Werewolf -- Crestwood

Wilmore and Irush are wolves. Prove me wrong.

Marcus is a good choice as well. I was surprised that he actually complained about how the Psychic is allowed to tell his dead allies what his guesses are, when this has always been a tradition here and never been a problem before. If he's truly a Villager, why, then, did he complain about a strategy that could lead him to victory without actually breaking the game? If he's a Wolf, it's obviously because it just killed one of his brethren.

Quote from: Marcus Aurelius on May 18, 2012, 07:28:29 PM

Sigh, I think the whole idea of the psychic telling the dead who their guesses are is kind of cheap, and not in the spirit of the game.

He went quiet after Saddam accused him of being a Wolf in response to the above. Now, he accuses Saddam of being a Wolf for some reason. If Marcus does turn out to be a Wolf, then chances are Saddam is not. We have can lynch two more people before we lose, and we really should use them to kill Sean and Marcus.

Hmmm... Mr. Pseudonym is acting suspicious to me...

I peg you as a wolf.

Quote from: Jack on May 23, 2012, 03:07:49 PM

Marcus is a good choice as well. I was surprised that he actually complained about how the Psychic is allowed to tell his dead allies what his guesses are, when this has always been a tradition here and never been a problem before. If he's truly a Villager, why, then, did he complain about a strategy that could lead him to victory without actually breaking the game? If he's a Wolf, it's obviously because it just killed one of his brethren.

Quote from: Marcus Aurelius on May 18, 2012, 07:28:29 PM

Sigh, I think the whole idea of the psychic telling the dead who their guesses are is kind of cheap, and not in the spirit of the game.

He went quiet after Saddam accused him of being a Wolf in response to the above. Now, he accuses Saddam of being a Wolf for some reason. If Marcus does turn out to be a Wolf, then chances are Saddam is not. We have can lynch two more people before we lose, and we really should use them to kill Sean and Marcus.

I do think it's cheap, and I don't apologize.  I brought it up because to this day I am probably the most successful psychic at FES.  I had 4 guesses and got them all right, not only that, I never messaged a dead person, I used influence in the game itself to get those wolves lynched.  If thinking that's cheap makes me a wolf, then lynch me.

Ask Chris, he ran that game if I remember correctly, it was the abduction one.

I think Wilmore said he was a wolf in one of the deleted posts.

Quote from: Particle Person on May 23, 2012, 04:05:09 PM

I think Wilmore said he was a wolf in one of the deleted posts.

Are you suggesting that Wilmore sabotaged the cite in a dastardly ploy to circumvent the "no edit" rule? Genius.

Now, if I am wrong on Wilmore I will do the honorable thing which he has clearly forgotten or neglected to do; put my own hand up first for my own lynching.

For the Wolves, the aim is to kill enough of the Villagers so that 1 in every 5 players is a Wolf- for example, if all three Wolves are to stay alive and win, they have to kill until there are only 12 Villagers left (i.e. 15 players overrall). For two Wolves to win, there must only be 8 Villagers left (i.e. 10 players overall).

The rule clearly says it's 1 wolf to every 3 players, not Villagers.

It's 1:2, wolves to villagers.

1:3 Ratio.

Quote from: Jack on May 23, 2012, 05:51:09 PM

The rule clearly says it's 1 wolf to every 3 players, not Villagers.

The ratio doesn't make sense if it means 1 wolf to every 3 players, because wolves are players. The crossed out rules refer to 1 in every 5 players being a wolf, not 1 wolf to every 5 players. Look at the passage you quoted. There are wolves and villagers, but all of them are players.


The 1:3 ratio means 1 wolf to every 3 villagers.

for example, if all three Wolves are to stay alive and win, they have to kill until there are only 12 Villagers left (i.e. 15 players overrall). For two Wolves to win, there must only be 8 Villagers left (i.e. 10 players overall).

The above refers to the previous 1:5 ratio. It says that the game is over if there are 15 players remaining, which include the 3 Wolves. This means it's 12 Villagers and 3 Wolves. Now, since the ratio is changed to 1:3, the game will be over if there are 9 players remaining (again, including the Wolves). This means it's 6 Villagers and 3 Wolves. Simply put, it's 1 Wolf : 3 players, not 1 Wolf : 3 Villagers.

I got the wording wrong in my previous post, as I simply copied what you just said. I meant 1 Wolf in every 3 players.

I think the proportions may have been taken from the old set of rules, because they imply that there are just three wolves, when there are actually four. My guess is that section has yet to be updated.


Anyway, with 26 players and 4 wolves, I think the ratio should 1:3, in other words one in every four players is a wolf. That way about 10 villagers have to die for them to win.

I am so confused.

Quote from: Saddam Hussein on May 23, 2012, 05:19:53 PM

I am so confused.

Jack, I wrote those rules. 1 in 5 is not a ratio. If you express the victory conditions "1 in every 5 players is a wolf" as a ratio, it's "1 wolf to every 4 villagers", or 1:4. Similarly, if the victory conditions are that 1 in every 4 players is a wolf, then that equates to a ratio of 1 wolf to every 3 villagers, or 1:3.


The passage you quoted clearly distinguishes between players, villagers and wolves. However, the ratio was simply different for that game. In that game, victory conditions for the wolves were that 1 in every 5 players be a wolf, or in other words that there was 1 wolf to every 4 villagers (1:4).


The victory ratio changes from game to game, because sometimes the number of players means that you cannot simply increase/lower the number of wolves to balance the game. Adding or subtracting a wolf makes a huge difference, whereas increasing or lowering the victory ratio can make less of a difference, and allow for a more balanced game. It just depends on the numbers.