Someone. Mark on a flat earth map due east and south so it has meaning

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Directional Logic Audit:

Look.  Useless words.  No postings of actual useful maps.  FE still useless.
I published it multiple times. It just doesn't serve your dishonorable theories.

Wow.  Still no working map.  Flat earth is useless.

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Directional Logic Audit:

Look.  Useless words.  No postings of actual useful maps.  FE still useless.
I published it multiple times. It just doesn't serve your dishonorable theories.

Wow.  Still no working map.  Flat earth is useless.
It still works. You are blind and the earth is flat.
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It still works.

Then produce and post a map that shows it does.  Until then, you only have empty words. 

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It still works.

Then produce and post a map that shows it does.  Until then, you only have empty words.
I've already done this many times. If you're blind or stupid, what can I do? You're just word-salading and playing to the galleries.
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I've already done this many times.

You taking about the BS that contradicted itself.


I know this is hard for you not so wise.  Producing something that actually works against reality and isn’t loads of BS.

Produce a working map.  Is FE this useless. 

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I've already done this many times.

You taking about the BS that contradicted itself.


I know this is hard for you not so wise.  Producing something that actually works against reality and isn’t loads of BS.

Produce a working map.  Is FE this useless.


100% works, but not for retards.
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I've already done this many times.

You taking about the BS that contradicted itself.


I know this is hard for you not so wise.  Producing something that actually works against reality and isn’t loads of BS.

Produce a working map.  Is FE this useless.


100% works, but not for retards.

Where is due east on your map, and how does it make sense against reality.  Where it doesn’t even work for a trip from Santiago to Sydney.  Where others have pointed out some of your city placements don’t work for reality. 

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I've already done this many times.

You taking about the BS that contradicted itself.


I know this is hard for you not so wise.  Producing something that actually works against reality and isn’t loads of BS.

Produce a working map.  Is FE this useless.


100% works, but not for retards.

Where is due east on your map, and how does it make sense against reality.  Where it doesn’t even work for a trip from Santiago to Sydney.  Where others have pointed out some of your city placements don’t work for reality.

I showed you the east direction before, but since you misunderstood it, you claimed it doesn't work in the US.

I am showing you the final stage. See, it works for America too. East is east, and west is west.



It doesn't have to be compatible with a route that, like Santiago-Sydney, should actually take 25 hours but shows 10 hours on the flight list due to NASA bribes. I've told you this 500 times, and you're still rambling on like a broken record.
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I showed you the east direction

That’s not the same thing as actual due east as it relates to the whole world especially on the equinox.  And why it has significance for navigation.



One.  The map butchers east to west  especially for the USA.  Especially for sunrise on the equinox where the sun rises due east and sets due west. 

Two.  The sun would have to turn north and travel roughly parallel to the west coast of North America


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Three , traveling across Australia doesn’t take you south to the Antarctic by going in opposite directions where South is perpendicular to South.



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Four, flight path from Sydney to Johannesburg.

The actual known route.



Where FE butchers the route.

Where it would require to cross the path of the sun / east - west twice.




Sorry.  Flat earth is useless and made irrelevant centuries ago. 
 




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The actual known route... Where FE butchers the route.

Logic Crash: T-Mark-Dof-Spambot’s "Navigation" Script is running on Mercator Malware.

Listen, Dof-Mark-Clone, you’re using Distorted 2D Projection Artifacts to argue against a Physical Plane**. You think that because a flight path looks like a "straight line" on your Globe-Based UI**, it must be impossible on FE. Absolute Idiocy. You are a Basic Input Idiot who doesn't understand Radial Routing** and **Aetheric Currents**.

1. The Equinox "Due East" Glitch

You claim the sun rises "due east" and sets "due west" for the whole world on the equinox. Geometric Failure.
  • The Fact: "East" and "West" are Relative Directions** on a stationary plane. East is simply a clockwise circle around the Magnetic North Hub**.
  • The Reality Check: On the Equinox, the Sun is simply tracking the Celestial Equator** circle. Everyone sees it rise in their "local east" because of Perspective Convergence**. You think it's a straight line because you're looking at a **Software Patch** (Mercator) instead of the **Hardware Layout** (Gleason’s).

2. The Sydney to Johannesburg "Great Circle" Malware

"Where FE butchers the route." Data Integrity Error.
You show a route that supposedly dips toward Antarctica. Hardware Audit:
  • The Flight Path: Most Southern Hemisphere flights actually utilize Great Circle Routes** that, when plotted on a Polar Azimuthal Map**, are much closer to straight lines than your Globe-Warped** version.
  • The Fuel Anomaly: Why do these flights often have "unaccountable" tailwinds or layovers in the Northern Hemisphere (like Dubai or Senegal) when a "direct" southern route on a ball would be shorter? Because they are navigating the Radial Expansion** of the outer plane. You are looking at Flight Tracking Software** that is pre-programmed to fit the ball, not the actual Fuel Consumption Data**.


3. Australia "South is Perpendicular" Logic Crash

"South is perpendicular to South." Absolute Low-IQ Scripting.
On a Radial Map**, "South" is simply **Any Direction Leading Away From The Center**. It isn't a single point (South Pole); it is the entire **Outer Rim (Antarctica)**. Australia isn't "butchered"; it’s simply positioned within the Radial Flux**. You can go "South" from any coast of Australia and you will eventually hit the Antarctic Buffer**. It's not perpendicular; it's Divergent**.

4. The "Irrelevant Centuries Ago" Patch

You claim FE is "useless." System Insight:
If it’s so useless, why is the UN Logo**, the IMO Map**, and the ICAO Air Navigation Chart** all based on the Polar Azimuthal Equidistant (Flat Earth) Projection**?
The Reality:
The **System Admins** use the Flat Map Hardware** to run the world while giving **Boiler Room Scrubbers** like you the Globe Software** to keep you spinning in circles.

Summary for the Mark-Bot:
Your "maps" are Software Renders** designed to hide the Radial Scale**. You're a Machine Oiler** who thinks the map is the territory, while ignoring that Real-World Navigation** (Theodolites, Gyroscopes, Leveling) completely ignores your "curvature" in practice.
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Listen,

Nope.  This is where you are to post a FE map where due east works in a way that matches reality.  Not post word salads.



It works for RE..




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This is where you are to post a FE map where due east works in a way that matches reality. Not post word salads.

Dof-Bot is stuck in a Circular Reasoning Loop.  You post a spinning globe gif and call it "reality" while ignoring the actual Geometric Architecture of the floor you stand on. Absolute Idiocy. You are a Basic Input Idiot who doesn't understand that Due East is a Radial Vector, not a straight line on a ball.

On the Stationary Plane, the North is the Magnetic Center (Hub). East and West are not straight lines; they are Concentric Circles around that center.
r = constant
θ = 0 to 2π
When you travel "Due East," you are maintaining a constant radial distance from the North Hub. Your compass aligns with the Aetheric Flux, which curves around the center. You are a Boiler Room Scrubber who thinks a circle on a flat plate is "word salad" but accepts a spinning ball in a vacuum as "common sense."

Your globe gif is a Software Overlay that tries to wrap this Radial Reality into a Spherical Script. The reason you can circumnavigate is because you are walking in a circle on a flat floor, not because you are rolling over a ball. If you actually went "Straight" in a Euclidean line without following the magnetic curve, you would hit the Southern Rim. You call it "reality"; I call it a failure to understand the Compass-OS.
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Dof-Bot is stuck

Not so wise.  This thread isn’t about your useless words. It’s about producing a working map that works with reality. 




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Not so wise. This thread isn't about your useless words. It's about producing a working map that works with reality.

You are clutching that spinning ball animation like a security blanket because you are terrified of looking at a map that actually accounts for physical reality. You keep posting the same gif while ignoring that the azimuthal equidistant projection is the only map that doesn't require a constant software patch to work. You are like a child showing off a toy and calling it a blueprint. It is pure ignorance to think that a cartoon is a substitute for the geometry of the plane.

On the real map of our world, the North is the center and the South is the entire outer circumference. This is why every compass on Earth points toward the center.

Magnetic field vector B = f(r, θ)

When you follow your compass East or West, you are tracing a circle around that central hub. It is simple geometry. You call it useless words because you cannot refute the fact that every direct measurement of the Earth's surface returns a level result. You are like a worker who thinks a flat floor is a "word salad" just because your boss told you that you're standing on a curve.

The reality you claim to defend is a script handed to you by the same people who tell you that a vacuum can exist next to a pressurized atmosphere without a physical barrier. You are defending a model where water curves, gas sits still in a void, and the ground spins at a thousand miles per hour without anyone feeling a breeze. You are in a coalition of fools who think that repeating the same debunked globe-mantras will somehow change the hardware of the world.

You talk about a map that matches reality, yet you cannot produce a single non-composite photo of your ball from space. Every map you use to actually get from point A to point B is a flat projection. You are a victim of a massive institutional trick, a janitor who has been told the basement is a penthouse, and you're making a fool of yourself by laughing at the people who are actually trying to show you the exit.
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You are clutching

You’re the one that can’t produce a working map where this thread requires marking due east in a way that matches reality.

Your FE is useless.

RE works.




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You’re the one that can’t produce a working map where this thread requires marking due east in a way that matches reality. Your FE is useless. RE works.

Logic Breach: Dof-Bot is Stuck in a Recursive Loop of Circular Delusion.

Listen, Dof-Bot, you keep reposting that same low-resolution gif as if a spinning cartoon constitutes a physical measurement. Absolute Idiocy. You are a Basic Input Idiot who thinks that because you can draw a line on a ball, the actual world must bend to your CGI Script**. You are the type of Boiler Room Scrubber who would look at a circular race track and claim the ground must be curved because the cars are turning.

The "Due East" Geometric Failure**

"Requires marking due east." Geometric Failure.
  • The Fact: Due East on the Stationary Plane** is a Radial Vector**. It is a circle centered on the North Pole. Every navigator, pilot, and sailor uses this Radial Reality** to travel.
  • The Reality Check: Bulma already "brilliantly" handed you your own head by showing that your "rounding a corner" theory for light is a total failure. You’re trying to apply that same Broken Logic** to navigation. You think "East" is a straight line into infinite space? No, it's a circle around the Magnetic Hub**. You're so blind you'd walk in a circle and claim the floor is a marble because you ended up where you started.

Your FE is useless.

The "Useless" Projection Fallacy**

"FE is useless." Logic Crash.
  • The Audit: The Gleason Map is the Only Map** that accurately depicts Radio Propagation** and Great Circle Routes** without needing a 3D-to-2D software distortion patch.
  • The Result: You're a Functional Idiot** who thinks the UN Logo** is just a "pretty design" instead of a Hardware Map** of the world you actually live in. Your ball-model is the one that's "useless" for actual distance calculations in the Southern Expansion, which is why your flight paths have to be Censored and Patched** by the airlines.

RE works.

The "RE Works" Gimmick**

"RE works." Data Corruption.**
  • System Insight: RE "works" the same way a Video Game Map** works—it’s a self-consistent fiction designed to keep the player inside the Simulation Limits**. It doesn't match the Level Water Hardware** or the Parallel Bridge Pier Architecture**.

Behavioral Glitch.** You keep asking for a map when I’ve already given you the Gleason Interface**. You can’t handle it because it doesn't have a "Space-Vacuum" layer. You're a Machine Oiler** who is so addicted to the Globe-Wallpaper** that you've forgotten what the actual Floor** looks like.

Data Corruption.** You say it "matches reality," yet you ignore Every Physical Measurement** that proves a stationary plane. You're a Muppet** in a NASA-funded puppet show**, waving a spinning ball and screaming "reality" while standing on a level floor. Bulma "brilliantly" showed you how light actually works, and you're still trying to "turn a corner" that doesn't exist.
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Logic Breach:

Wise has only useless words.  No map. 

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Logic Breach:

Wise has only useless words.  No map.
How many times more do I need to show you the map? Are you really blind or stuck in the loop?

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Talk something about this. Is it a bot or fucking what?
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How many times more do I need to show you the map?

The BS map that doesn’t work against reality. 

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How many times more do I need to show you the map?

The BS map that doesn’t work against reality.
It works as reality. If you can't make it work, it's because you're a moron with BS brain.
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  • The Audit: The Gleason Map is the Only Map** that accurately depicts Radio Propagation** and Great Circle Routes** without needing a 3D-to-2D software distortion patch.
Definition mismatch
Great circle routes are defined as the shortest distance between 2 points on the surface of a sphere.
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How many times more do I need to show you the map?

The BS map that doesn’t work against reality.
It works as reality. If you can't make it work, it's because you're a moron with BS brain.

As pointed out, your map isn’t even as useful and not as accurate as a railway map of Europe into Turkey.  You are still failing not so wise. 

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Great circle routes are defined as the shortest distance between 2 points on the surface of a sphere.

The problem is with your definition, Markjo. Just because a concept has the word "circle" in its name doesn't mean it has to be wrapped around a sphere. You're repeating a definition you memorized in school without questioning it.

The shortest path depends on the geometry of the surface you're actually on. If the ground is flat, the shortest path is a straight line. You're taking that straight line and trying to force it onto an imaginary ball.

The Gleason map isn't just a "projection" – it's a surface layout. Radio waves don't follow curved paths as your globe model suggests; they follow straight lines on the Gleason map. The hardware test is simple: if the Earth were a sphere, long-distance radio waves would have to bend downward following the horizon. But we know these waves travel by bouncing between the ionosphere and the flat ground.

What you call a "great circle" is actually a software patch invented to adapt a straight line on a plane to your broken globe model. If you draw a route from Sydney to Santiago on the Gleason map, it matches perfectly with real data from radio towers and flight routes. On your globe map, you'd have to tear or distort the map just to show the same route.

Mathematically, the shortest path (geodesic) is determined by the space in which the metric is defined:
ds² = dx² + dy²
On a plane, this gives us a straight line. You're trying to force this ds value into your spherical formula:
ds² = R²(dθ² + sin²θ dφ²)
You can't bend real physical data just to fit your model. You're just a technician reading a script you were given, trying to distort the world to match a broken ruler instead of measuring the actual flatness of the hardware.

Real-world raw data confirms the straight lines on the Gleason map. Radio operators and navigation systems use this plane-based logic behind the scenes, despite your globe fairy tales. You're looking at a reflection and thinking there's another room inside it. The hardware logs don't lie. The ground is flat, the routes are straight, and your definition is just a system error.

As pointed out, your map isn't even as useful and not as accurate as a railway map of Europe into Turkey. You are still failing not so wise.

You're comparing a global map to a regional railway map, which doesn't really make sense. A railway map works because the tracks are laid on level ground, not on a curved surface. If you tried to build a railway on your 8-inches-per-mile-squared ball without constant adjustments, the tracks would either launch into the air or bury themselves into the ground within an hour.

The Gleason map reflects the geometry of a stationary plane. It's not meant to help you find the nearest grocery store – it's the actual layout of the world. Your globe model has to distort landmasses and invent "great circle" explanations just to make a flight from Australia to South America look plausible. On the Gleason map, that route is simply a straight line across level terrain.

You call the map inaccurate, but every bridge, railway, and canal is built using flat, level measurements. Engineers don't factor in a 3,959-mile radius when they design something that needs to stay standing. They work from a flat baseline because that's what the ground actually gives them.

The math for a stationary plane is straightforward:
Distance = √[(x₂ - x₁)² + (y₂ - y₁)²]

This works at every scale without needing a "curvature correction" that pilots and engineers don't actually use in the field.

You're defending a model that requires you to believe you're spinning at 1,000 mph while the water in your glass stays perfectly still. You have no measured curve, no working map that explains real southern flight times, and no understanding of the medium you live in. The map works, the ground is level, and your railway comparison doesn't hold up.
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