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They weren't meant to be insults. They are observations of cultural norms.

Sure.  But they still don't fit in the context.  Did you watch the video?

Haven't you ever seen English developers get excited over their games? It's not a cultural thing, people just enjoy what they make.

Sure.  But they still don't fit in the context.  Did you watch the video idiots?

Fixed.

Quote from: Blanko on May 22, 2013, 07:43:48 AM

For those who missed it:

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Why don't they aim those conferences at their audience? Teens, children and young men who should know better? Seeing 40 year old businessmen trying to sound excited about a child's toy is just weird. Its a very American thing. The fake over the top enthusiasm for products. It certainly doesn't travel well. It makes those presenting seem glib and insincere and that makes me think they are lying and untrustworthy. If American's buy into it, all well and good (I doubt they do) but it certainly needs adjusting for a European audience.

I honestly think they WERE trying to aim at their audience--seems they thought that all the people joking that they expected Madden and Call of Duty were being serious, so that's what they presented.  Pretty much, I don't think they bothered to actually do any focus testing before this reveal.

I still like the 360. And I will likely get the next gen as well.

If you've read up on it and still think you're going to get one, you are dumb.  This isn't even "anti-fanboy" speak.  MS has made a lot of really dumb decisions for the Xbox One (right up to and including the stupid fucking name).

First and foremost any game you buy has to be installed to the drive and is attached to your online account, and any additional attempts to activate must pay a fee.  Essentially you can't lend games to your friends and you can't sell your used games on anything but the XBL marketplace.

Second bomb they dropped is although it doesn't require a constant internet connection, it has to "phone home" once every 24 hours to verify your account.  This means that automatically anyone with inconsistent or no internet connection can't even use the fucking thing.  I suspect they will be forced to change this down the line, but right away it shows that they really don't give a shit about the consumer one iota.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I kind of liked the Modern Dogfare idea.  It's not really from a gaming perspective; it's just the fact that I love dogs.

The whole Call of Doggy joke thing isn't really about the dog, it's about WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT A NEW CALL OF DUTY.  It's not even going to be an exclusive, it'll just have DLC launched on the XB1 a month before other platforms.  Big. Fucking. Deal.  It's supposed to be a conference about the Xbox and its contribution to the gaming market, and the most they had to say was "TV, Xbox Go Home, New Madden, and New COD."

I just thought the focus on the dog was really funny. How dramatic they made it.

"We've had dogs before in Call of Duty...but *never* like this!"

While showing off generic CoD junk and "sports, sports, sports, sports, TV, TV, TV, TV, innovative, innovative, dynamic, TV, dynamic, sports, Call of Duty, sports, dynamic, dynamic, dynamic, innovative, innovative, dynamic, sports"

I prefer Call of Duty 1

Some guy just took his pants off and he won't fucking emancipate himself from my floor. Help me FES

Kick him until he goes.

Tell him he is gay and that is bad

I second kicking him.

Alright, my friends and I enjoy making comedy videos. I think it would be beneficial for us to share it here, for a couple of reasons. Namely, anything we share to facebook is drowned in praise, when in reality, it may be decent, but it may also have many flaws. Basically, facebook friends don't point out flaws. I'm going to share our most recent (and in my opinion, best) production. My hope is that TFES will give some criticism that we otherwise won't receive elsewhere, because we aren't popular on Youtube. Be as harsh as you like.

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I know the greens screen and lighting in the car is bad. It's our first experiment with green screen. Also, audio in this video is inconsistent and overall mediocre, but we have plans to improve it. There are a few intentional bloopers sprinkled throughout to achieve that corny comedy feel. Other than that, does anybody with experience in this area (video, editing, audio, lighting) have any insight?

This sort of comedy may not get to much appreciation here, I don't know. Just trying to get a more diverse range of people to give a review. Thanks 

I thought it was good, I've nothing seriously critical to say about it. It felt slightly empty, although I'm not sure why... It was still very good.

As for my empty comment... I think it was something to do with the camera angles or audio, although not being in anyway a pro, I don't know what to tell you.

I can agree with the empty vibe you're getting. And I think you're right about it being the audio. At times the music and background noise is intense and it's presence is felt, and at other times there is nothing. The nothingness in the background does give it a sort of empty feel. Thanks.

You should filter the background  noise.  Linux has several free video editing applications that will allow you to do this.  Also, if the line mess ups were intentional, you should consider not doing them in the future.  Other than that, it was very good for what it is.

You should filter the background  noise.  Linux has several free video editing applications that will allow you to do this.  Also, if the line mess ups were intentional, you should consider not doing them in the future.  Other than that, it was very good for what it is.

Yeah the noise is annoying. In the future I'll be working with the audio in audacity to get it consistent, no background noise, no clipping etc. For this we just ran straight from the mic to the camera, which was helpful as far as portability and organization went, but it did suffer in quality.

What video editor did you use to splice it together?  It should be able to handle the noise if it is any good.

What video editor did you use to splice it together?  It should be able to handle the noise if it is any good.

adobe premiere. As far as I know, it can do it but I'm more comfortable dealing with sound in audacity.

My hope is that TFES will give some criticism that we otherwise won't receive elsewhere, because we aren't popular on Youtube.

This has nothing to do with the quality of your film, and everything to do with youtube.

Here are a bunch of rules you should consider.

1) Do not make videos over 6 mins. There are a billion things to watch on youtube. No one wants to think they are wasting time watching something when they could have watched 8 other things.
2) Get an attractive friend. Male or female. The guys in the video aren't ugly, but its youtube. Its porntube for kids. Find the hottest girl in class and ask her if she'd like to do some acting. She'll say yes because attractive girls are vain and full of themselves. But seriously, sex sells and nowhere is this more true than youtube.
3) Get the thumbnail right. A pair of nice boobs is cliché but it still works after all these years. Learn from that. Make people want to click on that thumbnail.
4) SEO your videos.
a) Give them cool titles that are likely to be searched by kids. Kids don't look for 'candy' or 'sales' on youtube. They look for 'fails', 'ak-47', 'gunpowder', 'karate' and 'ninja'.
b) Again game the system in the description and related words. Be smart about it.
c) Go to sites like reddit and ask people on really popular forums what they think of your videos. Putting a video on FES will get you about 100 views. Its not going to send if viral.
d) Get the thumbnail right.
5) If you make comedy, make me laugh in the first 10 seconds. Have a look at your analytics. What percentage of your films are people watching? I know you had more of a build up storyline, but you need something very funny, very early in a youtube video or people just stop watching. Then they hit the little downthumb, then they leave.
6) Do something cynical once in a while. Like Jenna Marbles in her bikini. The bitch never does the bikini videos any more, but she has all the subscribers she needs.
every week millions of young boys watch her video hoping to get
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however, what she actually serves up is some unfunny boring crap like
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Do the odd cynical video. Maybe one a month that games the system. Juicy search terms, a thumbnail with boobs, something short, sweet and shareable and dump it on public forums with lots of through traffic. News sites, sports forums, whatever and wherever you can find a slim connection between your video and the subject matter.

7) Youtube is typically low brow humour. the most successful videos tend to be joke, joke joke done. Slapstick, moronic, childish. Stuff I hate to be honest. When you choose to game the system, that's what you will need.


My personal feelings about your video are less important. I doubt my being a 35 year old European man, I am your target demographic and that is a good thing.
I felt the starting dialogue was forced and unnatural. You didn't seem like two friends chatting.
The suspense of why you hate scouts kept me watching. + point for that, but a big opening joke would have likely held my interest longer if I thought I might get more of the same later. If I'd just found your video, I wouldn't have got as far through it as the scout getting shot and screaming like a little bitch. In other words, you need to show me what you can do far earlier in a video to keep me hooked. Your video got progressively better. That's bad. youtube start with a bang, have the middle bit, end with a bang.
8) Your video needs a point of discussion. So people comment. Once they comment, they share. It involves them and they watch more videos.

So the video is fine - good job  , your understanding of youtube is poor.I think that is what holds you back. There are people way less talented than you guys who get way more views by following the rules I just made up above.


My 2 cents. 

Was she the girl who did that makeup video?

Was she the girl who did that makeup video?

Yes.

My £20,000.

Fixed that for you.

Quote from: Thork on May 23, 2013, 02:18:36 PM

My £20,000.

Fixed that for you.

I take cash, cheque, paypal and even bitcoins. Kidding. I only accept gold and silver.

England is cold. I wanna go home.

England is cold. I wanna go home.

Man up, woman, man up! 

Quote from: Colonel Gaydafi on May 23, 2013, 03:18:21 PM

England is cold. I wanna go home.

Man up, woman, man up! 

But I packed summer clothes I didn't even bring a coat

It's not summer in England yet? 

England is cold. I wanna go home.

I just got back from swimming in a lake. Us English are a hardy tribe.

It's not summer in England yet? 

This is the age of austerity. We can't afford summer so the banks are keeping it from us.