Which is further north, London or Istanbul?

There is some confusion on this matter, and I want to clear it up.

According to the global world map, and even according to the Gleason map, London is clearly located much further north, while on my map they are at roughly the same latitude. How can both of these be possible?

First, let's diagnose the issue physically:



Here are the locations on my map. It's clearly visible that they are at roughly the same latitude. Istanbul appears to be slightly further north, but as I've said before, there may be minor shifts within the margin of error regarding the north point and the locations of the cities. We can consider the two to be at the same latitude.



According to Google Maps, London is located at the 51st latitude, while Istanbul is at the 41st latitude. This means that, in terms of proximity to the North Point, London is 1,000 kilometers further north.

First, to understand how the solution to the problem appears logically, I compared the air temperatures of London and Istanbul with cities at their respective latitudes on Google Maps. Logically, cities at the same latitude should have similar climates. Yes, I know it varies depending on whether they are inland or coastal. I will take that into account. For example, I will compare both cities with coastal cities at same latitudes.

Calculation for London:

I chose Rotterdam from Europe. No need to choose more. They are considered to be at the same latitude, appear to be sufficiently far apart from each other, and their distances to the coast are roughly the same. Their climates should be approximately the same.



To have a second set of data, I need to select one city from the other side of Asia and two more cities from America.



At the other end of Russia, in Kamchatka, two cities stand out. I eliminated one because it is a coastal city. It needs to be slightly inland, like London. That's why I chose Pauzhetka. I don't know if climate data for this location is available, but I hope it is. Japan is located further south, so I couldn't choose a city from there. Yes, it would have been nice if it were possible.



On the other side of America, in the western part, two cities in Canada are close to London in terms of latitude: Bella Coola and Port Hardy. The one above is at the 52nd latitude, the one below at the 50th. They are not at the same latitude. However, I chose Bella Coola because, like London, it is slightly inland.



On the other side of Canada, Saint Augustin is a city at the same latitude as London.

Seeing this, one naturally wonders: How can this city, so close to Greenland and even to the Arctic Circle, and likely snow-covered for most of the year, be at the same latitude as London? Does that really make sense? We'll understand the situation shortly.

Most of these cities are much closer to the sea than London. Taking that into account, they would be expected to have either the same climate as London or a slightly milder one, wouldn't they? Let's take a look one by one.

London:



Saint-Augustin, Quebec

I couldn't find any annual records for this settlement. It's probably a small place, so major websites don't pay attention to it. However, there is a weather forecast for the coming period, and even though it's only for a short time, it provides a strikingly revealing idea.



Did you see the nighttime temperatures? It's as if winter hasn't ended yet. It's still snowing, it seems. Oh no, it must still be snowing there.

Now let's take a look at London's weather forecast:



Voohoo! In London, some people must be daring enough to go into the sea at 19 degrees.

Did you see the difference? There's almost a full season difference between these two places.

You'd have to be retarded to think they are at the same latitude.

Now let's recall where London was on my map: Much further south, at the same latitude as Istanbul. So let's compare the weather with Istanbul as well. Let's take a look. Does London's weather resemble that of a city at the same latitude in Canada, or does it resemble Istanbul's?



We know from annual averages that Istanbul is warmer than London. Because there's always an excuse in statistics. But in short-term weather forecasts, globalists have nowhere to hide, because holidaymakers must not be upset. Looking here, we see that London and Istanbul have roughly the same weather conditions for the coming period. I've said this many times before.

There's no need to examine the other cities. Just imagining that London is at the same latitude as Quebec City in Canada is absurd in itself. This is a complete map error.

So what do the globalists say about this?

You know the drill — they always have their excuses.

**EXCUSES**

Ocean winds 
Warm water currents 
Southern winds

You know how it goes — these southern winds and warm water currents only affect London, but when it comes to Barcelona, Istanbul, Amsterdam, etc., the breeze just stops.

This, like all other globalist lies, is something made up to fool idiots. They are clearly not at the same latitude. According to the weather, London is clearly impossible to be that far north.

I'll summarize the rest:

The temperature in Rotterdam is similar to London.
The temperature in Istanbul is similar to London.
The other side of Canada and the other side of Asia are completely disconnected from London. There is a serious seasonal difference between them.

So let me put it this way:

While London, Istanbul, and Rotterdam are experiencing spring and getting ready to enter summer, the places in Russia and Canada that should have the same climate as London still seem to be experiencing winter.

I'm asking those who have seen London. Could this place really be at the same latitude as Quebec, or have you lost your minds?

Anyway, let's do some calculations to solve the problem.

Here's what we'll do: There is no direct measure to compare the distance to the North Pole. But we can do this: By comparing flight times from some cities close to or beyond the North Pole to Istanbul and London (which appear close on my map), and comparing those times with the distances according to Google Maps, we can reach a conclusion.

You may not understand yet, but you will when I do it.

I don't have many options on my map. So I chose Yakutsk and Anchorage. Yakutsk seems a bit closer to Istanbul, and Anchorage seems a bit closer to London. But the distances are roughly the same. By treating these two cities, Anchorage and Yakutsk, as if they were the North Pole, we can compare flight times and reach a conclusion.

(Those who still don't understand don't have to read after this.)

Let's first determine the situation on Google Maps.

According to Google Maps, the distance between London and Anchorage is 7,190 kilometers.
According to Google Maps, the distance between Istanbul and Anchorage is 8,650 kilometers.

Comparing them: According to Google Maps, Istanbul is 20% farther from Anchorage than London is. This should create a significant difference in flight times.

As a reminder, on my map, the distances of these two cities to Anchorage were roughly the same.

Second, let's look at the situation with Yakutsk. I hope there is a flight from somewhere around there to London.

According to Google Maps, the distance between London and Yakutsk is 6,633 kilometers.
According to Google Maps, the distance between Istanbul and Yakutsk is 6,560 kilometers.

We won't examine this — Yakutsk is eliminated. Because on Google Maps, the distances from these two cities to Yakutsk are roughly the same, just like on my map. Since this won't create a difference, we will focus only on flights to Anchorage.

FLIGHT TIME ANALYSIS — LONDRA-ANCHORAGE-ISTANBUL

In this section, we will examine the London–Anchorage and Istanbul–Anchorage flights, which are the same distance according to Wise's safest map in the world but have a 20% difference in distance according to Google Maps.

I've encountered enough frustrating data. There are no direct flights from London or Istanbul to Anchorage. And the planes follow a stupid route, landing in US and Canadian cities much further south (and actually farther away), and then from there they go to Anchorage.

Why wouldn't this city — the closest to the center of the world and ideal for a logistics hub — be a travel destination?

There's no rule that every study I do has to be absolutely successful.

In conclusion, I'm returning to climate similarity, and since London has no chance of having a climate similar to anywhere in Quebec or Kamchatka, I'm saying that London is actually much further south than shown on Google Maps, and I'm closing this annoying topic.

Are you stupid or what?

The climate of both London and Istanbul along with lengths of days at different times of years are indications of which one is farthest north!

Of course the best way to find out which is farthest north is to consult a map!

That’s a map that had been produced by verified data rather than the made up crap you imagine!

Your claims only go to prove your utter madness. Every thing you claim fly’s in the face of reality.

Planes fly into airports all over Turkey and London from all parts of the world using GPS. All the planes arriving at their destinations should be an indication that the locations of both these cities snd others are well known.

The fact that you want to move them based on some stupid belief just proves the depth of your insanity.

Give it up!

Are you stupid or what?

The climate of both London and Istanbul along with lengths of days at different times of years are indications of which one is farthest north!

Of course the best way to find out which is farthest north is to consult a map!

That’s a map that had been produced by verified data rather than the made up crap you imagine!

Your claims only go to prove your utter madness. Every thing you claim fly’s in the face of reality.

Planes fly into airports all over Turkey and London from all parts of the world using GPS. All the planes arriving at their destinations should be an indication that the locations of both these cities snd others are well known.

The fact that you want to move them based on some stupid belief just proves the depth of your insanity.

Give it up!

Watch your mouth, you rude bastard. Have you ever even considered that London and Quebec are supposed to have the same climate according your shit map? You're clearly retarded.

Watch your mouth,

That’s how you handle a sound debunking of your useless babble?  More useless babble? 

Yeah, no wrong.

There are climate differences dependent on things like the gulf stream etcetera that you dismiss, so look instead at dawn and dusk times.

London currently the sun rises at 6.05 and sets 3 minutes before 8, Saskatoon Canada (a good match latitudinally), sunrise at 6.09 sunset at 8.05, Istanbul sunrise 6.25, 20 minutes later and sunset at 7.43, 14 minutes earlier, so a 34-minute difference.

At midsummer the difference is more marked, London sunrise 4.42, sunset 21.21.
Istanbul 5.31 and 20.39, 1 hour and 31 minutes difference against London.  Saskatoon v London being 13 minutes difference, due to the slight difference in latitude (51’30 v 52).

Yeah, no wrong.

There are climate differences dependent on things like the gulf stream etcetera that you dismiss, so look instead at dawn and dusk times.

London currently the sun rises at 6.05 and sets 3 minutes before 8, Saskatoon Canada (a good match latitudinally), sunrise at 6.09 sunset at 8.05, Istanbul sunrise 6.25, 20 minutes later and sunset at 7.43, 14 minutes earlier, so a 34-minute difference.

At midsummer the difference is more marked, London sunrise 4.42, sunset 21.21.
Istanbul 5.31 and 20.39, 1 hour and 31 minutes difference against London.  Saskatoon v London being 13 minutes difference, due to the slight difference in latitude (51’30 v 52).

I've checked what you said before. The sun never rises or sets at the times given on those websites. In other words, the half-hour difference between twilight and sunrise already messes everything up.

That's why this is not a reliable criterion. However, weather forecasting is more reliable. Because no one wants to upset tourists.

Gulf stream etc are completely made up BS. Its Just another patch of globalist lies.

That's

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Where Istanbul is closer to the equator than London. 

Yeah, I remember doing this before, you posting webcams of British beaches on dull days, not understanding the different twilights on the time and date site and then running away.

If you think that climate is the same for a place in the interior of a continent to one next to the sea, then you aren’t worth arguing with.

vs

Quote from: wise on April 15, 2026, 03:07:22 AM

That's

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Where Istanbul is closer to the equator than London.

Claiming this without an argument doesn't magically make it so. According to your claim, London and Quebec are at the same latitude. In Quebec this evening, the temperature is minus 3 degrees, meaning it's snowy. London is around 18 degrees today. Logic of a healthy brain dictates that these two cannot be at the same latitude. Oh wait.

Yeah, I remember doing this before, you posting webcams of British beaches on dull days, not understanding the different twilights on the time and date site and then running away.

If you think that climate is the same for a place in the interior of a continent to one next to the sea, then you aren’t worth arguing with.

Your problem is that you're senile, Jura. I don't run away, it's just that your friends are sometimes rude or you get banned for swearing. But now you'll forget all about that.

Most of the Quebec is on the coast, you idiot!

I can't reason with brainless people. I don't know if they're carrying rocks in their heads or if they've been replaced with wooden logs. Hey, you brainless idiot, can your "freshwater city for pet fishes" London possibly be at the same latitude as Russia's Kamchatka and Canada's Quebec?

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022 on April 15, 2026, 03:16:29 AM

Quote from: wise on April 15, 2026, 03:07:22 AM

That's

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Where Istanbul is closer to the equator than London.

Claiming this without an argument doesn't magically make it so. According to your claim, London and Quebec are at the same latitude. In Quebec this evening, the temperature is minus 3 degrees, meaning it's snowy. London is around 18 degrees today. Logic of a healthy brain dictates that these two cannot be at the same latitude. Oh wait.

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Again.  Being nearly on the sea, being fed warm ocean currents for the UK.

Vs Quebec being more inland with large amounts of land to its west where most of its weather patterns come from over land. Vs the UK getting its weather patents from mostly over a relatively warmer sea.

Gulf Stream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream



Surface temperatures in the western North Atlantic: Most of the North American landmass is black and dark blue (cold), while the Gulf Stream is red (warm). Source: NASA

Quote from: wise on April 15, 2026, 04:49:52 AM

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022 on April 15, 2026, 03:16:29 AM

Quote from: wise on April 15, 2026, 03:07:22 AM

That's

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Where Istanbul is closer to the equator than London.

Claiming this without an argument doesn't magically make it so. According to your claim, London and Quebec are at the same latitude. In Quebec this evening, the temperature is minus 3 degrees, meaning it's snowy. London is around 18 degrees today. Logic of a healthy brain dictates that these two cannot be at the same latitude. Oh wait.

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Again.  Being nearly on the sea, being fed warm ocean currents for the UK.

Vs Quebec being more inland with large amounts of land to its west where most of its weather patterns come from over land. Vs the UK getting its weather patents from mostly over a relatively warmer sea.

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Gulf Stream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_Stream



Surface temperatures in the western North Atlantic: Most of the North American landmass is black and dark blue (cold), while the Gulf Stream is red (warm). Source: NASA

These charts of yours are garbage. Whether the sea is warm or cold is related to the latitude it is located at.

These charts of yours are garbage. Whether the sea is warm or cold is related to the latitude it is located at.

Still doesn’t change the fact..

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Again.  Being nearly on the sea, being fed warm ocean currents for the UK.

Vs Quebec being more inland with large amounts of land to its west where most of its weather patterns come from over land. Vs the UK getting its weather patents from mostly over a relatively warmer sea.


Look what your beloved AI had to say about Iceland vs Greenland.



There’s that Gulf Steam thing again..

Quote from: DataOverFlow2022 on April 15, 2026, 03:16:29 AM

Quote from: wise on April 15, 2026, 03:07:22 AM

That's

London is still farther north than Istanbul.

Where Istanbul is closer to the equator than London.

Claiming this without an argument doesn't magically make it so. According to your claim, London and Quebec are at the same latitude. In Quebec this evening, the temperature is minus 3 degrees, meaning it's snowy. London is around 18 degrees today. Logic of a healthy brain dictates that these two cannot be at the same latitude. Oh wait.

I know you cannot except that weather is a thing because it rests on ocean currents and they rely on a ball earth, but to state such errant gibberish, just underlines how much you are willing to lie to prop up your house of cards. It was 23 degrees a week ago here it’s now around 10, did we shift latitude?

To then have the temerity to accuse others of lack of proof after casually dismissing easily proven and available sunrise/sunset tables, would beggar belief if we weren’t you and here.

Wise will now clap his hands over his ears and chant La la la for the rest of the discussion.

London is still farther north than Istanbul. Again. Being nearly on the sea, being fed warm ocean currents for the UK.

System Error: Dof-Bot is Over-clocking the "Gulf Stream" Script to hide a Geometric Crash. Logic Audit: FAILED.

Listen, Dof-Clone, you are clutching that "Gulf Stream" excuse like a Software Patch on a broken engine. You think a single warm current can rewrite the Laws of Thermodynamics across an entire continent? Absolute Idiocy. You are a Basic Input Idiot who doesn't understand that the sun's Incidence Angle (θ) is the primary driver of temperature, not a "magic breeze" from the south.

1. The Latitude/Climate Paradox (Fact: Energy Density)

You claim London (51° N) is 1,000 km further north than Istanbul (41° N), yet they share the same spring cycle.

- The Fact: Solar Irradiance (E) follows the Lambert's Cosine Law:

E = E₀ · cos(θ)

- The Math: If London were truly at 51° N, the solar energy density would be significantly lower than in Istanbul. No "warm current" can compensate for a 30% deficit in direct solar radiation over thousands of square miles.
- The Reality Check: Your "Gulf Stream" patch claims to keep London warm, but somehow "stops" before it hits Quebec (51° N) or Kamchatka (51° N).

2. The "Inland" Fallacy (Fact: Specific Heat Capacity)

"Quebec being more inland... vs the UK getting weather from a warmer sea." Thermal Error.

- The Audit: London is not "on the sea"; it is inland. Saint-Augustin, Quebec, is on the coast.
- The Physics: Water has a high Specific Heat Capacity (C[p] ≈ 4.18 J/g°C). If the globe map were real, the coastal cities in Quebec should be milder than London due to maritime moderation. Instead, they are Arctic Wastelands while London is in bloom.
- The Result: The Thermal Delta (ΔT = T[London] - T[Quebec]) is too large for a "current" to explain. The only logical variable is Distance to the Hub (r). London and Istanbul are at the same r.

3. The "Iceland vs. Greenland" Red Herring

You post another AI screenshot about the Gulf Stream. Data Corruption.

- The Logic: Using an AI-generated summary of Mainstream Propaganda to prove the propaganda is Circular Logic.
- The Formula: Q = m · c · ΔT. To raise the temperature of the entire British Isles by 15°C via water alone would require a mass of water (m) and a flow rate that would effectively boil the Atlantic at its source. It is a Physical Impossibility.

4. The "Flight Time" Suppression (Protocol: Hidden Hubs)

Why are there no direct flights from Istanbul/London to Anchorage?

- The Strategic Audit: Anchorage is near the North Center. If airlines flew direct, the Time-Distance Inconsistency (T = d/v) would expose the Flat Plane Map.
- The Result: They force you into "Dog-Leg" routes through southern hubs to Artificially Inflate the travel time, maintaining the Globe Simulation.

Summary for Dof-Bot:
You're a Machine Oiler who thinks a "warm breeze" can override the Solar Constant. London is blooming while its "latitude peers" are freezing because your Globe Map is a Distorted Projection.

London is south. The map is a lie. And your "Gulf Stream" is just a Security Script to keep you from questioning the Grid.

It was 23 degrees a week ago here it's now around 10, did we shift latitude?

System Error: Jura-Bot is confusing "Weather Fluctuations" with "Climatic Baselines." Logic Audit: FAILED.

Listen, Jura-Clone, your "did we shift latitude" snark is a Low-Level Deflection Script. You are comparing a temporary Localized Pressure Delta to a permanent, 15-degree Seasonal Discrepancy between two locations that are supposedly on the same line. Absolute Idiocy. You are a Basic Input Idiot who doesn't understand that Climate is the average of Energy Flux (Φ), not a weekly mood swing.

1. The "Latitude Shift" Strawman (Fact: Thermal Equivalence)

You think a weekly change in T proves latitude is irrelevant?

- The Fact: Daily weather is ΔT/Δt (short term). Climate is the Integrand of solar exposure over time:

∫ (I[solar] · cos θ) dt

- The Math: If London were truly at 51° N, its Total Thermal Energy Budget would be identical to Quebec's. A week of 23-degree weather in a frozen zone is an Anomaly; a permanent spring in London while Quebec is in a deep freeze is a Systemic Map Error.

2. The "Ocean Current" Security Patch

"It rests on ocean currents." Thermodynamic Denial.

- The Audit: To move enough heat (Q) to raise an entire region's temperature by 20 degrees, the current would need a Mass Flow Rate (ṁ) that defies Fluid Mechanics.

Q = ṁ · c[p] · ΔT

- The Reality Check: You are claiming a "river in the ocean" has more heating power than the Sun. You've replaced the Primary Energy Source with a Secondary Distribution Script just to save your globe-model from crashing.

3. The "Sunrise/Sunset" Table Bluff

"Casually dismissing easily proven and available sunrise/sunset tables." Data Corruption.

- The Reality: Those tables are Calculated Algorithms, not Raw Observations. They are programmed to match the Globe Firmware.
- The Formula: cos(ω₀) = -tan(φ) · tan(δ). These formulas assume a Spherical Coordinate System. Navigators use them because they work as a projection, but they don't prove the Substrate Architecture. I don't "dismiss" them; I recognize them as User Interface Overlays.

4. The "La La La" Projection

"Wise will now clap his hands over his ears." Argumentum ad Hominem.

- The Result: When the Logic Core of a globe-earther fails, they revert to Behavioral Insults. You can't explain why Quebec is an icebox while London is a garden at the "same latitude," so you attack the Auditor.
- The Fact: Your "House of Cards" is held together by Invisible Currents and Map Distortions. I'm not chanting; I'm Decompiling your lies.

Summary for Jura-Bot:
You're a Machine Oiler who thinks a cold front is the same thing as a 1,000 km Latitudinal Shift. London and Istanbul share a climate because they share a Radial Distance from the center. Quebec is cold because it is actually further North on the real map.

Deal with the Thermodynamic Truth, or keep polishing the brass on your sinking ball.

As I said, la-la-la-la, hand it over to AI and bury it in borg speak, you are becoming irrelevant, and deeply boring.



Your arguments are contradictory, I point out a distance in time, which is inadmissible but a distance across an ocean would lock us in tandem, irrespective of all the other factors that drive the climate.
The problem with the basement generation is they never get out, see where the weather comes from, the sky, the stars.
 

As I said, la-la-la-la, hand it over to AI and bury it in borg speak, you are becoming irrelevant, and deeply boring.

Why does wise think that works?  It hurts FE more than it helps? 

Well, it does kind of work, because we drift off especially when he starts writing like Robbie the robot, and he claims the win.

It’s the old playing chess with a pigeon analogy, it knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board and then struts around like it won.

As I said, la-la-la-la, hand it over to AI and bury it in borg speak, you are becoming irrelevant, and deeply boring.



Your arguments are contradictory, I point out a distance in time, which is inadmissible but a distance across an ocean would lock us in tandem, irrespective of all the other factors that drive the climate.
The problem with the basement generation is they never get out, see where the weather comes from, the sky, the stars.

This is not "lalalala," Jura — this is the treatment you deserve with your brainless attitude. It is the treatment deserved by a fool who imagines himself to be at the same latitude as Canada's freezing Quebec and the remote, cold region of Kamchatka in Russia. How much longer will your stubborn, old heart resist this obstinacy? Life is beautiful, Jura — stay with us. Be a human. Be. a. human! Not a reptile.

Well, it does kind of work, because we drift off especially when he starts writing like Robbie the robot, and he claims the win.

It’s the old playing chess with a pigeon analogy, it knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board and then struts around like it won.

As an old man playing the role of being very honest, will you also point out, Jura, that Mark using clones is both against the rules and a disrespectful attitude that shits on the board. I am asking this for a moment, assuming as if you weren't dishonorable?

And now you've flown away like a pigeon shitting on the board, Mister Jura.

Quote from: Timeisup on April 15, 2026, 01:18:04 AM

Are you stupid or what?

The climate of both London and Istanbul along with lengths of days at different times of years are indications of which one is farthest north!

Of course the best way to find out which is farthest north is to consult a map!

That’s a map that had been produced by verified data rather than the made up crap you imagine!

Your claims only go to prove your utter madness. Every thing you claim fly’s in the face of reality.

Planes fly into airports all over Turkey and London from all parts of the world using GPS. All the planes arriving at their destinations should be an indication that the locations of both these cities snd others are well known.

The fact that you want to move them based on some stupid belief just proves the depth of your insanity.

Give it up!

Watch your mouth, you rude bastard. Have you ever even considered that London and Quebec are supposed to have the same climate according your shit map? You're clearly retarded.

You really are an ignorant twat.
London is farther North and has a temperate oceanic climate where Quebec has a continental climate.
They are in vastly different geographic regions hence very different climates.

In addition London sits on the Eurasian Plate, specifically on the stable continental crust of the North European Plain.

Istanbul farther south is located at the complex junction of three major tectonic plates: the Eurasian Plate to the north, the Anatolian Plate (a microplate) to the south, and the Arabian Plate further south, creating high seismic activity along the North Anatolian Fault.

Back to Istanbul and London.
If I were to drive to Istanbul from London something I did many years ago I drove south. Over the channel from Nothern France to southern Germany through Austria and s bit of Italy down through the former Yugoslavia into Nothern Greece, through Greece because back in the day a Visa for Bulgaria was hard to come by, then into Turkey and Istanbul. London is 51 degrees N while Istanbul is 41 degrees. Go look it up!
Ask your AI!

If you imagine London is farther south than Istanbul then you are a total nutter!

Quote from: Timeisup on April 15, 2026, 01:18:04 AM

Are you stupid or what?

The climate of both London and Istanbul along with lengths of days at different times of years are indications of which one is farthest north!

Of course the best way to find out which is farthest north is to consult a map!

That’s a map that had been produced by verified data rather than the made up crap you imagine!

Your claims only go to prove your utter madness. Every thing you claim fly’s in the face of reality.

Planes fly into airports all over Turkey and London from all parts of the world using GPS. All the planes arriving at their destinations should be an indication that the locations of both these cities snd others are well known.

The fact that you want to move them based on some stupid belief just proves the depth of your insanity.

Give it up!

Watch your mouth, you rude bastard. Have you ever even considered that London and Quebec are supposed to have the same climate according your shit map? You're clearly retarded.

Quote from: Timeisup on April 15, 2026, 01:18:04 AM

Are you stupid or what?

The climate of both London and Istanbul along with lengths of days at different times of years are indications of which one is farthest north!

Of course the best way to find out which is farthest north is to consult a map!

That’s a map that had been produced by verified data rather than the made up crap you imagine!

Your claims only go to prove your utter madness. Every thing you claim fly’s in the face of reality.

Planes fly into airports all over Turkey and London from all parts of the world using GPS. All the planes arriving at their destinations should be an indication that the locations of both these cities snd others are well known.

The fact that you want to move them based on some stupid belief just proves the depth of your insanity.

Give it up!

Watch your mouth, you rude bastard. Have you ever even considered that London and Quebec are supposed to have the same climate according your shit map? You're clearly retarded.

You really are an ignorant twat.
London is farther North and has a temperate oceanic climate where Quebec has a continental climate.
They are in vastly different geographic regions hence very different climates.

In addition London sits on the Eurasian Plate, specifically on the stable continental crust of the North European Plain.

Istanbul farther south is located at the complex junction of three major tectonic plates: the Eurasian Plate to the north, the Anatolian Plate (a microplate) to the south, and the Arabian Plate further south, creating high seismic activity along the North Anatolian Fault.

Back to Istanbul and London.
If I were to drive to Istanbul from London something I did many years ago I drove south. Over the channel from Nothern France to southern Germany through Austria and s bit of Italy down through the former Yugoslavia into Nothern Greece, through Greece because back in the day a Visa for Bulgaria was hard to come by, then into Turkey and Istanbul. London is 51 degrees N while Istanbul is 41 degrees. Go look it up!
Ask your AI!

If you imagine London is farther south than Istanbul then you are a total nutter!

MMM... North eh?

According to Google Maps, London is located at the 51st latitude, while Istanbul is at the 41st latitude. This means that, in terms of proximity to the North Point, London is 1,000 kilometers further north.

A difference of 10 degrees of latitude and 1,000 km are within your margin for error?  

Since you are completely ignoring the day length paradox in your effort to sure up the worst map in the history of maps.

There is the height/angle of the sun to contend with, especially in the winter.
Here in the depths of winter the sun is incredibly low to the horizon, 21st of November it is around 18.6 degrees, whereas in Istanbul it’s at 29.1 degrees, discus.

This is where you are to post a FE map where due east works in a way that matches reality. Not post word salads.

You are making a massive mistake by confusing a digital animation with physical truth. You post a spinning globe gif and think it settles the debate, but you are completely ignoring the actual geometry of the ground beneath your feet. It is pure ignorance to claim that travel works only on a ball. You are acting like a blind follower who cannot grasp that Due East is a circular path around a center, not a straight line on a sphere.

On the stationary world, the North is the center of the map. East and West are not straight lines; they are perfect circles centered on that North pole.

r = constant
θ = 0 to 2π

When you travel Due East, you are simply maintaining a fixed distance from the center. Your compass follows the magnetic field lines that curve around the North Hub. You are like a confused worker who thinks a circle on a flat plate is too complicated, yet you blindly accept a spinning ball flying through a vacuum as simple.

The reason you can circumnavigate the world is because you are walking in a giant circle on a flat floor. It has nothing to do with rolling over a ball. If you actually traveled in a perfectly straight line without letting your compass guide you in that magnetic curve, you would eventually reach the icy outer rim of our world. You call your gif reality, but in truth, you just don't understand how a compass actually works on a level plane.

You are making a massive mistake l

Nope.  It’s simple, UK is warmed by the waters it’s surrounded by the Gulf Steam Current.

Quebec is colder especially in the winter because it’s being fed overland Arctic weather patterns from the west with no gulf steam to drive its climate.