Density doesnt make things go up or down, gravity does.

Objects have mass and density, and exist on the surface. Air has little mass.

They’ve convinced you that everything that exists on Earth would just float around in ‘space’ or air, unless a great and all powerful ‘force’ was within a ball Earth, and grabbed all things from ‘space’ that were all just floating around for no reason!

If you were able to create all life and a place to hold all life upon it to live, what would make sense?

When you build a little world for your ant farm, or your dogs to live in your backyard, you want a fixed and stable and habitable world for them to live in.

You wouldn’t make a spinning ball for them to live on, because they’d fly off of it.

But you make it a spinning ball anyway, and have to figure out how to make them not get flung off of it??

Centrifugal force does exist on Earth, and it is quite prominent. It'll actually repel you slightly from the surface, but gravity simply overpowers it, so you're not flung off the surface.

The birds mass makes it come down through air, no made up force needed.

Real forces act the same way, they emit energy and the objects vary to it. Magnets can’t pull in heavier metal objects but can pull in lighter ones. The mass of the objects is the variable.

Your made up force emits one level of energy, but pulls them all down as if they weee the same mass. For no reason at all, it just happens that way! 

When we jump from a plane into air, we feel no pulling down by a force below us in Earth, but we certainly feel a crosswind hitting us sideways, because wind is a real force.

Real forces are easy to prove existing, can be demonstrated to exist. Unlike your bs fairy tale force which can’t be proven at all, or demonstrated to exist at all.

The birds mass makes it come down through air, no made up force needed.

Then why doesn’t this plunger fall to earth?

Then why isn’t this plunger falling?

From this video..




A hand plunger being supported by a column of air.



The plunger is more dense than the air it’s being supported on. 

Now.  What force is causing the air molecules to bunch up to support a hot air balloon like the air in the trapped cylinder supporting the plunger. 



 A ballon filled with helium Thst has mass ever once in awhile ends up at the house.  For a day or two, its bouncing off the ceiling.  Then after a while it loses enough helium the ballon floats a few feet under the ceiling, but doesn’t fall to the floor.  What force causes the air molecules to bunch up and support the ballon like the air molecules supporting the weight of the plunger in the example.  If you don’t think weight is a real downward force, why does just adding weight to the plunger make it go down more into the cylinder.  Then removing the weight causes the plunger to rise. 

The birds mass makes it come down through air

Mass doesn't just cause acceleration.
You need a force to make it accelerate.
No force, no acceleration.

Real forces act the same way

Yes. Just like gravity.

Magnets can’t pull in heavier metal objects but can pull in lighter ones. The mass of the objects is the variable.

There is more than just the mass of the object that is the variable.
You would already provide footage showing that a MRI exerts a greater force on a larger metal object.
So it is clearly not just a simple case of forces magically providing the same force on every object.


Again, a very simple question for you that you keep avoiding:
Lets say you have a 2 kg object.
Now you go and cut this object in half into 2 identical 1 kg objects.
How does your magical "real" force behave?

Does it magically decide to double the total force so each 1 kg object has the same force as the initial 2 kg object?
Or does the total force remain the same and so each of the 1 kg object instead has half the force of the initial 2 kg object?

Again, we can try this with the wind, lets make that 2 kg object a 1 by 2 m sheet.
Cut it in half into two 1 by 1 m sheets.
We see the force is split equally between the 2 new sheets.
It doesn't magically double.

When we jump from a plane into air, we feel no pulling down by a force below us in Earth, but we certainly feel a crosswind hitting us sideways, because wind is a real force.

Wrong again.
We feel the wind hitting us because it is applying a contact force to your skin and that in turn is transferred through your body.
What you are feeling is the transfer of force through your body.

For gravity, there is no need for that transfer, so you don't feel it.

Just like a magnet would feel the force of a magnet pulling it, because the force of the magnet is not trying to tear it apart or crush it.

Real forces are easy to prove existing, can be demonstrated to exist.

Just like gravity.
With you resorting to desperate lies to try to dismiss it.

The birds mass makes it come down through air, no made up force needed.

Do you don't understand Newton Second Law or you think it is fake, there needs a force to cause an acceleration, not mass.

Real forces act the same way, they emit energy and the objects vary to it. Magnets can’t pull in heavier metal objects but can pull in lighter ones. The mass of the objects is the variable.

Have you heard of something called friction? Magnets cannot pull heavy stuff because either friction is to large or acceleration is to small for you to observe.

Your made up force emits one level of energy, but pulls them all down as if they weee the same mass. For no reason at all, it just happens that way! 

What do you mean by force emitting energy? I have never heard of this concept in any physics textbook. Where is the math behind this? Or you are trying to refer to force transferring energy between objects?

When we jump from a plane into air, we feel no pulling down by a force below us in Earth, but we certainly feel a crosswind hitting us sideways, because wind is a real force.

Yes you do, the force is called gravity, else how would you fall down?

Real forces are easy to prove existing, can be demonstrated to exist. Unlike your bs fairy tale force which can’t be proven at all, or demonstrated to exist at all.

There has been countless demonstrations on how gravity works, please at least look at one simple demonstrations, you don't know it does not means it doesn't exist.

Have you heard of something called friction? Magnets cannot pull heavy stuff because either friction is to large or acceleration is to small for you to observe.

Magnets can't pull heavy stuff because the downwards force (gravity), is greater than the upwards force of the magnet, when the magnet is above the object.

No, it is impossible to not feel an external force acting on us.

A force pulling us in any direction is immediately felt and known by us as a force.

We don’t ever feel ourselves being ‘pulled down from air’ jumping out of a plane.

But we certainly do feel a crosswind after jumping out of a plane into air.

How could any actual force not be felt, isn’t an actual force, it’s a made up bs story of a phantom force that doesn’t exist, cannot act like any actual force, cannot be proven to exist like all actual forces have been proven to exist.

Your force is an absolute joke.

Wind does not vary its strength to each object, and blow them all back by ten or twenty feet!

Wind is a force over a span of distance, that’s why objects with more surface area are hit by a larger area of a span of wind than a smaller object of less surface area. 

The wind is not variable, objects are the variable to wind, to that one force of one strength over a distance or length.

That makes perfect sense.

Nothing makes sense with your made up bs force.

Forces emit energy outward, the end.

Objects are hit by forces, pushed and pulled in by forces, same as we are acted on by forces in many ways as we all know.

Why do we feel a magnet or piece of metal held in our hand being pulled in by a larger magnet as we hold it closer to that magnet?

Because we feel forces acting on us, acting on things we hold onto, and it’s how we know there IS a force acting on us, in various ways.

The stupidest thing I’ve heard about your made up force, is that we never feel it acting on us, never feel it pulling us down to the surface from air, because it’s always acting on us, so we never feel it acting on us constantly and forever and ever all the time.
 
Except if we are on the roof of a building, or the roof of your own house, and sit in the middle of it, you don’t feel a force from below pulling you down from the roof.

If you dangle an arm over the edge of the roof, you don’t feel a force from below pulling down on your dangling arm in the air.

But if your dangling arm is hit by a wind in some direction, you’ll feel that force acting on your arm, more than the rest of you on the roof itself.

The most idiotic claim they’ve made about their bs force, is that after it emits energy outward from the Earths ‘core’, just say it’s got a core, ok, Earths a ball, so it’s got to have a core like sn apple in the middle, right?

Why would there ever be such a ridiculous force? They need to create something so goofy, but must be true if they say so.

Objects don’t exist in the air, life is not born in the air, or lives in the air.

All things, all life, all that exists on Earth today, is on the surface of Earth, on the ground or in its waters, born and live on ground or in its waters.

That’s how everything was created to be, where everything started from, and if you don’t accept it, you’ll never understand that your made up force wouldn’t be needed or helpful at all.

When you have to make up a force that emits out energy, as all actual forces do, you can’t change whatever you want it to do or act like after that point.

Why would your made up force emit energy outward, but measure each objects mass, and balance out how much strength is needed to make them all be pulled down to Earth by a force, at the very same rate of speed and acceleration?  Forces don’t know or care about what they hit or contact after they emit energy.

That’s so stupid to make up, its just obscene!

No, it is impossible to not feel an external force acting on us.

Do you feel 14.7 psi of air pressure acting on you?

A force pulling us in any direction is immediately felt and known by us as a force.

So you define forces as a thing that can be felt? Do you feel the atmospheric pressure acting on you everyday? When you walk, do you feel the friction pushing you?

How could any actual force not be felt, isn’t an actual force, it’s a made up bs story of a phantom force that doesn’t exist, cannot act like any actual force, cannot be proven to exist like all actual forces have been proven to exist.

You mean countless example to prove that gravity exist? The fact that things fall down is enough to disprove the total bs you are talking about. Think about it this way, in the equation calculating buoyancy, gravitational acceleration is literally inside.

Wind does not vary its strength to each object, and blow them all back by ten or twenty feet!

I'm pretty sure wind vary its speed, which changes its strength.

The wind is not variable, objects are the variable to wind, to that one force of one strength over a distance or length.

What are you talking about, what kind of wind blows without changing its speed and direction?

Forces emit energy outward, the end.

What is this mechanism? Please educate me.

The stupidest thing I’ve heard about your made up force, is that we never feel it acting on us, never feel it pulling us down to the surface from air, because it’s always acting on us, so we never feel it acting on us constantly and forever and ever all the time.

First of all, you don't feel the atmospheric pressure acting on you every single moment, second, there is a normal force that balance gravity, but of course you will call this bs instead of picking up a physics textbook and learn about it.
 

If you dangle an arm over the edge of the roof, you don’t feel a force from below pulling down on your dangling arm in the air.

Well I feel it, so you are talking bs. The problem is you just cannot define a physical quantity with your own feeling. It has to base on something subjective, otherwise I can say I felt gravity and you are delusional.

The most idiotic claim they’ve made about their bs force, is that after it emits energy outward from the Earths ‘core’, just say it’s got a core, ok, Earths a ball, so it’s got to have a core like sn apple in the middle, right?

Nobody claims that forces emits energy, I don't know what are you talking about.

Why would there ever be such a ridiculous force? They need to create something so goofy, but must be true if they say so.

Again, the infamous "they", who are "they" exactly?

When you have to make up a force that emits out energy, as all actual forces do, you can’t change whatever you want it to do or act like after that point.

Why would your made up force emit energy outward, but measure each objects mass, and balance out how much strength is needed to make them all be pulled down to Earth by a force, at the very same rate of speed and acceleration?  Forces don’t know or care about what they hit or contact after they emit energy.

Forces don't emit energy, how arrogant are you to read about this?

No, it is impossible to not feel an external force acting on us.

Why?

You assert this, but you have no justification.

A force pulling on a part of us is felt. But that isn't the force directly, instead it is the tension or compression in your body as that force is transferred through your body.

e.g. if someone grabs your arms and pulls you, you feel that tension in your arm.

We can also see this in the dramatic difference between how what is effectively the same force is felt.
e.g. take someone wearing a collection of heavy gear, including a large bag.
Having it distributed all over their body doesn't feel that bad. But take it all and shove it in that bag and hang it from your pinkie, and you certainly feel it.

Likewise, we can compare what is effectively the same force acting on different parts in different way has a quite different feeling. e.g. you standing on a platform on one leg, vs you hanging from a bar with your arm.
Quite a different feeling, but the same force.

Likewise, you can compare sitting on a large seat which supports you all over your but and part of your legs, vs sitting on a nail. Quite a different experience, but the same force. And if you want to pretend that is not a force, you can replace you sitting with the same kind of setup with something you accept as a force being applied to you.

So if a force acts on your entire body at once, rather than being transferred through it, you wont feel it.
The more the force is distributed across your body, the less you feel it.
And that is because you don't feel force, you feel the compression or tension of your body.

Nothing makes sense with your made up bs force.

And yet here you are, still appealing to the same refuted BS and entirely incapable of showing any fault, and all your attempts to do so are beaten by slightly your own words.

Why do we feel a magnet or piece of metal held in our hand being pulled in by a larger magnet as we hold it closer to that magnet?

Because it applies a force to a point on your body which then creates tension in your body, with you feeling that tension.

Try understanding what the metal is feeling. It doesn't feel the magnet, it feels you pulling it.

It feels just like what you feel if you are hanging from a bar.

And likewise, if we hang from something, we can measure that force, that force of gravity pulling us down.
And if we stand on a scale, we can also see that force.

The idiotic BS which makes no sense is your idea of things just falling for no reason at all.

Because we feel forces acting on us, acting on things we hold onto, and it’s how we know there IS a force acting on us, in various ways.

And we feel gravity acting on things we hold onto.

If you dangle an arm over the edge of the roof, you don’t feel a force from below pulling down on your dangling arm in the air.

Except we do. You are just used to it.

The most idiotic claim they’ve made about their bs force, is that after it emits energy outward from the Earths ‘core’, just say it’s got a core, ok, Earths a ball, so it’s got to have a core like sn apple in the middle, right?

No, that isn't a claim they have made. It is a claim you made.
Back in reality, gravity is a force of attraction between all mass.
It isn't a magic force coming from the core. It comes from all the mass of Earth.

created

Again, you can skip the creation BS, it doesn't help.

Why would your made up force emit energy outward, but measure each objects mass, and balance out how much strength is needed to make them all be pulled down to Earth by a force

As you said for wind:
[gravity] is not variable, objects are the variable to [gravity], to that one force of one strength over a [mass].

Again, to be logical, the only way to object to gravity doing that is to object to the wind as well.

That’s so stupid to make up, its just obscene!

Yes, your BS is incredibly stupid. But that doesn't stop you.

Then a larger object with more mass should attract smaller objects of less mass!!

We can first eliminate Earths ‘gravity’ by suspending two objects of different mass within air. Their own ‘gravity’ is then the only factor.

The larger, massive 3 ton boulder and small 2 lb rock are suspended in air, held up by cranes. When near one another, the huge boulder should ‘pull in’ the small rock to it, right?

You claim both objects have ‘gravity’ in them, right?

But the huge boulder doesn’t attract in the small rock at all, proving they have no such ‘force’ within them

Then a larger object with more mass should attract smaller objects of less mass!!

Both attract each other.

We can first eliminate Earths ‘gravity’ by suspending two objects of different mass within air. Their own ‘gravity’ is then the only factor.

Do you just mean hanging them on a string, with them at the bottom of the string?
If so, that is not eliminating Earth's gravity, because as soon as that string gets pulled away from straight down, there will be a component of Earth's gravity trying to pull the object down.
That means you end with the string at an angle where the downwards force of gravitational attraction to Earth, plus the gravitational attraction to the boulder (noting these are vectors we are adding) is the negative of the tension in the string.
Or in other words, the string will go from straight down, to an angle given by:
a = atan(Fgb / Fge)
Where Fgb is the force of gravity due to the boulder, and Fge is the force of gravity due to Earth.
Removing the common term of the small rocks' mass, and the gravitational constant, this simplifies to:
a=atan[(Mb/db^2) / (Me/de^2)]

So placing your hypothetical spherical boulder at a distance of 1 m from the rock (the distance between their centres) you have, and using base units of kg and m:
a=atan[(3000/1^2) / (5.972*10^24/(6.371*10^6)^2)]
a=atan[(3 * 6.371^2 / 5.972) * 10^-9]
a=atan(2*10^-8) = 0.000001 degrees.

So quite useless as a test.

And the easy way to see it is useless is a much simpler test.
Does the object have a position it wants to return to due to the gravitational attraction to Earth?
i.e. if I pick up the stone and move it away from being straight down towards the ground, will it go back to down when I let it go? And in this case, it will.
Instead you need it to not do that.

So instead of just suspending it on a string, you want to suspend it on a balanced rod on a pivot, and allow it to spin freely, with the absolute smallest amount of friction you can manage.

e.g. the cavendish experiment.
An experiment done by countless people which all confirm gravity.

Another simple way to test it is using a different force instead.
e.g. if instead of just gravity, we also use a magnet.
So we take our nice heavy block, which we make out of a magnetic material, and then hold a pathetic fridge magnet some distance away and see if it comes to it.
If it doesn't, your test wont work for gravity.

the huge boulder should ‘pull in’ the small rock to it, right?

Not by any significant amount, as explained above.

It would not matter if both objects are pulled by your made up force within a ball Earth, being suspended in air removes your loony force from acting on them.

The greatest force is now in the two ton boulder, and would pull the small rock towards it in air.

If Earth was a giant magnet, the bigger magnet suspended in air would pull in the small object.

Because it’s a real force, not a made up bs one that can do anything and everything you make up for it to do

It would not matter if both objects are pulled by your made up force within a ball Earth, being suspended in air removes your loony force from acting on them.

Asserting the same pathetic BS, while ignoring the refutation of it, just shows how pathetic you are.

Why don't you try drawing out what you are suggesting and show how you have made it so gravity doesn't matter?
Why don't you do the same experiment with a 3 ton block of steel, and a fridge magnet held 1 m away, and see if you can attract it with the fridge magnet; and when you can't you can claim that magnetism doesn't exist either.

If Earth was a giant magnet, the bigger magnet suspended in air would pull in the small object.

Do you mean the giant weak magnet it is, or if you tried to set it up so the forces to each object were comparable?

If the latter, which is the only one which really matters, pure BS.
We can trivially demonstrate this with a paperclip, a piece of string and 2 magnets.
Suspend the paperclip on a piece of string, fix the strong magnet underneath so it pulls the paperclip down, and then get a weak fridge magnet off to the side and observe how the paperclip isn't attracted significantly to the fridge magnet.

Because it’s a real force, not a made up bs one that can do anything and everything you make up for it to do

The only one treating it as a made up BS force that can do anything is you.
I'm treating it as a real force, and expecting it to act like a real force does.

Then a larger object with more mass should attract smaller objects of less mass!!

We can first eliminate Earths ‘gravity’ by suspending two objects of different mass within air. Their own ‘gravity’ is then the only factor.

You aren't really "eliminating" the earth's gravity because the masses are still being pulled toward the earth.  You are just removing friction from the equation.  However, the tension from the cables suspending the objects will be a factor.

The larger, massive 3 ton boulder and small 2 lb rock are suspended in air, held up by cranes. When near one another, the huge boulder should ‘pull in’ the small rock to it, right?

You realize that you're basically describing the Cavendish experiment, don't you?

You claim both objects have ‘gravity’ in them, right?

But the huge boulder doesn’t attract in the small rock at all, proving they have no such ‘force’ within them

You have personally tested this, right?

Why not use objects that aren’t metals?

Eliminate the possibility of them being attracted by magnetic force, which is why they used metals in their tests.

Use pure woods, plastics without magnetic properties, etc.

See if those objects attract to one another or not. They won’t, of course, their tests use metals because they attract by magnetic force, and they know it. They’re a bunch of fakes, supporting liars and fakes.  This just proves it more than before. Clowns and weasels they really are

Metals tend to be much more dense than wood or other non-metallic materials.  Also, not all metals are attracted to or affected by magnetic fields.  Lead is a good example of such a metal.  However, if you want to do your own Cavendish rig using wood or concrete, then feel free to do so and let us know your results.

Why not use objects that aren’t metals?

Because the densest substances are usually metal, making it the easiest to do.
And not all metals are magnetic. And not all non-metals are magnetic.

But here is the question for you:
Why don't you go do this yourself, with whatever materials you want.

The point is, the experiments exist which actually properly isolate the effects of Earth's gravity so the gravitational attraction between smaller can be verified to exist.
Yet here you are making excuses instead of accepting reality.

But I take it based upon what you have decided to deflect to you fully realise and accept that your prior example was pure BS and you were knowingly lying to everyone?

Metals cannot be used for this experiment, any metals at all have magnetic properties, just less than others. Even lead has magnetic propertied, it’s just not obvious or easy to detect it in lead. But it does have those properties, and cannot be used for this experiment. They used lead because they know it has metallic properties but people don’t know that, they are con artists, no surprise here!

This experiment is theirs, not mine. They cannot use metals, like they did, they must use non metals, and we’ll see how well that works for them!

The density excuse doesn’t fly. It isn’t about using the densest materials, it is about using objects of different mass which ate not metals.

Use a heavy chunk of wood or block of plastic, or whatever you like, it just has to not be or contain any metald.

Eliminate any chance of it being magnetic force, and we’ll see what your made up force can do, or not do, and prove its just bs!

Eliminate any chance of it being magnetic force, and we’ll see what your made up force can do, or not do, and prove its just bs!

No.  Just show the amount of what you think is magnetic attraction is directly proportional to how “magnetic” the material being used is.

I bet you find no correlation between how magnetic the material being used and the rate of movement.

Here is a quick and dirty search on magnetism of lead.

Turbs, do you understand the implications.  Lead doesn’t help your argument at all. Prove it wrong instead of your idiotic babbling and spamming of threads.

The birds mass makes it come down through air, no made up force needed.

Then why doesn’t this plunger fall to earth?

Then why isn’t this plunger falling?

From this video..




A hand plunger being supported by a column of air.



The plunger is more dense than the air it’s being supported on. 

Now.  What force is causing the air molecules to bunch up to support a hot air balloon like the air in the trapped cylinder supporting the plunger. 



 A ballon filled with helium Thst has mass ever once in awhile ends up at the house.  For a day or two, it’s bouncing off the ceiling.  Then after a while it loses enough helium the ballon floats a few feet under the ceiling, but doesn’t fall to the floor.  What force causes the air molecules to bunch up and support the ballon like the air molecules supporting the weight of the plunger in the example.  If you don’t think weight is a real downward force, why does just adding weight to the plunger make it go down more into the cylinder.  Then removing the weight causes the plunger to rise.

How do you accelerate a mass down against air resistance without a force?  In this case gravity. 

This experiment is theirs, not mine. They cannot use metals, like they did, they must use non metals, and we’ll see how well that works for them!

Then why don't you try the experiment the proper way with non metals and let us know your results?

Metals cannot be used for this experiment, any metals at all have magnetic properties, just less than others.

All materials have magnetic properties, by virtue of having electrons, protons and neutrons.
So by that logic, nothing can be used.
And this includes both paramagnetic materials, such as liquid oxygen which is attracted to a magnet, and diamagnetic materials, like bismuth a metal which is repelled by magnets.

It is as if you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and instead are just looking for pathetic excuses to reject reality.

Dense metals are used, because they are dense, which makes it much easier to see the effect.

But notice how you just look for excuses rather than even attempt the experiment yourself with things which would qualify.

The simple fact is there are experiments you can do to test for gravity. You just choose not to. You are choosing to remain wilfully ignorant of reality.
And that is entirely on YOU!.

The density excuse doesn’t fly. It isn’t about using the densest materials, it is about using objects of different mass which ate not metals.

And another pathetic lie from you.

Again, what is the formula for the force?
F=GMm/d^2.

i.e. you want a large mass at a short distnace.
That means you want something dense. So you can have that large mass a short distance away.

Use a heavy chunk of wood or block of plastic, or whatever you like, it just has to not be or contain any metald.

You are aware basically all life, including wood, has metal inside it?

Again, you are basically just saying no matter what experiment is done you will dismiss it.

How about you try showing how magnetism is affecting it, instead of just rejecting it?

It seems you are just upset that there is a simple experiment which can be done to show gravity exists, so you are making up pathetic excuses to reject it.

Meanwhile, all your delusional BS still fails to explain what is observed in reality.

Quote from: turbonium2 on April 27, 2025, 01:44:14 AM

Metals cannot be used for this experiment, any metals at all have magnetic properties, just less than others.

All materials have magnetic properties, by virtue of having electrons, protons and neutrons.

I mean, that's pretty silly even by your standards.

I mean, that's pretty silly even by your standards.

Why?
Electrons, protons and neutrons all have spin.
This means they interact with magnets.
Any material which has these will interact with magnets to some extent.
This can be diamagnetic, paramagnet, ferromagnetic, antiferromagnetic and so on.
And this distinction is not a simple case of metal vs non-metal.

Quote from: Username on April 29, 2025, 07:41:39 PM

I mean, that's pretty silly even by your standards.

Why?
Electrons, protons and neutrons all have spin.
This means they interact with magnets.
Any material which has these will interact with magnets to some extent.
This can be diamagnetic, paramagnet, ferromagnetic, antiferromagnetic and so on.
And this distinction is not a simple case of metal vs non-metal.

Its just very similar to the post from the same time around building a computer from scratch. Is he really meaning to that? If so, my bad.

Metals cannot be used for this experiment, being denser than other materials which aren’t metals is just a bs excuse to get away with a bs test!

Non metals don’t work, don’t attract to one another, we’ve proven the made up force is complete bs.

Suspend in air a two ton object of wood or plastic, or any object without any metal, the greater mass of it would easily pull in their little balls of lead or metal, being they have more density than the huge block of wood or plastic won’t matter, no contest which one wins that battle.

It’s all bs

Metals cannot be used for this experiment,

I would say lead is the perfect metal to address you BS claims and concerns…

Eliminate any chance of it being magnetic force, and we’ll see what your made up force can do, or not do, and prove its just bs!

No.  Just show the amount of what you think is magnetic attraction is directly proportional to how “magnetic” the material being used is.

I bet you find no correlation between how magnetic the material being used and the rate of movement.

Here is a quick and dirty search on magnetism of lead.

Turbs, do you understand the implications.  Lead doesn’t help your argument at all. Prove its wrong instead of your idiotic babbling and spamming of threads.

Its just very similar to the post from the same time around building a computer from scratch. Is he really meaning to that? If so, my bad.

He is saying we can't use metals because they have magnetic properties which could skew the results.
Rejecting even insignificant diamagnetism in metals like lead as skewing the results.

Metals cannot be used for this experiment, being denser than other materials which aren’t metals is just a bs excuse to get away with a bs test!

If you had a shred of integrity and intelligence, you would understand that "metal" is not the problem.
Instead you would appeal to the specific property which is the issue, and see what substances have this property.

Non metals don’t work, don’t attract to one another, we’ve proven the made up force is complete bs.

No, you haven't.
You have baselessly asserted crap with no observation or experiment; while dismissing experiments with pathetic excuses.

Suspend in air a two ton object of wood or plastic, or any object without any metal, the greater mass of it would easily pull in their little balls of lead or metal

Not compared to the ~6 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 ton ball called Earth quite close to it.
Again, you are appealing to BS.
Try actually doing the math to see what force is expected from each.

It’s all bs

Thanks for summing up your post. Your post is all BS.