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Flat Earth Discussion Boards => Flat Earth Debate => Topic started by: Itchy_Arris on June 17, 2015, 01:17:11 PM
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Locations due west are behind in time, locations in the east are ahead in time. For example, east coast USA is 5 hours behind me (British Summer Time) and Delhi is 4.5 hours ahead.
But here's where it breaks down. If I travel west to the USA, then keep going west, local time should get further and further behind BST. But what if I keep going west until I reach India? I should be a long way behind BST as I've been travelling west all the way. But India is actually ahead of BST! It doesn't work
Round earth theory busted, yet again! :D :D :o :o :D :D
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OMG, Itchy has figured out the secret of time travel!! :o Have you met John Titor yet?
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Locations due west are behind in time, locations in the east are ahead in time. For example, east coast USA is 5 hours behind me (British Summer Time) and Delhi is 4.5 hours ahead.
But here's where it breaks down. If I travel west to the USA, then keep going west, local time should get further and further behind BST. But what if I keep going west until I reach India? I should be a long way behind BST as I've been travelling west all the way. But India is actually ahead of BST! It doesn't work
Round earth theory busted, yet again! :D :D :o :o :D :D
Mr. Arris,
If what you say is true, then good observation. What made you look into this anyway? Also, is British Summer Time the same as our Daylight Savings Time?
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Locations due west are behind in time, locations in the east are ahead in time. For example, east coast USA is 5 hours behind me (British Summer Time) and Delhi is 4.5 hours ahead.
But here's where it breaks down. If I travel west to the USA, then keep going west, local time should get further and further behind BST. But what if I keep going west until I reach India? I should be a long way behind BST as I've been travelling west all the way. But India is actually ahead of BST! It doesn't work
Round earth theory busted, yet again! :D :D :o :o :D :D
Mr. Arris,
If what you say is true, then good observation. What made you look into this anyway? Also, is British Summer Time the same as our Daylight Savings Time?
Yes, it's the same thing. Clocks go forward an hour from Grenwich mean time during summer.
I found this out as I am always thinking and researching.
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You've discovered the International Date Line. Congratulations.
Out of interest, why does that 'problem' not apply on a flat Earth?
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You've discovered the International Date Line. Congratulations.
Out of interest, why does that 'problem' not apply on a flat Earth?
Well duh, obviously I knew that, but that is just a "magic" line to hide the fact that the earth is flat, and what you have actually done is travelled from one side to the other.
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Well duh, obviously I knew that, but that is just a "magic" line to hide the fact that the earth is flat, and what you have actually done is travelled from one side to the other.
It's not magic. Time zones are human construction, of course they need a little tweaking to work perfectly. If you're going to subtract a certain amount of hours if you head around the world one way, you need a lien to skip a day ahead or nothing would work: round or flat.
So, you're a dual Earther now?
I ask again, how specifically do you ignore this 'problem'?
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Well duh, obviously I knew that, but that is just a "magic" line to hide the fact that the earth is flat, and what you have actually done is travelled from one side to the other.
It's not magic. Time zones are human construction, of course they need a little tweaking to work perfectly. If you're going to subtract a certain amount of hours if you head around the world one way, you need a lien to skip a day ahead or nothing would work: round or flat.
So, you're a dual Earther now?
I ask again, how specifically do you ignore this 'problem'?
Just out of curiosity.
A question for Itchy Arris.
Do you have a theory for the International Date Line on a flat earth ?
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Well duh, obviously I knew that, but that is just a "magic" line to hide the fact that the earth is flat, and what you have actually done is travelled from one side to the other.
It's not magic. Time zones are human construction, of course they need a little tweaking to work perfectly. If you're going to subtract a certain amount of hours if you head around the world one way, you need a lien to skip a day ahead or nothing would work: round or flat.
So, you're a dual Earther now?
I ask again, how specifically do you ignore this 'problem'?
Just out of curiosity.
A question for Itchy Arris.
Do you have a theory for the International Date Line on a flat earth ?
No need for artificial lines to make things work on a flat earth.
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Well duh, obviously I knew that, but that is just a "magic" line to hide the fact that the earth is flat, and what you have actually done is travelled from one side to the other.
It's not magic. Time zones are human construction, of course they need a little tweaking to work perfectly. If you're going to subtract a certain amount of hours if you head around the world one way, you need a lien to skip a day ahead or nothing would work: round or flat.
So, you're a dual Earther now?
I ask again, how specifically do you ignore this 'problem'?
Just out of curiosity.
A question for Itchy Arris.
Do you have a theory for the International Date Line on a flat earth ?
No need for artificial lines to make things work on a flat earth.
So if I keep going west on a flat earth, how do I get to India that is ahead of my starting time?
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The time we see on a clock is a human construct, it can't be used to arrive at objective truth. The time all around the world is the same value, and is constant. Humans simply have defined it to be different at different points, to make the most of daylight. It's a system that will only last a couple of decades more.
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Itchy, you forgot about the international date line where the date is different on either side if it. This is to combat what you are talking about. By the way, why would you need this on a flat Earth?
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We learned about the International Date Line, and why it was necessary, in grade school. Kids these days! Didn't they teach you anything useful? ::)
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I have a friend who lives in New Zealand (and I live in the United States) who is almost always a day ahead of me, depending on the time of day.
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I have a friend who lives in New Zealand (and I live in the United States) who is almost always a day ahead of me, depending on the time of day.
That doesn't make any sense.
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I have a friend who lives in New Zealand (and I live in the United States) who is almost always a day ahead of me, depending on the time of day.
That doesn't make any sense.
Does to me.
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Well duh, obviously I knew that, but that is just a "magic" line to hide the fact that the earth is flat, and what you have actually done is travelled from one side to the other.
It's not magic. Time zones are human construction, of course they need a little tweaking to work perfectly. If you're going to subtract a certain amount of hours if you head around the world one way, you need a lien to skip a day ahead or nothing would work: round or flat.
So, you're a dual Earther now?
I ask again, how specifically do you ignore this 'problem'?
Just out of curiosity.
A question for Itchy Arris.
Do you have a theory for the International Date Line on a flat earth ?
No need for artificial lines to make things work on a flat earth.
Ha ha... not only complete failure to understand, but so stupid it hurts to try and think at that level. So on the flat earth it's always groundhog day?
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I have a friend who lives in New Zealand (and I live in the United States) who is almost always a day ahead of me, depending on the time of day.
That doesn't make any sense.
Does to me.
The time difference would be the same regardless of time of day.
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I have a friend who lives in New Zealand (and I live in the United States) who is almost always a day ahead of me, depending on the time of day.
That doesn't make any sense.
Does to me.
The time difference would be the same regardless of time of day.
Currently it is 10:20 AM on Thursday June 18th. In Melbourne Australia, what time is it where you are?
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It's 8:23pm. In an hour, it will be 9:23pm for me and 11:23am for you.
Why do you ask?
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It's 8:23pm. In an hour, it will be 9:23pm for me and 11:23am for you.
Why do you ask?
So at the moment I am a day ahead, but in 3 1/2 hours time we will both be on the same day, just as Mikeman said. It depends on the time of day.
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You're not truly a day ahead though, which is what mike's sentence suggested. The time difference does not change depending on the time of day, and you're still not a day ahead... that would require a full 24hr difference.
Basically, you're incorrect.
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You're not truly a day ahead though, which is what mike's sentence suggested. The time difference does not change depending on the time of day, and you're still not a day ahead... that would require a full 24hr difference.
Basically, you're incorrect.
Of course, the time difference remains the same, it's just a matter of understanding what Mikeman was saying when he used the phrase "a day ahead, depending on the time of day" and that's open to interpretation, the fact that I could make sense of it and you couldn't doesn't make me incorrect, it just means you didn't think it through.
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You're not truly a day ahead though, which is what mike's sentence suggested. The time difference does not change depending on the time of day, and you're still not a day ahead... that would require a full 24hr difference.
If you actually understood what mike said, then you would realise he was talking about what day it is. So, today, for me is Wednesday, but for Rayzor, it is Thursday. And in about 4 1/2 hours, we will both be on Thursday. So therefore, Rayzor is a day ahead of me.
Basically, you're incorrect.
Basically, you're pedantic.
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I'm not the one who wrote the sentence poorly, so excuse me for trying to correct a factual inaccuracy.
You guys do know how long a day is, right? ::)
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I'm not the one who wrote the sentence poorly, so excuse me for trying to correct a factual inaccuracy.
You guys do know how long a day is, right? ::)
You do realise that the word day has multiple uses right? ::)
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Locations due west are behind in time, locations in the east are ahead in time. For example, east coast USA is 5 hours behind me (British Summer Time) and Delhi is 4.5 hours ahead.
But here's where it breaks down. If I travel west to the USA, then keep going west, local time should get further and further behind BST. But what if I keep going west until I reach India? I should be a long way behind BST as I've been travelling west all the way. But India is actually ahead of BST! It doesn't work
Round earth theory busted, yet again! :D :D :o :o :D :D
And if you do it fast enough , you can go back in time, undo an earthquake and save Lois lane.
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Sense my post seemed to not make sense to a lot of posters, I will elaborate. There are a few hours a day where it's the same day for me and my friend, and most of the time he is a day ahead of me.
In the following animation, the red line represents the international date line and the color of the ring around the Earth represents what day it is in the area beneath it:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Dateline-animation-3deg-borderonly-180px.gif)
My friend and I both live rather close to the line but on different sides of it. This is how he is almost always a day ahead of me, but it's the same day for both of us for a few hours a day.
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Well duh, obviously I knew that, but that is just a "magic" line to hide the fact that the earth is flat, and what you have actually done is travelled from one side to the other.
It's not magic. Time zones are human construction, of course they need a little tweaking to work perfectly. If you're going to subtract a certain amount of hours if you head around the world one way, you need a lien to skip a day ahead or nothing would work: round or flat.
So, you're a dual Earther now?
I ask again, how specifically do you ignore this 'problem'?
Just out of curiosity.
A question for Itchy Arris.
Do you have a theory for the International Date Line on a flat earth ?
No need for artificial lines to make things work on a flat earth.
Where's your evidence/proof?
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Sense my post seemed to not make sense to a lot of posters, I will elaborate. There are a few hours a day where it's the same day for me and my friend, and most of the time he is a day ahead of me.
In the following animation, the red line represents the international date line and the color of the ring around the Earth represents what day it is in the area beneath it:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/87/Dateline-animation-3deg-borderonly-180px.gif)
My friend and I both live rather close to the line but on different sides of it. This is how he is almost always a day ahead of me, but it's the same day for both of us for a few hours a day.
FFS
SINCE NOT SENSE!!
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FFS
SINCE NOT SENSE!!
Are you going to respond to my points or not?
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Come on Mike, you know its not in a trolls nature to think, respond with an actual answer, or address anything they do not want to defend against.
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Come on Mike, you know its not in a trolls nature to think, respond with an actual answer, or address anything they do not want to defend against.
Reflection in the mirror much? You left out the part where you post walls of text that you are sure no one will read.
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I currently live in Shanghai. I visited my sister in Los Angeles back in January. Going to LA I lose a day. Departed on Monday and after the flight land Tuesday. Heading back I left late Friday and arrived in SH early Friday, essentially gaining a day. You can read all about how this works all over the web. So either you are unwilling to put in the work or your intelligence is not up to understanding. And from what I have seen from your postings and 'replies' I am guessing the latter.
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I currently live in Shanghai. I visited my sister in Los Angeles back in January. Going to LA I lose a day. Departed on Monday and after the flight land Tuesday. Heading back I left late Friday and arrived in SH early Friday, essentially gaining a day. You can read all about how this works all over the web. So either you are unwilling to put in the work or your intelligence is not up to understanding. And from what I have seen from your postings and 'replies' I am guessing the latter.
You can't "lose a day". Where does it go?
Unless you are another claimed time traveller?
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Come on Mike, you know its not in a trolls nature to think, respond with an actual answer, or address anything they do not want to defend against.
Reflection in the mirror much?
Nobody does that "much" thing anymore. Especially in nonsensical sentences.
You left out the part where you post walls of text that you are sure no one will read.
You missed out the part where you only turn up and make snarky, content free comments.
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FFS
SINCE NOT SENSE!!
Are you going to respond to my points or not?
You're the guy who believes humans are infested by spirits from another dimension. Therefore your points are it worth reading, let alone responding to. Nobody will ever take you seriously.
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I currently live in Shanghai. I visited my sister in Los Angeles back in January. Going to LA I lose a day. Departed on Monday and after the flight land Tuesday. Heading back I left late Friday and arrived in SH early Friday, essentially gaining a day. You can read all about how this works all over the web. So either you are unwilling to put in the work or your intelligence is not up to understanding. And from what I have seen from your postings and 'replies' I am guessing the latter.
You can't "lose a day". Where does it go?
The calendar page goes into the trash unused or underused. You might want to figure this stuff out before you take a long sea voyage in the Pacific.
Sometimes you don't even have to cross the date line for this to happen; the date line can cross you. From an interesting article about the history of time zones and the date line (http://www.sptimes.com/Travel97/10198/To_Every_Times__There.html):
In order to avoid territories that straddle it, such as the Aleutian and Fijian islands, the date line includes a series of zigzags, known as salients.
Living near a time warp can be a disturbing experience. Take the case of the Marshall Islands, a remote Pacific atoll to the west of the International Date Line. The largest island, Kwajalein, is a U.S. Army base with virtually no native inhabitants. At the height of its Cold War activity, Kwajalein adopted the same "day" as the continental United States, thereby propelling the island to the east of the Date Line and retarding it by 24 hours in relation to its neighboring islands.
But in 1993, the regional government reclaimed its prodigal son. The impact on the unfortunate Kwajaleinians was to erase the 21st of August from their calendars -- a Saturday. Bemused residents marked the event with a 2-mile, three-day "Run Around the Clock," starting just before midnight on Friday and ending a few minutes later on Sunday morning.
I know some people who were in Kwaj at the time and still have "The Day That Never Was" T-shirts from that weekend.
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FFS
SINCE NOT SENSE!!
Are you going to respond to my points or not?
You're the guy who believes humans are infested by spirits from another dimension. Therefore your points are it worth reading, let alone responding to. Nobody will ever take you seriously.
Doesn't make this thread any less stupid.
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You're the guy who believes humans are infested by spirits from another dimension. Therefore your points are it worth reading, let alone responding to. Nobody will ever take you seriously.
He's a Mormon, not a Scientologist.
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I currently live in Shanghai. I visited my sister in Los Angeles back in January. Going to LA I lose a day. Departed on Monday and after the flight land Tuesday. Heading back I left late Friday and arrived in SH early Friday, essentially gaining a day. You can read all about how this works all over the web. So either you are unwilling to put in the work or your intelligence is not up to understanding. And from what I have seen from your postings and 'replies' I am guessing the latter.
You can't "lose a day". Where does it go?
Unless you are another claimed time traveller?
Why not look it up instead of asking here.
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You're the guy who believes humans are infested by spirits from another dimension. Therefore your points are it worth reading, let alone responding to. Nobody will ever take you seriously.
He's a Mormon, not a Scientologist.
I currently live in Shanghai. I visited my sister in Los Angeles back in January. Going to LA I lose a day. Departed on Monday and after the flight land Tuesday. Heading back I left late Friday and arrived in SH early Friday, essentially gaining a day. You can read all about how this works all over the web. So either you are unwilling to put in the work or your intelligence is not up to understanding. And from what I have seen from your postings and 'replies' I am guessing the latter.
You can't "lose a day". Where does it go?
Unless you are another claimed time traveller?
Why not look it up instead of asking here.
That is what I wonder about when I read most of you posts where you demand irrelevant simplistic answers.
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FFS
SINCE NOT SENSE!!
Are you going to respond to my points or not?
You're the guy who believes humans are infested by spirits from another dimension. Therefore your points are it worth reading, let alone responding to. Nobody will ever take you seriously.
So you will not respond to my points because you can't. Got it,