Are you feeling safer?

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2025, 07:46:57 AM »

Meanwhile, there’s stuff like this happening:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/09/racist-mob-menacing-refugee-children-far-right
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No stuff like this is not happening, as long as it is in an opinion piece by an author who doesn't want to stand by their word, as opposed to a news report. The story you linked is a lie unless a proper source can be found.

nice use of smf quote functionality

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #121 on: September 09, 2025, 08:07:13 AM »

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #122 on: September 09, 2025, 08:10:12 AM »
the world may actually be coming apart at the seams

id prefer another scamdemic over all the recent news of how godawful human bipeds can be

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #123 on: September 09, 2025, 08:17:13 AM »
the world may actually be coming apart at the seams


Finally some recognition of RE.

A beach ball has seams.

A frisbee does not.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #124 on: September 09, 2025, 08:19:59 AM »
the world may actually be coming apart at the seams


Finally some recognition of RE.

A beach ball has seams.

A frisbee does not.

>trying too hard

but still better than 99% of RE posts here

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2025, 11:31:24 AM »

Meanwhile, there’s stuff like this happening:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/sep/09/racist-mob-menacing-refugee-children-far-right

No stuff like this is not happening, as long as it is in an opinion piece by an author who doesn't want to stand by their word, as opposed to a news report. The story you linked is a lie unless a proper source can be found.

Local news seems to match the account pretty well. 

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/faversham/news/police-called-in-as-hundreds-of-protestors-and-counter-demon-329532/


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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #126 on: September 09, 2025, 03:27:10 PM »
Is Reform a new right wing party? Also, how does anyone know the mob was emboldened by them?

This is from the article you posted -

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“Underneath it this looks to me as if it’s very class based – there’s one side that seems to be better represented, and then there’s a whole pile of people who generally feel that they have not been listened to.

“I’ve never seen this many people out on the streets and so angry.”

I think the media is making sure these flames are fanned. Gotta get them clicks.

(I can't tell if the person being quoted is saying the pro or anti side feel they haven't been listened to. The pro immigration side has printed signs, so maybe they're the better represented? idk)

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A spokesman for Kent Police said: “Kent Police officers attended locations in Faversham on Saturday, September 6 to ensure protests by groups with opposing views remained peaceful.

“No serious disorder was reported and there were no arrests.”

So a shouty but mostly peaceful protest? The Guardian made it sound like the KKK were marching through the streets.
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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #127 on: September 09, 2025, 04:46:22 PM »

So a shouty but mostly peaceful protest? The Guardian made it sound like the KKK were marching through the streets.

Typical behaviour of alleged journalists.

It's like a chef taking a perfectly good casserole and garnishing it with rat droppings. The ingredients remain 99,9% the same but nobody in their right mind would want to eat it.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #128 on: September 09, 2025, 07:19:33 PM »

So a shouty but mostly peaceful protest? The Guardian made it sound like the KKK were marching through the streets.

Typical behaviour of alleged journalists.

It's like a chef taking a perfectly good casserole and garnishing it with rat droppings. The ingredients remain 99,9% the same but nobody in their right mind would want to eat it.
Ewww, lucky I wasn't eating then!

Lol, "99.9% the same". Sometimes 0.1% isn't so insignificant after all.
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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #129 on: September 09, 2025, 07:52:14 PM »

Ewww, lucky I wasn't eating then!

Lol, "99.9% the same". Sometimes 0.1% isn't so insignificant after all.

"The Devil is in the details".

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #130 on: September 10, 2025, 02:52:11 AM »

So a shouty but mostly peaceful protest? The Guardian made it sound like the KKK were marching through the streets.

Typical behaviour of alleged journalists.

It's like a chef taking a perfectly good casserole and garnishing it with rat droppings. The ingredients remain 99,9% the same but nobody in their right mind would want to eat it.

Haha.

Weren’t you just linking to the Daily Mail and Express?

What a fantastic record they have on the subject of immigration.  Telling their readers that leaving the EU would sort all the issues out.  Never a hint of remorse for the economic clusterfuck it caused or for the fact it didn’t solve a single thing.  Never any mention of the fact that the issue of people crossing by boat they are whipping into a frenzy over hardly existed at all before Brexit.

Nope, they’ve just moved on to the next target, leaving the ECHR so we can kick out all these asylum seekers endangering women.  Yeah, after throwing away our rights in Europe, let’s throw them away at home too!  Brilliant!

I can understand people being conned once, but people must be real fucking idiots to listen to the same shit peddled by all the same shitheads again.

And I guess you failed to notice the Guardian article was the account of a resident, not a journalist.  What they saw from their perspective.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #131 on: September 10, 2025, 02:57:15 AM »


Haha.

Weren’t you just linking to the Daily Mail and Express?

What a fantastic record they have on the subject of immigration.  Telling their readers that leaving the EU would sort all the issues out.  Never a hint of remorse for the economic clusterfuck it caused or for the fact it didn’t solve a single thing.  Never any mention of the fact that the issue of people crossing by boat they are whipping into a frenzy over hardly existed at all before Brexit.

Nope, they’ve just moved on to the next target, leaving the ECHR so we can kick out all these asylum seekers endangering women.  Yeah, after throwing away our rights in Europe, let’s throw them away at home too!  Brilliant!

I can understand people being conned once, but people must be real fucking idiots to listen to the same shit peddled by all the same shitheads again.

And I guess you failed to notice the Guardian article was the account of a resident, not a journalist.  What they saw from their perspective.

Ha-ha.

Are you doing a whataboutism?

I said "alleged journalist".

The author is anonymous so you have no idea who or what they are.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #132 on: September 10, 2025, 03:40:54 AM »
Only alleged by you, just as you alleged it was all lies and wasn’t happening.  Which you’ve now had to row back 99.9% on, because you didn’t bother to check other news sources to see if it actually was lies.

Meanwhile all the same people scaremongering about immigration, just as they did a decade ago with disastrous results.  Once again peddling the solution as pulling even more out of Europe. 

Call that whataboutery if you like.  You’d still have to be a moron to fall for it again.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #133 on: September 10, 2025, 04:40:49 PM »
Only alleged by you, just as you alleged it was all lies and wasn’t happening.  Which you’ve now had to row back 99.9% on, because you didn’t bother to check other news sources to see if it actually was lies.

Meanwhile all the same people scaremongering about immigration, just as they did a decade ago with disastrous results.  Once again peddling the solution as pulling even more out of Europe. 

Call that whataboutery if you like.  You’d still have to be a moron to fall for it again.

It was lies. There is no evidence that the character of the event was what the secret identity liar made it out to be.

It might be interesting for you to discover that it is a common tactic among propagandists to package lies with elements of truth.


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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #134 on: September 11, 2025, 02:06:06 AM »
It might be interesting for you to discover that it is a common tactic among propagandists to package lies with elements of truth.
That's one way propaganda can work. Exaggeration, suppression of unfavourable facts, cherry picking, and more tactics that I cannot remember get used.

When some news causes anger, if one steps back and questions why, they may find the article was using anything from emotionally charged statements to flat out propaganda lies.
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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #135 on: September 11, 2025, 01:30:37 PM »
Only alleged by you, just as you alleged it was all lies and wasn’t happening.  Which you’ve now had to row back 99.9% on, because you didn’t bother to check other news sources to see if it actually was lies.

Meanwhile all the same people scaremongering about immigration, just as they did a decade ago with disastrous results.  Once again peddling the solution as pulling even more out of Europe. 

Call that whataboutery if you like.  You’d still have to be a moron to fall for it again.

It was lies. There is no evidence that the character of the event was what the secret identity liar made it out to be.

It might be interesting for you to discover that it is a common tactic among propagandists to package lies with elements of truth.

Another resident quoted in the local rag said there was a fascist element to the protests.  The town vicar said the community was frightened.

Clearly not everyone thought the “character of the event” was a fun day out for family.

The substantial claims in the guardian piece are corroborated.  First a bunch of people went around putting up flags- check.  Hundreds of anti immigrant protesters descend on the small town to march on a residence for unaccompanied minors- check.  Counter demonstration mainly by locals- check.  Bikers riding around after  joining the anti immigration crowd - check.

What do you know about the “character of the event” to call someone a liar for telling their side?  Were you there?

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #136 on: September 11, 2025, 05:55:10 PM »


Another resident quoted in the local rag said there was a fascist element to the protests.  The town vicar said the community was frightened.



Non-specific allegations corroborate nothing.

The author who is unwilling to go on the record is still a liar, and the burden of proof is not on me.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #137 on: September 13, 2025, 09:15:30 PM »
spacegirl be cooking and im here for it
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #138 on: September 14, 2025, 12:19:07 AM »
Yesterday, 100000-150000 people joined a far right rally in London led by the country’s most famous racist shit, EDL founder Tommy Robinson (Stephen Yaxley Lennon)

Guess speakers at this supposed demonstration of British patriotism included French far-right politician Eric Zemmour, Alternative für Deutschland’s Petr Bystron, Steve Bannon (US), and Elon Musk (US).  I think see a common thread here, and it’s not English or British culture. 

Musk (by video) tried to use the death of Kirk halfway round the world to incite the crowd.  He called the left “the party of murder” (apparently the fuckwit doesn’t know what a party is).  He claimed violence was coming and they would have to fight or die, and called for the dissolution of parliament. Like our elected government is any of his fucking business.

But maybe none of this happened?  Maybe everyone reporting it is a liar?

PS If you claim someone is lying the burden of proof is in fact on you to show they are lying.
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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #139 on: September 14, 2025, 02:37:59 AM »
Turning the (nuclear armed) UK into a criminal regime is not a private matter for the people of the UK. Such a situation represents a clear and present danger for the UK's neighbors.

What we are seeing, looking from the outside, is a racist, oppressive regime that actively persecutes a particular ethnicity within its borders, up to and including undeniable crimes against humanity. Thousands of children suffered murder, mutilation and all imaginable kinds of physical abuse in a organized campaign of terror which was inflicted by largely one ethnicity against another, with complicity by all levels of government. The evidence that this organized terror has ended is in fact lacking. That a genocide is being prepared is entirely possible. Let us not forget that a girl in a Union Jack dress was something that had to be hidden and suppressed by the powers that be. Denying the existence of a people or ethnicity is a recognized sign of a future genocide. It is arguable that the crimes of the UK regime are more gruesome than the Third Reich's pre-war scorecard. A collapsing economy would be bad enough in isolation, but is a truly terrifying prospect against this backdrop societal chaos.

The present government cannot be allowed to finish its term, it is not a situation that is sustainable for 4 years.

Let us not forget that the Nazi regime felt itself forced to start WW2 even with a slim chance of ultimate victory because they had run the economy into the ground with socialist policies and AH considered it the only way out.

THIS IS NOT YOUR PRIVATE MATTER UK! GET YOUR HOUSE IN ORDER!

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« Reply #140 on: September 14, 2025, 02:59:17 AM »
Hard to tell if you’re just trolling or a deranged extremist nutcase.

I’m guessing the former, but who knows?

Edit:  Oh, wait.  Why didn’t I think of this?  Are you a Musk super fan who hangs onto his every word and hasn’t worked out what a total moron he is yet?
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« Reply #141 on: September 14, 2025, 07:12:05 AM »
I saw some footage of that demonstration yesterday and I was going to ask about it. Hopefully it was mostly peaceful, even if you disagree with them. I know any massive crowd is going to have some violence.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #142 on: September 14, 2025, 08:40:37 AM »
I saw some footage of that demonstration yesterday and I was going to ask about it. Hopefully it was mostly peaceful, even if you disagree with them. I know any massive crowd is going to have some violence.

Not sure I know any more than you.  Decided it wasn’t a good time to take a trip to the big smoke.

I think the majority, probably the vast majority, were there for a peaceful march, but the violence seemed quite significant. One fairly damning thing was the people who broke through barriers and down side streets to circle around the much smaller crowd of counter protesters (around 5000).  They cut off their only exit which meant the police had to basically kettle them for about six hours apparently.  If that were just a few rouge troublemakers they would have been able to push them back quite quickly, so it must have been a pretty big crowd.  Probably still only a minority throwing bottles and stuff, and fewer still prepared to face getting clobbered by a big stick, but plenty bolstering their numbers and backing them up.  This is not a nice thing to do.

Generally, I don’t really know.  It a worrying number of people to go on a march organised by such a notorious douchebag though.  He’s tried to clean up his image over the last few years, but everyone knows he was BNP, EDL and other far right groups, so it’s hardly surprising the racist dicks showed up.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #143 on: September 14, 2025, 05:54:57 PM »
I saw some footage of that demonstration yesterday and I was going to ask about it. Hopefully it was mostly peaceful, even if you disagree with them. I know any massive crowd is going to have some violence.

It was mostlier peaceful and unfierier than a standard BLM 'protest'.

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« Reply #144 on: September 14, 2025, 07:26:10 PM »
Hard to tell if you’re just trolling or a deranged extremist nutcase.

I’m guessing the former, but who knows?

Edit:  Oh, wait.  Why didn’t I think of this?  Are you a Musk super fan who hangs onto his every word and hasn’t worked out what a total moron he is yet?

He's a big fan of Tommy Robinson.
Are you really so blind?
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Did you know Ben Shapiro is poised to take over TPUSA?

What a funny world it is.
https://demstate.com/article/ben-shapiro-takes-over-from-charlie-kirk-plans-nationwide-debate-tour

Hey it's really sad that the guy whos last words to me was "is the media telling the truth about Israel" was shot in the neck, when three days earlier I said you can't be a public figure if you're saying Epstein was working for Mossad, but I will replace him for you. All is well that ends well.

Now let's talk about why identity politics are stupid and racist.

Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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Re: Are you feeling safer?
« Reply #145 on: September 17, 2025, 01:50:46 AM »

POLICE STATE!

Four arrested for projecting pictures of pedophiles on castle walls.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78n455mj08o
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« Reply #146 on: September 17, 2025, 02:30:19 AM »
Jura, do you think Jeffery Epstein worked for, had ties to, or was an asset of an intelligence agency?

If so, which one?
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #147 on: September 17, 2025, 02:34:22 AM »

I have no idea, speculation after the fact using an internet search engine is futile, if he was then he seems to have played it badly, as they killed him.
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« Reply #148 on: September 17, 2025, 02:37:33 AM »
Jura, do you think Jeffery Epstein worked for, had ties to, or was an asset of an intelligence agency?

If so, which one?

I have no idea

OK.
Good talk.

You and Torve have much, much more in common than you'd like to admit.
Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.

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« Reply #149 on: September 17, 2025, 02:53:26 AM »

You and Torve have much, much more in common than you'd like to admit.

Jura has already admitted that we are in fact joined at the hip.