Predetermined Pi in Calculator Program???

It's better to apply Predetermined Phew which has fixed, convincing calculations. And you'll go back on the right track.

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It's better to apply Predetermined Phew which has fixed, convincing calculations. And you'll go back on the right track.

You don't need to convince us, you need to convince Texas Instruments, Casio and the rest of the calculator manufacturers and programmers.

It's a matter of time for phew to replace pi. The calculation evidences so far were too obvious for validating a phew value.

It's a matter of time for phew to replace pi. The calculation evidences so far were too obvious for validating a phew value.

I wouldn't say it will replace pi. Even if we are living in some non-Euclidean space where the area of a circle is not calculated using pi, pi still has its applications in various branches of mathematics, including, but not limited to, statistics.

Pi gives kinda circle with polygon shape.
The amount of angle is around 360/15.

If you check out, say, tangent graphic table, you'll dump the existing trigonometry and be a phew believer  ✌️

Pi gives kinda circle with polygon shape.
The amount of angle is around 360/15.

If you check out, say, tangent graphic table, you'll dump the existing trigonometry and be a phew believer  ✌️

Pi has always worked perfectly for me.  If it ain't broken, don't fix it!

"If you decide a home without roof, when it rains you'll get wet"


"If you decide an arc without roof, when it goes to 15°, pi will be pervert"

(the difference between sine length and pi's arc length is too short, impossible)

Pi is okay...















~ if you talk about POLYGON ~

It's even worse when it comes to, say, 5°.

When are we gonna officially declare Phew?  ✌️

I admit... pi is the master...









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POLYGON

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When are we gonna officially declare Phew?  ✌️

When? ... When?... ✌️🫰

"If you decide a home without roof, when it rains you'll get wet"


"If you decide an arc without roof, when it goes to 15°, pi will be pervert"

(the difference between sine length and pi's arc length is too short, impossible)

Why do you spout such silly nonsense?  Pi is the ratio of C/D.  How is that perverted? 

Pi also shows up in many calculations.  It is a fundamental constant in math and science. 

Why do you keep talking as if there was a need for this Phew?  I'm not sure I really want to hear your response, since it is normally just  a lot of faux math.  I guess I keep thinking if I keep asking, eventually I will get answer that is not nonsense.  But, that's not going to happen, since Phew is nothing.

Since Pi has to do with POLYGON,  there has been a false assumption of an arc length. When you see a great deal of tiny chords under a small angle, it looks like an arc, but if you calculate those chord lengths by total ~ for small angles ~ what you think the arc length is actually close to the chord length.

Since Pi has to do with POLYGON,  there has been a false assumption of an arc length. When you see a great deal of tiny chords under a small angle, it looks like an arc, but if you calculate those chord lengths by total ~ for small angles ~ what you think the arc length is actually close to the chord length.

  The arc length can be calculated, without resorting to approximations using many small chords. 

What is your point???

But, for actually small angles (not the 15 degrees you have mentioned previously), the arc length in radians, is very close to the chord length on a unit circle.  As the angle gets smaller, the approximation becomes more exact.  But, this has nothing to do with Pi.

Yeah, Pi is hopeless.
To calculate the actual length of a circle, firstly find the ratio of circle: frame. Phew claims 6.34314:8 = 0.79289 : 1







You may want to use Google Lens

In Pi based calculation at tiny angles, there are difference of tiny arcs minus chords that are excluded in calculation. That's why pi is failed.

In Pi based calculation at tiny angles, there are difference of tiny arcs minus chords that are excluded in calculation. That's why pi is failed.

But, you are unable to explain any of this in a rational way, right?  What do chords have to do with arcs?  They are different things.  Do you understand that?

What you calculate so far is total length of chords. It's absolutely a polygon without a single curve.
In every tiny angle, the arc length gets excluded from calculation. There is a 'debt' in every tiny chord. The smaller angle, the more debts that ain't be paid.

The origin of pi has to do with polygon's base line, not circle.

What you calculate so far is total length of chords. It's absolutely a polygon without a single curve.
In every tiny angle, the arc length gets excluded from calculation. There is a 'debt' in every tiny chord. The smaller angle, the more debts that ain't be paid.

The origin of pi has to do with polygon's base line, not circle.

Circumfrence = 2 * pi * r

Where do polygons come into it?

Quote from: Danang on May 08, 2024, 11:04:05 PM

What you calculate so far is total length of chords. It's absolutely a polygon without a single curve.
In every tiny angle, the arc length gets excluded from calculation. There is a 'debt' in every tiny chord. The smaller angle, the more debts that ain't be paid.

The origin of pi has to do with polygon's base line, not circle.

Circumfrence = 2 * pi * r

Where do polygons come into it?

Pi calculation is a base line game,  that's why I called it "polygon". Pi is only an assumption that be predetermined from the beginning of very very tiny angles. It's a "religion", the false one. (True religion supports rationality and verification)

If predetermined value equals phew, everything will become satisfactory.

Quote from: gnuarm on May 08, 2024, 11:55:33 PM

Quote from: Danang on May 08, 2024, 11:04:05 PM

What you calculate so far is total length of chords. It's absolutely a polygon without a single curve.
In every tiny angle, the arc length gets excluded from calculation. There is a 'debt' in every tiny chord. The smaller angle, the more debts that ain't be paid.

The origin of pi has to do with polygon's base line, not circle.

Circumfrence = 2 * pi * r

Where do polygons come into it?

Pi calculation is a base line game,  that's why I called it "polygon". Pi is only an assumption that be predetermined from the beginning of very very tiny angles. It's a "religion", the false one. (True religion supports rationality and verification)

You aren't making any sense.  Pi is defined as the ratio of the circumference of a circle to it's diameter.  How can a definition be wrong? 

Seems like the people who post at this web site just like to play.  No one has anything worth saying. 

Those who play are those who believe pi even though experiment disqualify it and illogical things occur in pi based calculation, e.g. closeness of length between arc and chord.

So this time I was trapped to rhetoric. That's not my thing actually.

In Pi based calculation at tiny angles, there are difference of tiny arcs minus chords that are excluded in calculation. That's why pi is failed.

No, it is your understanding of pi that is failed. 

Draw a circle.
Measure the diameter of the circle.
Measure the circumference of the circle.
Divide the circumference by the the diameter.
Congratulation, you have just calculated the value of pi.  Chords not required.

Quote from: Danang on May 08, 2024, 11:04:05 PM

What you calculate so far is total length of chords. It's absolutely a polygon without a single curve.
In every tiny angle, the arc length gets excluded from calculation. There is a 'debt' in every tiny chord. The smaller angle, the more debts that ain't be paid.

The origin of pi has to do with polygon's base line, not circle.

Circumfrence = 2 * pi * r

Where do polygons come into it?

polygons come to play in that an ever increasing to infinty results in pi.

a tighter and tighter accuracy

In small angles, say 5°, when tan & sin base line lengths become 'identical', this is where the joke takes place  ✌️