (four consecutive messages)
The architects of the Great Pyramid had to use the arctangent infinite series in order to achieve the precise dimensions embedded in the construction.
What was your conclusion?
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If you are going to research the ancient times you will realize that those times were not dark ages or primitive. The ancient times was a golden age, an age of advanced technology and high civilization. The show ancient aliens on History channel talks about ancient technology but attributes it to aliens from other planets. This is a big distortion from the truth. There was never any aliens but we humans did have flight and very advanced technology as far back as 12,000 years ago. The story of Atlantis is true. Egyptian pyramids is the last evidence of the ancient golden age. If you read Vedas of India you will also learn that ancient India was an extremely advanced society, possessing technologies such as Vimana Shastras, an ancient flying machine, interdimensional travel and even time travel. These ancient people were not apes or cavemen, they were much more advanced than us and they knew that earth was flat.
But here is what we learned in school; The ancient times were stupid, people were primitive and therefore they believed flat earth, I'm sorry brothers and sisters but it is a lie, they times of old were incredibly advanced. This is the main reason I believe in flat earth. I believe in flat earth because those men in legendary times of old believed it too. So I would rather trust the wisdom of Vedas and ancient Egypt, rather than Globe nerds in American universities. LOL
For a start the Egyptian's knew the Earth was not flat, are you having a laugh thinking they had time travel? You used sources which everyone knows is pure lies and tried to adapt it to reality which does not work. the only thing in your post that is true is they was not stupid and quite intelligent that's why they did know the Earth was a globe. Your post claims you believe FE because they did but that is incorrect so you really should accept the Earth is actually a globe by your own reasoning
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The architects of the Great Pyramid had to use the arctangent infinite series in order to achieve the precise dimensions embedded in the construction.
Firstly, one would not need "to use the arctangent infinite series" to obtain the finite precision "dimensions embedded in the construction".
No object can be constructed to "precise dimensions"!
Secondly, So what?
But, I give up!
You say ONE SACRED CUBIT = 0.6356621 meters
Then you equate "SIN 72.7 DEGREES" to "1.5 SACRED CUBITS"!
But, I could just as well write ONE SACRED CUBIT = 2.085506
But then "SIN 72.7 DEGREES most certainly IS NOT equal to 1.5 SACRED CUBITS"!
You cannot equate a dimensionless quantity to a quantity with the dimensions of length - that is totally meaningless.
Those ancient Egyptians knew nothing of metres or feet!
Like all your ramblings, it's just more gobbledygook and if you don't know what that means, look it up!
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But, I could just as well write ONE SACRED CUBIT = 2.085506
But you cannot.
The 0.63566 meters figure is part of the Gizeh Pyramid:
(http://www.aldokkan.com/photos/great_pyramid/30_great_pyramid.jpg)
The sacred cubit is designated in the form of a horseshoe projection, known as the "Boss" on the face of the Granite Leaf in the Ante-Chamber of the Pyramid. By application of this unit of measurement it was discovered to be subdivided into 25 equal parts known now as: Pyramid inches.
ONE SACRED CUBIT = 0.6356621 meters
Sin 72.7 degrees = 0.954760799503
0.954760799503/1.5 = 0.636507
72.7 / 2 = 36.35 = 100 - 100 sacred cubits
Go back now to my explanation for the several values which are possible for the sacred cubit, from 0.63636363, 0.6366019, 0.6356621 to 0.63666666:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1573684#msg1573684
You cannot equate a dimensionless quantity to a quantity with the dimensions of length - that is totally meaningless.
Not at all.
Sin 72.7 degrees = 1.5 x 0.6365
In turn we associate the value of 0.6366666 to that of a single sacred cubit.
Firstly, one would not need "to use the arctangent infinite series" to obtain the finite precision "dimensions embedded in the construction".
No object can be constructed to "precise dimensions"!
But it can.
The dimensions of the Gizeh pyramid are calculated to the very centimeter.
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1834389#msg1834389 (four consecutive messages)
The angle of the slope of the Pyramid’s outer casing is 51.855 degrees.
TAN 51.8554 DEGREES = TWO SACRED CUBITS = 1.27330478216 = 0.636652 x 2
In order to reach the value of 51.8554 degrees, the architects MUST have used the extended arctangent series to achieve the final result.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/1/a/6/1a65c25333063610ba7ca6aecd562356.png)
The other angle of the triangle, 38.145 degrees, is also closely related to the sacred cubit:
38.13 = 60 sacred cubits
Gizeh pyramid height:
5.247 + 136.1 + 7.2738= 148.621
Gizeh pyramid base/2 = 116.712
148.621/116.712 = 1.2733977 = 2 x 0.6366 = 2 x TWO SACRED CUBITS
It has to be calculated to the very degree, minute, second, in order for the extremely precise measurements of the pyramid to be fulfilled to the very centimeter.
TAN X = 1.2733977
The architects had to solve for X.
Then, you have four choices at your disposal, listed right here:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1835342#msg1835342
All of these four choices necessitate the use of advanced mathematics, especially mathematical analysis.
So yes, you do need the arctangent series to calculate the value of the desired angle.
Moreover, the value of the other angle of the triangle equals 60 sacred cubits.
The concept of radian measure, as opposed to the degree of an angle, is normally credited to Roger Cotes in 1714. He had the radian in everything but name, and he recognized its naturalness as a unit of angular measure.
(http://www.touregypt.net/images/touregypt/greatpyramid3-19.jpg)
QUEEN’S CHAMBER NICHE, FIRST SECTION
w = 1.568 m
h = 1.743 m
l = 1.0414 m
QUEEN’S CHAMBER NICHE, SECOND SECTION
w = 1.34 m
h = 0.87266 m (Π/360 = 0.0087266)
l = 1.0414
QUEEN’S CHAMBER NICHE, THIRD SECTION
w = 1.062 m
h = 0.69733 m
l = 1.0414 m
QUEEN’S CHAMBER NICHE, FOURTH SECTION
w = 0.773
h = 0.69733
l = 1.0414
QUEEN’S CHAMBER NICHE, FIFTH SECTION
w = 0.5156
h = 0.69733
l = 1.0414
Π/360 = 0.0087266
Π/450 = 0.0069813
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But, I could just as well write ONE SACRED CUBIT = 2.085506
But you cannot.
Yes i can! Let me add one word to that! "But, I could just as well write ONE SACRED CUBIT = 2.085506 feet."
The 0.63566 meters figure is part of the Gizeh Pyramid:
Those ancient Egyptians knew nothing of metres or feet!
And the values you use are by no means exact anyway. You claim:
ONE SACRED CUBIT = 0.6356621 meters
Sin 72.7 degrees = 0.954760799503
0.954760799503/1.5 = 0.636507
Go back now to my explanation for the several values which are possible for the sacred cubit, from 0.63636363, 0.6366019, 0.6356621 to 0.63666666:
And 0.636507 is by no means exactly any of {0.63636363, 0.6366019, 0.6356621 to 0.63666666:}
Just because the sacred cubit expressed in metres, that the ancient Egyptians knew nothing about, is close to some other number, you think that there is something magical about it.
Prove that those Egyptians knew about metres and you might get somewhere.
Now if you realised that one metre is 1/40,000,000 of the circumference of the Globe, you might get even further.
Firstly, one would not need "to use the arctangent infinite series" to obtain the finite precision "dimensions embedded in the construction".
No object can be constructed to "precise dimensions"!
But it can.
The dimensions of the Gizeh pyramid are calculated to the very centimeter.
But "to the very centimeter" is by no means to "precise dimensions". You claimed that they needed the infinite series for arctan x. My point was that they may have a very good approximation, but not the infinite series.
And you keep doing this, equating things of different dimensions and it is meaningless!
TAN 51.8554 DEGREES = TWO SACRED CUBITS = 1.27330478216 = 0.636652 x 2
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38.13 (degrees) = 60 sacred cubits
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h = 0.87266 m (Π/360 = 0.0087266)
So prove that the ancient Egyptians knew about metres or admit that all these coincidences are just that, coincidences!
And what evidence have you that they actually measured angles and did not just use the tangent - opposite and adjacent or height and distance.
In other words, they may never have needed to calculate arctan x.
Nevertheless, I don't dispute that the ancient Egyptians had some sophisticated mathematics.
I was just pointing out that your equating a dimensionless number (sin x to something with the dimensions of length.
That, in itself, is meaningless unless you can somehow get your dimensions to match.
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You need to update your knowledge of history: the Egyptians did not build the Gizeh pyramid.
They ackowledged it themselves.
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Dr. Anatoly Fomenko has dated the Denderah zodiac and these are the correct figures:
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/freebooks/history/Zodiacs.html
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/freebooks/history/timeline.html
Let us summarize the dates obtained for the Egyptian
zodiacs:
1. Round Denderah Zodiac (DR): the morning of March
20, 1185 A.D.
2. Long Denderah Zodiac (DL): April 22-26, 1168 A.D.
3. Big Esna Zodiac (EB): March 31-April 3, 1394 A.D.
4. Small Esna Zodiac (EM): May 6-8, 1404 A.D.
5. Athribis Zodiacs of Flinders Petrie:
Upper Athribis Zodiac (AV): May 15-16, 1230
A.D.
Lower Athribis Zodiac (AN): February 9-10, 1268
A.D.
6. Brugsch's Zodiac (BR) containing three main horoscopes,
each of them showing different date:
Demotic Horoscope: November 18, 1861 A.D.
Horoscope withoutWalking Sticks: October 6-7,
1841 A.D.
Horoscope in Boats: February 15, 1853 A.D.
7. Thebes zodiac of Ramses VII (OU): September 5-8,
1182 A.D.
8. Petosiris Zodiacs (P1) and (P2):
First Solution:
Outer Petosiris Zodiac (P1): August 5, 1227 A.D.
Inner Petosiris Zodiac (P2): March 24-25, 1240
A.D.
Second Solution (conditional for (P2)):
Outer Petosiris Zodiac (P1): August 10, 1430 A.D.
Inner Petosiris Zodiac (P2): April 17, 1477 A.D.
Third Solution:
Outer Petosiris Zodiac (P1): August 2, 1667 A.D.
Inner Petosiris Zodiac (P2): April 2, 1714 A.D.
9. Ramses VI Zodiac (RS):
First Solution: February 4-5, 1289 A.D.
Second Solution: February 20-21, 1586 A.D.
Notice that, although there are three final solutions possible
dates for the Petosiris zodiacs, all of them are late medieval
dates.
It is estimated by Egyptologists that the burial tradition
in the Valleys of the Kings lasted for about 400-500 years.
Based on our astronomical dating of the zodiacs from the
tombs, this period should be shorten to about 250-300 years.
On the other hand, the epoch these burials should be shifted
in time much closer to the present times.
Conclusion: We can claim with high probability that the
events of the pharaohs epoch described in ancient history of
Egypt took place not many thousand years before the Christian
era, but during the epoch from the 11th to 15th centuries
A.D.
That means 400-1000 years ago. However, in the
case of the great Egyptian temples, the dates encoded in the
zodiacs indicate the epoch from the end of the 12th century
till beginning of the 15th century A.D.
Dr. Fomenko proved that the pharaohs did live during the Renaissance:
Table of contents of the Mysteries of Egyptian Zodiacs:
(https://s3.postimg.org/u3ldppt9f/fom11.jpg)
(https://s21.postimg.org/ak6e76ccn/fom22.jpg)
(https://s1.postimg.org/5o85l1rzj/fom33.jpg)
(https://s4.postimg.org/ouhoj5ir1/fom44.jpg)
Those ancient Egyptians knew nothing of metres or feet!
The architects of the Gizeh pyramid used SACRED CUBITS.
Using modern measurements one sacred cubit = 0.635621 meters.
And the values you use are by no means exact anyway.
That is the beauty of the sacred cubit theory.
The precise height of the Gizeh pyramid is: 141.347 meters.
14.134725 is the value of the first zero of the zeta function analyzed by G.F. Riemann.
14.134725 x 45 = 636.062625
286.1 is the displacement factor of the Gizeh pyramid.
286.1/450 = 0.635777777
2/Π = 0.636619772
(PHI/4)1/2 = 0.63601
The reason for the slightly different values of the sacred cubit has to do with the color spectrum.
http://reocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/3324/nefersschooloflearning.htm
http://reocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/3324/nefershouse.htm
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There are several values to be used for the sacred cubit depending on the color of the light spectrum: starting from 0.62832 all the way to 0.64 – the most important value is of course 0.63566, the sacred cubit.
The authors of the work even express each and every value of the Gizeh pyramid using a very special type of circle:
(http://reocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hall/3324/pan5.gif)
You claimed that they needed the infinite series for arctan x. My point was that they may have a very good approximation, but not the infinite series.
A very good approximation just won't do it.
The controversy created by the measurements of the base of the Giza Pyramid made by C. Piazzi Smyth and W.F. Petrie was solved by D. Davidson who discovered the 286.1 displacement factor of the four sides of the base of the pyramid:
(http://thegreatpyramidofgiza.ca/@Giza$Relationship%20of%20Inner%20Square%20Circuit%20and%20Outer%20Square%20Circuit$Chapter_files/image001.jpg)
I = 35.8 Pyramid Inches
J = 35.8 Pyramid Inches
286.1/8 = 35.7625
http://thegreatpyramidofgiza.ca/content/#relationship-of-inner-square-circuit-and-outer-square-circuit
http://www.gizapyramid.com/beford%20article%202.htm
http://the-ultimate-frontier.org/history/Pyramid.htm
5.23 + 136.1 + 7.28 = 148.61
5.23 = masonry base = width of the queen's chamber
136.1 = 53.47 x 2.5454
7.28 = 286.1 pyramid inches
[148.612 + (233.424/2)2]1/2 = 188.962
SIN X = 116.712/188.962 = 0.617648
The architects of the Gizeh Pyramid must have had at their disposal the arcsin power series, in order to attain at least three significant digits accuracy.
(https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/95f14b98c56e2bd452efa34a7c0d6e0f9542fc70)
Not even Bhaskara's formula (or Ptolemy's less accurate table of chords with interpolation approximations) will provide the accuracy needed for the final result (moreover, the second formula involves the radian measure and a very precise approximation of π, using at least 355/113).
(https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/c75694bd39c455a7f0a838e8c826592c701ea3b7)
(https://wikimedia.org/api/rest_v1/media/math/render/svg/6f93842c1e1cce894c281d597de8235a243aa6f3)
Substituting the value of 0.617648 on the left side of the equations and solving for x, will lead to an inaccurate result.
In the official chronology of history, ancient Egyptians could barely work out very simple fractions; the 355/113 approximation to π, not to mention raising a number to the 17th power was way beyond their computational capabilities.
339 = 3 x 113
533.3 x 1 sacred cubit = 339
(https://s12.postimg.org/viaku97pp/pyr1.jpg)
One author noted the following:
As our drawing clearly shows, not only the pyramid's envelope but also everything inside
it was determined with the aid of three equal circles. Theodolitic equipment placed within shaft D beamed upward a key vertical line whose function we shall soon describe. But first this equipment beamed out the horizontal rock/masonry line, on which the centers of the three circles were placed. The first of these (Point 1) was at D; Points 2 and 3, where its circle intersected the line, served as centers for the other two, overlapping circles. To draw these circles the pyramid's architects, of course, had to decide on the proper radius.
Our own calculations show that the radius adopted for the three circles envisioned by us was equal to 60 such Sacred Cubits; the number 60 being, not accidentally, the base number of the Sumerian sexagesimal mathematical system. This measure of 60 Sacred Cubits is dominant in the lengths and heights of the pyramid's inner structure as well as in the dimensions of its base.
However, the builders MUST have had ALL of the other measurements of the pyramid (angles, lengths, displacement factor) at their disposal BEFORE proceeding with the drawing of the circles, which must have been a geometrical aid meant to correctly place the other features of the Gizeh Pyramid on a drawing. And this fact, of course, takes us right back to the core the problem: calculation of arctangents and arcsines, using power series approximations.
For a radius of 60 sacred cubits, the circumference of the circle will measure:
60 sc x 2 x π = 240
π = 2/sc
377 is the 14th Fibonacci number
377 sc = 240
14.134725 is the first zero of the Riemann Zeta function
377/14.134725 = 26.67 (one of the fundamental numbers of the Gizeh Pyramid)
3 x 60 sc = 180 sc = 114.588
233.424 - (114.588 x 2) = 4.248
4.248 sc = 2.7
And what evidence have you that they actually measured angles and did not just use the tangent - opposite and adjacent or height and distance.
In other words, they may never have needed to calculate arctan x.
Further proof that the values of 51.8554 and 38.1446 are related to the sacred cubit.
51.8554/14.134725 = 11/3
1400/11 = 127.27272727
127.272727 = 63.63636363 x 2
51.8554 x 27 = 1400
51.8554 x 1.618034 = 83.904
1.618034 = PHI
83.904 x 0.6366 = 53.413
53.413 x 0.2548 = 13.61
0.02544 = one sacred inch (0.636/25)
136.1 = height of Gizeh Pyramid without the masonry base
Relationship between the two angles:
The other angle of the triangle, 38.145 degrees, is also closely related to the sacred cubit:
38.13 = 60 sacred cubits
And 51.85/38.1 = 1.361 - therefore, all these measurements/dimensions must have been known well ahead of time to the arhitects of the Gizeh Pyramid; but in order to have the actual angle values, they needed to calculate the arctangent of two sacred cubits.
TAN 51.8554 DEGREES = TWO SACRED CUBITS = 1.27330478216 = 0.636652 x 2
In order to reach the value of 51.8554 degrees, the architects MUST have used the extended arctangent series to achieve the final result.
Just a "very good approximation" won't do it.
You need the correct value to the fifth decimal, something that can be achieved ONLY by using advanced calculus:
https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1835342#msg1835342
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TAN 51.8554 DEGREES = TWO SACRED CUBITS = 1.27330478216 = 0.636652 x 2
TAN 51.8554 DEGREES is dimensionless and
TWO SACRED CUBITS has the dimensions of length, so you cannot equate them.
Post all you like but you still cannot equate a dimensionless quantity, TAN 51.8554°, to one with the dimensions of length, TWO SACRED CUBITS!
It is totally meaningless! Are you really so ignorant that you cannot see that?
I might as well claim that 200 kW = 45 m3.
Do you get my point yet?
Post all the ;D kilowatt hours of words ;D that you for all I care, but you cannot do it!
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He out spammed you by a mile. :o
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He out spammed you by a mile. :o
Well, SOMEONE certainly pushed the gobbledegook button!
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You round earthers trust the conventional sources of mainstream academia right? Every historian let me stress this very strongly, every mainstream historian will tell you that ancient Egyptians believed in flat earth. I mean shit your basic WIKI page will tell you that.
Here I will post a quote from WIKI
When thinking of the shape of the cosmos, the Egyptians saw the earth as a flat expanse of land, personified by the god Geb, over which arched the sky goddess Nut. The two were separated by Shu, the god of air. Beneath the earth lay a parallel underworld and undersky, and beyond the skies lay the infinite expanse of Nu, the chaos that had existed before creation.[25][26] The Egyptians also believed in a place called the Duat, a mysterious region associated with death and rebirth, that may have lain in the underworld or in the sky. Each day, Ra traveled over the earth across the underside of the sky, and at night he passed through the Duat to be reborn at dawn.[27]
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You round earthers trust the conventional sources of mainstream academia right? Every historian let me stress this very strongly, every mainstream historian will tell you that ancient Egyptians believed in flat earth. I mean shit your basic WIKI page will tell you that.
Here I will post a quote from WIKI
When thinking of the shape of the cosmos, the Egyptians saw the earth as a flat expanse of land, personified by the god Geb, over which arched the sky goddess Nut. The two were separated by Shu, the god of air. Beneath the earth lay a parallel underworld and undersky, and beyond the skies lay the infinite expanse of Nu, the chaos that had existed before creation.[25][26] The Egyptians also believed in a place called the Duat, a mysterious region associated with death and rebirth, that may have lain in the underworld or in the sky. Each day, Ra traveled over the earth across the underside of the sky, and at night he passed through the Duat to be reborn at dawn.[27]
So may I infer that you also believe the Earth is a god named Geb and the sky is a goddess named Nut? Interesting, as I had you pegged as a Christian for sure, but I don't think Christianity allows for the additional worship of Ancient Egyptian gods. But if your view of a flat earth is grounded in Ancient Egyptian belief, it's hard to imagine cherry picking that one piece and leaving the rest of their cosmology behind for no apparent reason.
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Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
I see a CGI rendering with motionless clouds. My eyes are open. Are yours?
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Yeah no just no what benefit is their to a globe earth and why the fuck is quantum mechanics a thing when its so unintuitive that no one would have come up with it and said that makes the most sense unless there was already evidence for it.Also your system would be self destructive because most people don't belove in it so it wouldn't be unless im misinterpreting what you are saying.
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Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
I see a CGI rendering with motionless clouds. My eyes are open. Are yours?
Your eyes may be open, but you are blind if you can't see the changing cloud formations. Even in this small, time lapse viewed on my phone, I can quite clearly see cloud movement.
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You round earthers trust the conventional sources of mainstream academia right? Every historian let me stress this very strongly, every mainstream historian will tell you that ancient Egyptians believed in flat earth. I mean shit your basic WIKI page will tell you that.
Here I will post a quote from WIKI
When thinking of the shape of the cosmos, the Egyptians saw the earth as a flat expanse of land, personified by the god Geb, over which arched the sky goddess Nut. The two were separated by Shu, the god of air. Beneath the earth lay a parallel underworld and undersky, and beyond the skies lay the infinite expanse of Nu, the chaos that had existed before creation.[25][26] The Egyptians also believed in a place called the Duat, a mysterious region associated with death and rebirth, that may have lain in the underworld or in the sky. Each day, Ra traveled over the earth across the underside of the sky, and at night he passed through the Duat to be reborn at dawn.[27]
Notice how the sun goes under the earth at night? If the earth were flat that would be the only way for sunrise and sunset to work.
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Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
I see a CGI rendering with motionless clouds. My eyes are open. Are yours?
Your eyes may be open, but you are blind if you can't see the changing cloud formations. Even in this small, time lapse viewed on my phone, I can quite clearly see cloud movement.
Where are all the other satellites? Did they get photoshopped out?
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(https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a012300/a012312/12312_Twitter_June2016.gif)
Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
I see a CGI rendering with motionless clouds. My eyes are open. Are yours?
Your eyes may be open, but you are blind if you can't see the changing cloud formations. Even in this small, time lapse viewed on my phone, I can quite clearly see cloud movement.
Where are all the other satellites? Did they get photoshopped out?
Why would you expect to see them when they are smaller than the pixel size at this scale?
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(https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a012300/a012312/12312_Twitter_June2016.gif)
Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
I see a CGI rendering with motionless clouds. My eyes are open. Are yours?
Your eyes may be open, but you are blind if you can't see the changing cloud formations. Even in this small, time lapse viewed on my phone, I can quite clearly see cloud movement.
Where are all the other satellites? Did they get photoshopped out?
At that scale? Would you seriously expect to see them?
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(https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a012300/a012312/12312_Twitter_June2016.gif)
Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
I see a CGI rendering with motionless clouds. My eyes are open. Are yours?
Your eyes may be open, but you are blind if you can't see the changing cloud formations. Even in this small, time lapse viewed on my phone, I can quite clearly see cloud movement.
Where are all the other satellites? Did they get photoshopped out?
Why would you expect to see them when they are smaller than the pixel size at this scale?
Not to mention that even if they were huge, the geosynchronous satellites wouldn't even be in the frame on this picture. They orbit at about 22,000 miles of altitude, or almost 3 Earth diameters away. This frame isn't even showing out to 8000 miles altitude.
Another incident where FE people just don't understand the scope and the scale of things.
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Wait so which is it? Are they too small to see or not even in the frame at all?
Gosh its hard to get the story straight when its all lies, isn't it?
Reminds me of the Vegas Shootings.
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Wait so which is it? Are they too small to see or not even in the frame at all?
Gosh its hard to get the story straight when its all lies, isn't it?
Reminds me of the Vegas Shootings.
Different satellites do different things and orbit at different distances. Why is that so hard to understand.
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Wait so which is it? Are they too small to see or not even in the frame at all?
Gosh its hard to get the story straight when its all lies, isn't it?
Reminds me of the Vegas Shootings.
Different satellites do different things and orbit at different distances. Why is that so hard to understand.
I see, so you have no idea.
So, you're saying there IS no spoon?
(https://i.imgur.com/WZTPMiQl.jpg)
The truth is...
Earth Is Flat!
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Wait so which is it? Are they too small to see or not even in the frame at all?
Gosh its hard to get the story straight when its all lies, isn't it?
Reminds me of the Vegas Shootings.
Different satellites do different things and orbit at different distances. Why is that so hard to understand.
I see, so you have no idea.
So, you're saying there IS no spoon?
(https://i.imgur.com/WZTPMiQl.jpg)
The truth is...
Earth Is Flat!
The truth is, you are a moron that believes the words of a fool that measured the height of a stick wrong in a drainage ditch somewhere in England.
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The truth is, you are a moron that believes the words of a fool that measured the height of a stick wrong in a drainage ditch somewhere in England.
(https://i.imgur.com/o79n3A1l.jpg)
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You :Paccidently :P left out an important bit my post that you quoted, so I fixed that.
You mean this earth is really flat?
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/0thzfx6itaxum1w/Scarborough%20Beacon%2050%20mm%20lens%20-%20cropped.jpg?dl=1)
From near sea-level, sure looks perfectly level. | | (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rcmu3djzvuhpz74/Curvature%20from%20Concorde.jpg?dl=1)
From Concorde, 50,000 ft, maybe a bit of a curve there. |
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/fcckeitocn1cucr/Losing%20Your%20Ride%20at%20121%2C000%20Feet%20-%20A%20Preview%20Indiana%20Caver%20at%200.17%20secs.jpg?dl=1)
Losing Your Ride at 121,000 Feet - starting to look convincing!
From a Flat Earther's video. | | (https://www.dropbox.com/s/2wlf8boqqqqxsfl/Planet%20Earth%20seen%20from%20space%20-Full%20HD%201080p%29-ORIGINAL.jpg?dl=1)
That looks curved, from about 200 miles, must be ;D CGI ;D |
Not only does it look curved, but as Galileo is reputed to have said: "Eppur si muove. And yet it does move.
Referring to the Earth. Apocryphal saying (of doubtful authenticity). By legend, Galileo whispered this to himself as he rose from kneeling after making his abjuration of heliocentricity.."
(https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a012300/a012312/12312_Twitter_June2016.gif)
It sure doesn't look flat to me! And by the way, the earth does not measure flat either.
May I recommend a good optometrist?
Or better still, stop dreaming and open your eyes!
I see a CGI rendering with motionless clouds. My eyes are open. Are yours?
Your eyes might be open, but try removing your conspiritard blinders. They block things that you don't want to see!
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/o1tfapmy1v3iegf/Smiley-%20Dark%20Glasses.gif?dl=1)
How fast do you expect clouds to move?
If you can't see the curve on the earth May I recommend a good optometrist for you too?
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Does any of that ancient Giza pyramid stuff posted here distill into anything resembling salience?
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He out spammed you by a mile. :o
If quantity equated to quality Sandokhan can out spam anyone by a mile.
But, Mr Hoppalong Catastrophe, miles of gobbledygook does not beat a line of fact!
So it looks like:
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Sandokhan 0
Hoppy failed to start.
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Does any of that ancient Giza pyramid stuff posted here distill into anything resembling salience?
Not long ago a diary of a government official who was responsible for building the Cheops pyramids has been found. It is on of he oldest extant papyri. If there was any doubt at all that the Egyptians built them that should settle it.
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Wait so which is it? Are they too small to see or not even in the frame at all?
Gosh its hard to get the story straight when its all lies, isn't it?
Reminds me of the Vegas Shootings.
Different satellites do different things and orbit at different distances. Why is that so hard to understand.
I see, so you have no idea.
So, you're saying there IS no spoon?
(https://i.imgur.com/WZTPMiQl.jpg)
The truth is...
Earth Is Flat!
No. I just explained it to you. It's both. The satellites that are in range are way to small to see at that scale. The ones out of range would be as well.
Do you understand scale?
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People need to wake up and realize the earth just has a tiny curve to it because of it resting on the back of such a giant shell, and that the elephants just hold it in a way that causes it to appear to have a curve due to their footing. The earth is indeed an almost flat landmass though. Which explains your curve arguments that all you globe believers use to argue with. Which is idiotic and getting quite old. (https://i.imgur.com/YErExvo.jpg)
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People need to wake up and realize the earth just has a tiny curve to it because of it resting on the back of such a giant shell, and that the elephants just hold it in a way that causes it to appear to have a curve due to their footing. The earth is indeed an almost flat landmass though. Which explains your curve arguments that all you globe believers use to argue with. Which is idiotic and getting quite old. (https://i.imgur.com/YErExvo.jpg)
This makes great sense!
The Elephants recover the water falling from the edge with their prehensile trunk, and spout it back over the flat(ish) surface in the form of precipitation!
Genius!
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People need to wake up and realize the earth just has a tiny curve to it because of it resting on the back of such a giant shell, and that the elephants just hold it in a way that causes it to appear to have a curve due to their footing. The earth is indeed an almost flat landmass though. Which explains your curve arguments that all you globe believers use to argue with. Which is idiotic and getting quite old. (https://i.imgur.com/YErExvo.jpg)
This makes great sense!
The Elephants recover the water falling from the edge with their prehensile trunk, and spout it back over the flat(ish) surface in the form of precipitation!
Genius!
You have to keep in mind that this is an artist rendition. The real earth is more like in this CGI render of our earth https://vimeo.com/23344217 (https://vimeo.com/23344217) So the elephants don't really need to spray the water back onto the curved disc due to it having walls of permafrost ice. Which is thicker and stronger than most of the permafrost on earth. Which is why many people stay away from Antarctica or risk damaging this protective barrier that keeps us safe from losing a majority of our water. But I must say it feels nice to meet another believer in what our true earth actually is though :)
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Wait so which is it? Are they too small to see or not even in the frame at all?
Gosh its hard to get the story straight when its all lies, isn't it?
Reminds me of the Vegas Shootings.
I said, "Even if they were huge..." meaning, they are too small to see at that scale, but even if they weren't, many of them would be too far from the Earth to appear in the frame. It's very simple English, and you should have no trouble understanding that it is both too small to see AND not in the frame.
I also specified geosynchronous satellites which have a very specific orbital altitude. There are many satellites that would appear in the frame if they were big enough to see at that scale. Remember that the Earth is about 8000 miles from top to bottom in that picture. Something would have to be pretty large to show up in a photo of that scale. There are many buildings with a larger footprint than the 400 feet of the ISS, and I can't see them in the picture. Should I conclude they don't exist?
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Wait so which is it? Are they too small to see or not even in the frame at all?
Gosh its hard to get the story straight when its all lies, isn't it?
Reminds me of the Vegas Shootings.
I said, "Even if they were huge..." meaning, they are too small to see at that scale, but even if they weren't, many of them would be too far from the Earth to appear in the frame. It's very simple English, and you should have no trouble understanding that it is both too small to see AND not in the frame.
I also specified geosynchronous satellites which have a very specific orbital altitude. There are many satellites that would appear in the frame if they were big enough to see at that scale. Remember that the Earth is about 8000 miles from top to bottom in that picture. Something would have to be pretty large to show up in a photo of that scale. There are many buildings with a larger footprint than the 400 feet of the ISS, and I can't see them in the picture. Should I conclude they don't exist?
It's pointless arguing scale with FE, it's their mental handicap.