Conspiracy to the fore.

Geometric Failure.[

The actual post.

Local Luminary suspended in the sky.

Radar surveys to just looking at the moon proves you wrong.  To the way it blocks the sun during a solar eclipse.  And to how it catches the earth’s shadow during lunar eclipses.  To the phases of the moon.  To the way the moon changes origination based on location on a RE between locations in the norther or southern hemisphere. 

I don't think all science is fake

Which as nothing to do with third party verification of various nations tracking the mission with radar to the craft broadcasting with the proper Doppler shift for their rate of speed.  With having to use direction antennas as the craft moves through space. 

So your proof is that you have more friends than me? People willing to sign nondisclosure agreements, or have  friends and family threatened if they ever talk?

It is rather easy to secure a large number of people to defend a lie.

It is somewhat harder to convince even one person to swallow their shame and their fear, and defend what they believe with their very life.

So your proof is that you have more friends than me?

What are you.  Like five.

Your post has nothing to do with my argument in it’s entirety


Which has nothing to do with third party verification of various nations tracking the mission with radar to the craft broadcasting with the proper Doppler shift for their rate of speed.  With having to use directional antennas as the craft moves through space.

 People willing to sign nondisclosure agreements,

Which has what to do with things like this posted / cited / quoted for you in the past.

Backyard Detectives Out-Spy the Spies Orbiting Above
Today the government is launching a new clandestine satellite.

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/backyard-detectives-search-for-snooping-space-satellites/

THE AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS WHO HUNT SPY SATELLITES
SATELLITES,CLASSIFIED,DIY

https://www.supercluster.com/editorial/meet-the-amateur-astronomers-hunting-for-spy-satellites

Where amateur ham operators, or anyone willing to invest in the equipment can track the moon mission and its broadcasts.

Where China, Russia, North Korea, and many other nations are tracking the mission bound by no non disclosure agreements just waiting to embarrass the USA at the drop of a hat.  You act like the USA is the only country with an active space program with active moon mission.  There are many unmanned moon missions currently broadcasting data from the moon.  Stupid fat lazy Americans from the US think NASA is the only space agency.  Where many nations have their own space programs.

Like turkey sending this guy up.

Alper Gezeravcı (born 2 December 1979) is a military pilot and the first Turkish astronaut. He flew to International Space Station by taking part in a special space flight on 18 January 2024 with the Axiom Mission 3 (or Ax-3) mission.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Alper+Gezeravc%C4%B1&client=safari&hs=O4I&sca_esv=f4adb27807e92ea2&channel=iphone_bm&source=hp&ei=rJzPaaD0DJqHp84Pip28qQs&biw=390&bih=645&oq=tirkush+astronaut+that+visited+iss&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCIidGlya3VzaCBhc3Ryb25hdXQgdGhhdCB2aXNpdGVkIGlzczIHECEYoAEYCjIHECEYoAEYCjIHECEYoAEYCjIHECEYoAEYCjIIEAAYgAQYogQyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiiBBiJBTIIEAAYgAQYogRI0XlQ3xZYmHJwA3gAkAEAmAHKAaAByxyqAQcyMi4xMi4xuAEDyAEA-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-QTjjXK6BgQIARgKkgcHMTguMTguMqAHobsCsgcHMTUuMTguMrgH6R7CBwYyLTMzLjXIB9YBgAgA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp&ved=2ahUKEwiKrvzKwtGTAxUf38kDHXzrECEQgK4QegQIARAE

Alper Gezeravcı, Ax-3 Mission Specialist




Still waiting for wise to call Alper Gezeravcı a lying NWO  drone if they don’t think the ISS is real and in low earth orbit.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on April 03, 2026, 07:00:36 AM

So your proof is that you have more friends than me?

What are you.  Like five.

Your post has nothing to do with my argument in it’s entirety


Which has nothing to do with third party verification of various nations tracking the mission with radar to the craft broadcasting with the proper Doppler shift for their rate of speed.  With having to use directional antennas as the craft moves through space.

Third party verification. In other words, people paid to look at, and possibly adjust results. But you say, why would they adjust results on their readings? Well some of them are globalists themselves, but quite alot say "This looks wrong" and correct the readings to what they've been brainwashed to see.

So no, I don't care about your friends in broadcasting, nor on Artemis II, nor that Turk in ISS fakestation.

The people I care about are people who care about other people, not those who exploit globalism for profit at the expense of others.

Third party verification.

Can you can you comprehend what is actually posted.

Where amateur ham operators, or anyone willing to invest in the equipment can track the moon mission and its broadcasts.

Where China, Russia, North Korea, and many other nations are tracking the mission bound by no non disclosure agreements just waiting to embarrass the USA at the drop of a hat.  You act like the USA is the only country with an active space program with active moon mission.  There are many unmanned moon missions currently broadcasting data from the moon.  Stupid fat lazy Americans from the US think NASA is the only space agency.  Where many nations have their own space programs.


Do you understand there are whole technical groups in China and Russia and other nations paid to discredit the USA on the slightest of evidence.  Why would they not call out a supposed fake moon mission if it was really fake.  Do you understand the amount of third party and amateur verification going on. But once again, Bulma has proven from other threads to be a slanderous little brat. 

Yes, why didn’t America say Russia was making up a story about sending up a satellite into ‘space’?

And why didn’t Russia say that America is lying about sending a man to the moon?

Because both countries are faking it, as are all the other countries too.

If America had said these evil lying commies didn’t send anything up into space, there’s no way the Russians had or could prove their claim.

America says the Russians did send up Sputnik into space, the Russians say America did send a man to the moon , which is something that NO true enemies would ever do.


But they weren’t true enemies at all, they only pretended to be. They’re both in on this grand fairy tale story, all of them are, their rulers tell them to follow their fairy tale story,

And why didn’t Russia say that America is lying about sending a man to the moon?

Because everyone that looks up can see the moon is already a natural satellite of mass, in earth’s orbit, in space.  Confirmed by lunar and solar eclipses. 

It's not a satellite either.

It's within the firmament of the sky, as is the sun.

You cannot see a damned thing outside the firmament. You can prove this every time these rockets launch up, and the utter lack of visibility even within Earth's atmosphere. They cheer when it heads out of sight, and then go home to get barbecue brisket and forget the whole thing until the next propaganda segment in Houston.

Nor does the eclipse prove anything about this.

 

If America had said these evil lying commies didn’t send anything up into space, there’s no way the Russians had or could prove their claim.

The Russians proved that Sputnik 1 was in space by putting a radio transmitter in it and transmitting beeps that could be heard by anyone with a shortwave radio.

Directions provided by the American Radio Relay League were to “tune in 20 megacycles sharply, by the time signals, given on that frequency. Then tune to slightly higher frequencies. The ‘beep, beep’ sound of the satellite can be heard each time it rounds the globe.”

You're not helping your case there, pal.

https://greatmountainpublishing.com/2021/07/01/long-distance-radio-transmissions-prove-that-the-earth-is-flat/

The modern myth of the ionosphere-bounce theory is completely impeached by the practice of what is known as moon-bounce, or earth-moon-earth (EME) communication.  Moon-bounce communication or EME is where radio operators, including amateur radio (ham) operators, bounce radio signals off the moon.  The moon is supposed to be 238,900 miles from earth. Think about this logically; if the ionosphere, which is the atmosphere that is at a height of 50 to 600 miles from the earth’s surface is supposed to reflect radio signals back to earth, how can those same radio signals pass through the ionosphere and travel all the way to the moon, which is supposed to be 238,900 miles from earth?

If Sputnik is able to be picked up by radio, wouldn't it make far more sense (given the ionosphere bounce) if it was within the atmosphere than outside of it?

Your own "proof" just shot you in the foot.

Sputnik 1 was in an elliptical orbit roughly 135 by 590 miles, which is still within the ionosphere which extend from about 30 to around 1000 miles.  Not sure how to bounce a radio signal off of a medium that you're in the middle of.

Good on you, you admitted Sputnik wasn't "in space."

I'm not sure either, but the theory I suppose is like having your legs tied to the ground in a Faraday cage and trying to radio for help.  Good luck with that.

Yes, a Faraday cage will block signals from amateur radio, preventing communication. This is because the cage shields the interior from external electromagnetic radiation, including radio waves.

The problem of the ionosphere bounce theory is that effectively means that telephone call to the moon was basically impossible. We should have known it was impossible anyway, because there are no telephone lines, and no transmitters on the moon.

President calls film studio at a specific type, studio pre-record the sound, and filter it badly so it sounds garbled and distant. The "phone call" is a heavily edited sound recording with static and tinny feel.
"Thank...you...Mister...President..."

Nowadays, they dispense with the ionosphere bounce myth, except when explaining who long distance signals work, so a call to the moon by cellphone? No scratch at all! When the circus comes to town, they set up tents and bring elephants and tigers, and are on the main road.
When NASA comes to town, they go to school kids and have them ask stupid questions, when the astronauts are on a back road pretending to be in a space shuttle. The kid asks them a hard question? (visual glitch) "Oh sorry, we're having technical difficulties. The distance to the moon means sometimes there is a lag. We might have to stop for the day." 

Good on you, you admitted Sputnik wasn't "in space."

Quote and cite where that was ever posted.

Bulma, such a spoiled dishonest brat. 

Good on you, you admitted Sputnik wasn't "in space."

I suppose that depends on how you define "space".  The exosphere can reach out to around 6,200 miles where it merges with the solar wind.  Then again, we've been trying to tell you that space isn't a perfect vacuum for years.  This is why LEO satellites occasionally fall out of orbit and burn up in the denser layers of the atmosphere.

I'm not sure either, but the theory I suppose is like having your legs tied to the ground in a Faraday cage and trying to radio for help.  Good luck with that.

Perhaps you don't understand that different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation are affected differently by different solids, liquids and gasses.  There is also the fact that ionosphere radio bounce is more of a refractive event than a true bounce.

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Yes, a Faraday cage will block signals from amateur radio, preventing communication. This is because the cage shields the interior from external electromagnetic radiation, including radio waves.

Faraday cages do not bounce EM radiation.  They absorb them.  Pretty significant difference.

The problem of the ionosphere bounce theory is that effectively means that telephone call to the moon was basically impossible. We should have known it was impossible anyway, because there are no telephone lines, and no transmitters on the moon.

And you should know that not all radio frequencies bounce off the ionosphere, but I guess that you've never been bothered by such trivial details.

Says a spoiled dishonest brat who immediately jumped at the chance to have the gravy train continue. Can I be paid to work on radar systems if I lie about NASA? Sure, I'll do that. Didn't you say that was your job? So your job requires you to sit all day, and watch readings, then you go home and shill for NASA because they paid you six figures to basically do nothing.

Some people farm for a living, whacking the ground all day to clear and stack soil, whacking it again with a garden rake to make furrows, going up and down to plant seeds. Then going up and down to water them every day. Then milking cows. And getting paid next to nothing for the products they sell that keep the nation fed.  And those make the food that you can stuff your face with.
Some people mine for coal, breaking heavy rocks to find bits of softer flammable lignite or anthracite, then pushing those carts to market. And those give the energy for your radar to even run.
Some people clear logs and the like, and smash gravel and mix it to build roads. And you use those roads without a second thought to drive to your job where you mostly sit. A metallurgist makes your antennas, not you. The repair guy sets it up, not you. You get to sit, right?

You get paid a ton to be a shill. You are a spoiled dishonest brat.

Faraday cages do not bounce EM radiation.  They absorb them.  Pretty significant difference.

Absorption and interference is the same difference. Energy bounces off or gets voided out, it still doesn't go outside the field.

I suppose that depends on how you define "space".  The exosphere can reach out to around 6,200 miles where it merges with the solar wind.  Then again, we've been trying to tell you that space isn't a perfect vacuum for years.  This is why LEO satellites occasionally fall out of orbit and burn up in the denser layers of the atmosphere.

You've also been telling me for years that the (relative) vacuum of space can magically somehow void all friction and if a car were somehow launched into space by super-catapult blaster thingy, rather than falling back to Earth, it could just drive ahead without using a drop of fuel because it's in orbit. Even though this idea fails in vacuum tests.

Perhaps you don't understand that different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation are affected differently by different solids, liquids and gasses.  There is also the fact that ionosphere radio bounce is more of a refractive event than a true bounce.

It's interference with plasma. Radio waves going through a field that knocks it back is akin to this.

Could some signal get through? Maybe? But most of the signal, by your own theory's logic, gets knocked back.

I mean, the entire backbone of anyone who believes that the og moon landing didn't happen is literally the political will behind it. To summarize, people who deny the moon landing believe that it was faked in the first place because the USA had political motives within cold war reasoning. It gives those credit considering Artemis 2 is happening now as China, another Communist country, very recently declared their plans to visit the moon. The USA needs some kind of show of superiority to really care, not human innovation so they claim. They won't do it for earnest reasons when the United States is also preoccupied with the Middle East. Even CBC admits this is another space race.

Also, something something Van Allen belt something something melting tempature of Van Allen belt versus the material the shuttle was made out of and what it melts at or something. I actually don't know anything about the moon landing conspiracy enough to actually care about NASA. Someone else here should though.

Says a spoiled dishonest brat who immediately jumped at the chance to have the gravy train continue. Can I be paid to work on radar systems if I lie about NASA?

So now air traffic controllers who use RADAR systems to keep track thousands of airplanes in the sky are shilling for NASA?

You get paid a ton to be a shill. You are a spoiled dishonest brat.

You are a know-it-all who doesn't know squat.  Do you get paid by the word to go off on wildly unrelated tangents?

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Faraday cages do not bounce EM radiation.  They absorb them.  Pretty significant difference.

Absorption and interference is the same difference. Energy bounces off or gets voided out, it still doesn't go outside the field.

No, there is quite a lot of difference that you can't be bothered with.  Besides, we're talking about a radio transmitter that's still inside your Faraday cage.

You've also been telling me for years that the (relative) vacuum of space can magically somehow void all friction and if a car were somehow launched into space by super-catapult blaster thingy, rather than falling back to Earth, it could just drive ahead without using a drop of fuel because it's in orbit. Even though this idea fails in vacuum tests.

It only fails your vacuum tests because you forgot to hit the switch that turns off gravity in the vacuum chamber.

I'm not sure if I ever said that the vacuum of space voids all friction, but for relatively small objects over short periods (days or weeks) the friction is small enough that it may as well be completely friction free.   However, larger satellites (like the ISS) in LEO are big enough and still inside enough of what's left of the atmosphere that atmospheric drag does become an issue after a while and its orbit must be raised about 1-2 times per month.  Again, this is old news that you should be aware of before you try to argue against it.

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Perhaps you don't understand that different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation are affected differently by different solids, liquids and gasses.  There is also the fact that ionosphere radio bounce is more of a refractive event than a true bounce.

It's interference with plasma. Radio waves going through a field that knocks it back is akin to this.

Sorry but I prefer to discuss real world physics in the "serious" discussion boards, not Hollywood sci-fi physics.  Star Wars is science fantasy, not a documentary.

Says a spoiled dishonest brat who immediately jumped at the chance to have the gravy train continue. L

Vs you Bulma that can’t look up and simply see the earth has a natural satellite of mass in orbit in space.  And can’t take the time to study the moon through a telescope over various phases.   Only has opinions based on filtered lies from flat earth cons.






Or Bulma, take the time to watch a comet when one is visible.  You know.  The scientists that you claim are liars but give better tracking and forecasts regarding comets than useless flat earth.



Notice the difference Bulma.  You post useless babble and pictures of Bill Clinton.  Vs where I watch the actual sky and document things out of genuine curiosity. 

I'm not sure if I ever said that the vacuum of space voids all friction, but for relatively small objects over short periods (days or weeks) the friction is small enough that it may as well be completely friction free.   However, larger satellites (like the ISS) in LEO are big enough and still inside enough of what's left of the atmosphere that atmospheric drag does become an issue after a while and its orbit must be raised about 1-2 times per month.  Again, this is old news that you should be aware of before you try to argue against it.

Funny flat earthers claim to understand RE.  Then for whatever reason, total ignorance to right out lying, butcher RE to create false narrative / arguments.  Then use those same false narratives / arguments like they have never been addressed. 

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on April 06, 2026, 06:14:01 AM

Says a spoiled dishonest brat who immediately jumped at the chance to have the gravy train continue. Can I be paid to work on radar systems if I lie about NASA?

So now air traffic controllers who use RADAR systems to keep track thousands of airplanes in the sky are shilling for NASA?

Apparently so. How much extra are you paid to go on this forum? Anything to pay the bills, I guess. Whereas I'd prefer to die than shill for anyone.  Meanwhile, something I agree with, I'd defend for free.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on April 06, 2026, 06:14:01 AM

You get paid a ton to be a shill. You are a spoiled dishonest brat.

You are a know-it-all who doesn't know squat.  Do you get paid by the word to go off on wildly unrelated tangents?

I don't get paid anything. Except room and board. And maybe if you count Christmas money. That works out to a few hundred a year plus occasional (typically under $20, and sometimes under $1 increments) sales from books or video games I've made. Should we see if you guys' income looks the same?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on April 06, 2026, 06:14:01 AM

You've also been telling me for years that the (relative) vacuum of space can magically somehow void all friction and if a car were somehow launched into space by super-catapult blaster thingy, rather than falling back to Earth, it could just drive ahead without using a drop of fuel because it's in orbit. Even though this idea fails in vacuum tests.

It only fails your vacuum tests because you forgot to hit the switch that turns off gravity in the vacuum chamber.

Turns off gravity. Right... "Gravity" is defined by atmosphere. It's buoyancy. Without ground, water, or air to stand upon, a feather drops like an anvil.

This is hilarious. No way should the balloon thing fall faster than the 500 lb anvil. Coyote is like 135 lb maybe soaking wet, and the balloon basket is sturdy metal, sure but the mass is dispersed. He should hit free fall, and tumble out of the basket maybe. I'd imagine a Coyote sandwich between anvil and basket. But I'm not sure, as I have not done any free fall experiments. 

I'm not sure if I ever said that the vacuum of space voids all friction, but for relatively small objects over short periods (days or weeks) the friction is small enough that it may as well be completely friction free.   However, larger satellites (like the ISS) in LEO are big enough and still inside enough of what's left of the atmosphere that atmospheric drag does become an issue after a while and its orbit must be raised about 1-2 times per month.  Again, this is old news that you should be aware of before you try to argue against it.

Basically, this zero friction fantasy is how you guys rationalize away how a shuttle doesn't waste all its fuel going to Mars after tossing away the main booster.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on April 06, 2026, 06:14:01 AM

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Perhaps you don't understand that different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation are affected differently by different solids, liquids and gasses.  There is also the fact that ionosphere radio bounce is more of a refractive event than a true bounce.

It's interference with plasma. Radio waves going through a field that knocks it back is akin to this.

Sorry but I prefer to discuss real world physics in the "serious" discussion boards, not Hollywood sci-fi physics.  Star Wars is science fantasy, not a documentary.

Plasma is a fourth state of matter that I learned about in 6th grade science. The asteroid field being by way of analogy that energy is passing through a thick field of energy.

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The waves hit, and it's a sure thing they get bounced.
 

Apparently

What are you babbling about. Holy cow.

Bulma. You can’t even keep the same idea and build on it for five sentences.  You’re literally all over the place, thrashing about, grasping at straws. 

The flat earth model was proven irrelevant and useless centuries ago being superseded with the more useful and accurate heliocentric solar system. 

Simple.  Moon is the natural satellite of earth that has mass and is orbiting the earth in space without hitting a physical firmament / dome.  Where there is no dome physically blocking charged particles from the sun from reaching the Van Allen Belts.

There is no reason a rocket can’t reach the moon being a large natural satellite with mass.

How much extra are you paid to go on this forum?

Why would you think that I get paid anything to post here?

This is hilarious. No way should the balloon thing fall faster than the 500 lb anvil.

No kidding.  Why do you keep bringing up cartoon or other fictional physics as if that’s what RE says?

Basically, this zero friction fantasy is how you guys rationalize away how a shuttle doesn't waste all its fuel going to Mars after tossing away the main booster.

FFS.  The shuttle was never designed or intended to go beyond LEO. 

Plasma is a fourth state of matter that I learned about in 6th grade science. The asteroid field being by way of analogy that energy is passing through a thick field of energy.

Oh, I know that plasma is a state of matter.  It’s just not a very dense state of matter (or energy), especially in the upper layers of the atmosphere or in space. 

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis/nasas-artemis-ii-moon-mission-daily-agenda/

Here we go buckle up as flat earth flat-tards all foaming at the mouth go into conspiracy overdrive as the new moon mission is due to blast off tomorrow for a 10 day or so flight around the moon. No doubt it will send back amazing images of both the moon and the spherical earth.
Despite all that flat-tards will do what they do best and that is to deny deny deny and claim it’s all fake and part of some elaborate conspiracy!
This is why there can never be a debate about the nature of the earth as there is nothing to debate. When all said and done it all comes down to the question: Are you prepared to reject all of science along with the overwhelming evidence of the existence of space flight and satellites in favor of a belief in some elaborate conspiracy that flies in the face of all the evidence?

Earths curvature according to theory is 8 inches x (miles to target) squared = inches drop from straight forward
In as many words as truly necessary, pls explain to the kindly yet bewildered people how you have tested and account for this.

Quote from: Timeisup on April 01, 2026, 01:45:30 PM

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis/nasas-artemis-ii-moon-mission-daily-agenda/

Here we go buckle up as flat earth flat-tards all foaming at the mouth go into conspiracy overdrive as the new moon mission is due to blast off tomorrow for a 10 day or so flight around the moon. No doubt it will send back amazing images of both the moon and the spherical earth.
Despite all that flat-tards will do what they do best and that is to deny deny deny and claim it’s all fake and part of some elaborate conspiracy!
This is why there can never be a debate about the nature of the earth as there is nothing to debate. When all said and done it all comes down to the question: Are you prepared to reject all of science along with the overwhelming evidence of the existence of space flight and satellites in favor of a belief in some elaborate conspiracy that flies in the face of all the evidence?

Earths curvature according to theory is 8 inches x (miles to target) squared = inches drop from straight forward
In as many words as truly necessary, pls explain to the kindly yet bewildered people how you have tested and account for this.

Repeadly address in other threads..

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on March 20, 2026, 07:12:49 AM

 and you aren't digging 8 Inches Per Mile Squared,

Maybe you should understand context before you butcher something.

How looking out to sea or over the earth is in practice as pointed out to you countless times.

Not to scale.


Which explains why things beyond three miles starts to become blocked bottom up.

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Turning Torso (190m tall) - seen from 25km - 50km

Which explains radar horizon for line of sight radar.





Radar proves the earth is spherical.  FE never was a real thing.


By the way.  Let’s take your picture and put it more to a 3 mile view to the horizon.





It be like…






The tank is obviously curved.  But when you are close to the surface like we are on the earth, our frame of reference is small and the curvature of the tank isn’t obvious until you step back 20 feet.  But even a small straight edge doesn’t show curvature when held against the much larger curvature of the tank. 

Which leads into the dip of the horizon because the earth is spherical.

Where you also ignore the dip of the horizon.

https://mctoon.net/photos-of-the-curve/

To be more on topic.  There is a current manned moon mission broadcasting from space from a flyby around the moon.  Where China has different moon missions broadcasting data from the moon.  Do you have any evidence that the moon isn’t a natural satellite of earth with mass in space orbiting earth. And why in either model you wouldn’t be able to make it to the moon’s location.

Apparently l

An astronaut on the current moon mission has glorified God / Jesus more than you ever will Bulma.

NASA Astronaut Victor Glover Shares Gospel Message Before Losing Signal with Earth

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/04/06/nasa-astronaut-victor-glover-shares-gospel-message-losing-signal/

Glover shared how Jesus Christ said that the “greatest command” was to “love God with all that you are,” and added that the second greatest commandment is for people “to love your neighbor as yourself.”

Matthew 22:36-40 shares that Jesus stated the greatest commandment is to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.” Jesus also adds that the second greatest commandment is to “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

Sorry Bulma, FE in your context is a lie.  And unfortunately posting on this site is more like paying evil for evil.  Something I should get away from.

Romans 12:17-21
New International Version

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[a] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
    if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Our we children of wrath, or is there a better way. 

Ephesians 2:3
ESV

among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

Nowhere in the bible does it say salvation hinges on your butchered model of the solar system. 

So, can a flat Earther tell me who is in on the conspiracy with the current moon mission.  Certainly, the 4 astronauts that come from 2 different countries have to be in on it.  Who in NASA set up the false launch.  Who at mission control knows? Who in the Canadian Space Agency knows?  Does president Trump know?  Does prime minister Mark Carney of Canada know?  How many people would you say are in on this conspiracy for this one specific mission. Where does this conspiracy start and stop on this specific mission. 

Quote from: Timeisup on April 01, 2026, 01:45:30 PM

https://www.nasa.gov/missions/artemis/nasas-artemis-ii-moon-mission-daily-agenda/

Here we go buckle up as flat earth flat-tards all foaming at the mouth go into conspiracy overdrive as the new moon mission is due to blast off tomorrow for a 10 day or so flight around the moon. No doubt it will send back amazing images of both the moon and the spherical earth.
Despite all that flat-tards will do what they do best and that is to deny deny deny and claim it’s all fake and part of some elaborate conspiracy!
This is why there can never be a debate about the nature of the earth as there is nothing to debate. When all said and done it all comes down to the question: Are you prepared to reject all of science along with the overwhelming evidence of the existence of space flight and satellites in favor of a belief in some elaborate conspiracy that flies in the face of all the evidence?

Earths curvature according to theory is 8 inches x (miles to target) squared = inches drop from straight forward
In as many words as truly necessary, pls explain to the kindly yet bewildered people how you have tested and account for this.

Are you  paying attention? Have you ever gone outside and looked up?
A space mission was launched last week.
Ten thousand or so satellites are currently in orbit, many of which can be seen with a reasonable pair of binoculars.
Weather satellites stream images of the earth 24/7 as do satellites that study the oceans and landmasses.
Tested what? What is there to test other than your own sanity.
If you wish to live with your head down a prehistoric hole ignoring the past 2000 years of science and knowledge then that’s your sad problem.
If you wish to buy into a silly conspiracy theory and use that as your whole basis for your prehistoric belief then that’s your problem.
The real question is how do you account for your rejection for the whole of science in favour of a conspiracy that has no basis in reality. Answer that!

Am i paying attention to what, just to be clear. Do you think data o f  adequately adressed my concerns?