Trained Dogs

So I had two really strange dreams last night. I must have had food poisoning. The first involved a rotting tree having a strange fungus monster chasing ppl around, that Jura says he'd smoke.

The second... we were in a restaurant that was built like a ninja house. They had two upstairs gift shops, but the direct entrances had some complications (one path had a very narrow walkway for the direct route, and another had an entrance that you had to exit the building and walk like five blocks away to find a building that connected to another building that connected to the right entrance). Anyway, I decided to eat dinner for now, and they had trained a dog to bring us a little wooden container of ginger.
Then I spent the early morning thinking about how you'd get a dog to do that, and it would have to be training them that if they gave away ginger there would have to be meat or treats at the end of the equation. But it would fall apart under three circumstances (the main ones: if the dog figures out how to get meat for nothing, by dumping off a container of ginger or if they do their job but the owner is too damned busy to reward them). Then I started thinking about whether you could teach dogs about delayed gratification with a system of tokens, gave myself a small headache planning a whole business model out, and then decided it could work for crows or squid, but dogs haven't the mental patience for that sorta shit.

Then I realized the reason why telling you stuff over and over doesn't work. You're trained dogs. As long as you get the meat (or even the promise of meat later), you are more than willing to lie for your masters. Because you have been promised there will be a lot of meat. Because you never think your masters might set you up to be turned into food instead. But these masters? That's exactly what they do. Socialism always kills the first wave of useful idiots. "You helped us with our revolution," they say, "what's to stop you from making revolution against us?"

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And I'm the third type of dog. The dog who really doesn't want the meat anymore. Perhaps there are too many strings attached, perhaps they want rice instead of lamb, in any case, yeah no. In my case, I suppose I just found that time and again, what I really wanted wasn't on offer. "At the prom, this and that girl want to meet you," but I wanted the photo girl. In any case, no, when I learned the Earth might not be round, nobody tried to bribe me, and no amount of ostracism really worked. Because people who knew me knew that wasn't the way.

Bad dog. Bad! Bad!!!

I guess the question is, if the people paying you to be online trolls (which you probably signed an NDA about, and will deny exist) didn't give you a decent reward, would you still in good conscience betray the people of your country with lies about globalism for the Deep State?

So? Won't you reconsider?

Then I realized the reason why telling you stuff over and over doesn't work. You're trained dogs.

You mean like the time you told us the sun looked kinda funny in the sky?

Where is that supposed to lead?

You should smoke the mushroom DD, it is known for its ability to expand your thinking, you would understand more, be less paranoid, probably be more likable.

Then I realized the reason why telling you stuff over and over doesn't work. You're trained dogs. As long as you get the meat (or even the promise of meat later), you are more than willing to lie for your masters. Because you have been promised there will be a lot of meat. Because you never think your masters might set you up to be turned into food instead. But these masters? That's exactly what they do.

Quite the opposite.
You are the trained dog, listening to your FE and cult masters.

The reason why telling us stuff over and over doesn't work is because we have a brain and aren't just going to accept your delusional BS.
Your delusional BS which you cannot justify nor defend.
Your delusional BS which is repeatedly refuted.

That doesn't work for any intelligent people.
It only works for brainwashed fools like you.

If you want it to work, you need to start defending your BS. That means responding to simple questions which destroy your BS in a way which actually addresses the issues raised; and it means not just continually repeating the same refuted BS.

Socialism always kills the first wave of useful idiots.

As opposed to capitalism, which effectively keeps them as slaves, barely able to get by and entirely dependant upon their slave masters for their wage to be able to live.

when I learned the Earth might not be round

You mean when you were conned into believing that delusional BS?

I guess the question is, if the people paying you to be online trolls

You mean the people that only exist in your imagination, because you need to invent more delusional BS to try propping up your prior delusional BS?

No one is paying me. And calling you out on your delusional BS is not trolling.

The one betraying everyone here is you, by continually trying to pedal a lie and make the world a worse place.

So? Won't you reconsider?

If you want me to reconsider, then do what I have already been telling you to.
Stop ignoring the refutations of your delusional BS.
Go back to the threads you have fled from like the lying coward you are and either admit where you have been wrong, or defend your BS claims.
If you can't do that and instead continue to act like a lying coward that needs to continually ignore or deflect from problems with your delusional BS, and continually try to change the subject to avoid the fact that you are wrong; then why would any sane person reconsider?

I am the FE cult master!

I am the FE cult master!

That is heartening to know.

Perhaps then you can address something, namely why FE'ers are apparently so uninterested in taking practical steps toward establishing the facts regarding the shape of the Earth. There is a multitude of experiments that can be performed, including the so-called Final Experiment.

I know myself well enough that if I was an adherent of any non-mainstream theory, I would be eager as hell to take any available practical steps to establish the truth on that point.

So what's going on?

Interesting that in the 19th century, people would gather in public forums to discuss the reality of Earth shape.
 
It is documented that FEers would mop up the floor with the round Earth believers by presenting real evidence the REers were incapable of disputing.
 
In the decades since that time, FE’ers have been willing, able, and successful in continuing their winning ways by presenting provable evidence.
 
It makes you wonder what REers are reading to arrive at such abstract visions of Earth shape?

Interesting that in the 19th century, people would gather in public forums to discuss the reality of Earth shape.
 
It is documented that FEers would mop up the floor with the round Earth believers by presenting real evidence the REers were incapable of disputing.
 
In the decades since that time, FE’ers have been willing, able, and successful in continuing their winning ways by presenting provable evidence.
 
It makes you wonder what REers are reading to arrive at such abstract visions of Earth shape?

Then why won't FEers go on the record about the "Final Experiment"?

Interesting that in the 19th century, people would gather in public forums to discuss the reality of Earth shape.
 
It is documented that FEers would mop up the floor with the round Earth believers by presenting real evidence the REers were incapable of disputing.
 
In the decades since that time, FE’ers have been willing, able, and successful in continuing their winning ways by presenting provable evidence.
 
It makes you wonder what REers are reading to arrive at such abstract visions of Earth shape?

Lol! Would you care to provide your documents for flat earthers mopping up the floor against round earthers, in the 19th century, in public debates? I don't think you can, and are bluffing as per the flat earther handbook. I hope you aren't quoting that moron, Rowbotham, where he was publicly humiliated?

Besides, flat earthers would only be mopping up the floor with their immediate flat earth observations. The moment a scientist steps in and brings in science to explain the shape of the whole Earth, and not just a 10km patch, all those flat earthers are fucked. 

Globe earthers can definitively say what three dimensional shape, Earth actually is - a globe. Flat is not a three dimensional shape. The flat that flat earthers argue is our Earth, could only be one side of a three dimensional shape. Flat earthers can't agree on that three dimensional shape for the entire Earth, and then for some strange reason, wonder why they are regarded as complete and utter imbeciles.

I am the FE cult master!

You're a Jack of all trades and master of none.

So I had two really strange dreams last night. I must have had food poisoning. The first involved a rotting tree having a strange fungus monster chasing ppl around, that Jura says he'd smoke.

The second... we were in a restaurant that was built like a ninja house. They had two upstairs gift shops, but the direct entrances had some complications (one path had a very narrow walkway for the direct route, and another had an entrance that you had to exit the building and walk like five blocks away to find a building that connected to another building that connected to the right entrance). Anyway, I decided to eat dinner for now, and they had trained a dog to bring us a little wooden container of ginger.
Then I spent the early morning thinking about how you'd get a dog to do that, and it would have to be training them that if they gave away ginger there would have to be meat or treats at the end of the equation. But it would fall apart under three circumstances (the main ones: if the dog figures out how to get meat for nothing, by dumping off a container of ginger or if they do their job but the owner is too damned busy to reward them). Then I started thinking about whether you could teach dogs about delayed gratification with a system of tokens, gave myself a small headache planning a whole business model out, and then decided it could work for crows or squid, but dogs haven't the mental patience for that sorta shit.

Then I realized the reason why telling you stuff over and over doesn't work. You're trained dogs. As long as you get the meat (or even the promise of meat later), you are more than willing to lie for your masters. Because you have been promised there will be a lot of meat. Because you never think your masters might set you up to be turned into food instead. But these masters? That's exactly what they do. Socialism always kills the first wave of useful idiots. "You helped us with our revolution," they say, "what's to stop you from making revolution against us?"

https://www.chick.com/products/tract?stk=0065

And I'm the third type of dog. The dog who really doesn't want the meat anymore. Perhaps there are too many strings attached, perhaps they want rice instead of lamb, in any case, yeah no. In my case, I suppose I just found that time and again, what I really wanted wasn't on offer. "At the prom, this and that girl want to meet you," but I wanted the photo girl. In any case, no, when I learned the Earth might not be round, nobody tried to bribe me, and no amount of ostracism really worked. Because people who knew me knew that wasn't the way.

Bad dog. Bad! Bad!!!

I guess the question is, if the people paying you to be online trolls (which you probably signed an NDA about, and will deny exist) didn't give you a decent reward, would you still in good conscience betray the people of your country with lies about globalism for the Deep State?

So? Won't you reconsider?

Here's the real kicker.

Nobody needs to pay me or anybody else to expose your fuckwittery, because you and the other flat earthers do such an incredible job all on your own.

You can't even back each other, which is the height of sadness. You have a common argument and none of you can be bothered doing something nice and backing another flat earther.

All I see is a collection of selfish, narcissistic, self-absorbed dreamers only in it for themselves. Now, that is a dog act, if you want to bring in dog behaviour, and you Bulmabriefs, are leading the pack.

I am the FE cult master!

Yeah!!!

But you need a kickass rock song.

Nobody needs to pay me or anybody else to expose your fuckwittery, because you and the other flat earthers do such an incredible job all on your own.

Strictly speaking, I suppose that's true.

You probably do in fact do this for free, unlike the others.

But that makes you worse.  After all, a prostitute to the Deep State who doesn't even get paid is the worst sort of slave.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 04, 2024, 06:22:52 AM

Then I realized the reason why telling you stuff over and over doesn't work. You're trained dogs. As long as you get the meat (or even the promise of meat later), you are more than willing to lie for your masters. Because you have been promised there will be a lot of meat. Because you never think your masters might set you up to be turned into food instead. But these masters? That's exactly what they do.

Quite the opposite.
You are the trained dog, listening to your FE and cult masters.

The reason why telling us stuff over and over doesn't work is because we have a brain and aren't just going to accept your delusional BS.
Your delusional BS which you cannot justify nor defend.
Your delusional BS which is repeatedly refuted.

That doesn't work for any intelligent people.
It only works for brainwashed fools like you.

If you want it to work, you need to start defending your BS. That means responding to simple questions which destroy your BS in a way which actually addresses the issues raised; and it means not just continually repeating the same refuted BS.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 04, 2024, 06:22:52 AM

Socialism always kills the first wave of useful idiots.

As opposed to capitalism, which effectively keeps them as slaves, barely able to get by and entirely dependant upon their slave masters for their wage to be able to live.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 04, 2024, 06:22:52 AM

when I learned the Earth might not be round

You mean when you were conned into believing that delusional BS?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 04, 2024, 06:22:52 AM

I guess the question is, if the people paying you to be online trolls

You mean the people that only exist in your imagination, because you need to invent more delusional BS to try propping up your prior delusional BS?

No one is paying me. And calling you out on your delusional BS is not trolling.

The one betraying everyone here is you, by continually trying to pedal a lie and make the world a worse place.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 04, 2024, 06:22:52 AM

So? Won't you reconsider?

If you want me to reconsider, then do what I have already been telling you to.
Stop ignoring the refutations of your delusional BS.
Go back to the threads you have fled from like the lying coward you are and either admit where you have been wrong, or defend your BS claims.
If you can't do that and instead continue to act like a lying coward that needs to continually ignore or deflect from problems with your delusional BS, and continually try to change the subject to avoid the fact that you are wrong; then why would any sane person reconsider?

I know you're hoping that telling me over and over will get me to believe it, when you repeat the phrase "delusional BS" but there's a distinct difference between what I do. I try other approaches to get you to understand.

You, and especially Data, dig up the same information or pictures over and over again. 

The pincushion distortion thing, the tidal bore, the Ponchartrain Bridge thing, sailboats, etc. I could probably name them all, given enough time. Are you aware many of my pictures are homemade? Yeah, I take time out of my day, in hopes that maybe, one day, things will click.

There is a distinct difference between repeating things to trained dogs and repeating thing either because you're trying to convince yourselves (or worse, you think you can convince me).

As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”  “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him.  As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work.  While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
After saying this, he spit on the ground, made some mud with the saliva, and put it on the man’s eyes.  “Go,” he told him, “wash in the Pool of Siloam” (this word means “Sent”). So the man went and washed, and came home seeing.
 His neighbors and those who had formerly seen him begging asked, “Isn’t this the same man who used to sit and beg?”  Some claimed that he was. Others said, “No, he only looks like him.”  But he himself insisted, “I am the man.”
 “How then were your eyes opened?” they asked.
 He replied, “The man they call Jesus made some mud and put it on my eyes. He told me to go to Siloam and wash. So I went and washed, and then I could see.”
“Where is this man?” they asked him. “I don’t know,” he said.
 They brought to the Pharisees the man who had been blind.  Now the day on which Jesus had made the mud and opened the man’s eyes was a Sabbath. Therefore the Pharisees also asked him how he had received his sight. “He put mud on my eyes,” the man replied, “and I washed, and now I see.”
 Some of the Pharisees said, “This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.”
But others asked, “How can a sinner perform such signs?” So they were divided.
 Then they turned again to the blind man, “What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened.”
The man replied, “He is a prophet.”
 They still did not believe that he had been blind and had received his sight until they sent for the man’s parents.  “Is this your son?” they asked. “Is this the one you say was born blind? How is it that now he can see?”
“We know he is our son,” the parents answered, “and we know he was born blind.  But how he can see now, or who opened his eyes, we don’t know. Ask him. He is of age; he will speak for himself.”  His parents said this because they were afraid of the Jewish leaders, who already had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Messiah would be put out of the synagogue.  That was why his parents said, “He is of age; ask him.”
 A second time they summoned the man who had been blind. “Give glory to God by telling the truth,” they said. “We know this man is a sinner.”
 He replied, “Whether he is a sinner or not, I don’t know. One thing I do know. I was blind but now I see!”
 Then they asked him, “What did he do to you? How did he open your eyes?”
 He answered, “I have told you already and you did not listen. Why do you want to hear it again? Do you want to become his disciples too?”
Then they hurled insults at him and said, “You are this fellow’s disciple! We are disciples of Moses!  We know that God spoke to Moses, but as for this fellow, we don’t even know where he comes from.”
 The man answered, “Now that is remarkable! You don’t know where he comes from, yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing.”

If I were blind (misinformed), sooner or later, the lie would come to light. But because I see of my own accord, nothing you can do short of trying to brainwash me will dissuade me.  And as for that, I resisted a cult, and a goofy old man trying to make me woke. To say nothing of whatever nonsense I learned from primary school to college. If it didn't work, sooner or later, I rejected it.

It is documented that FEers would mop up the floor with the round Earth believers by presenting real evidence the REers were incapable of disputing.

In where? Your fantasy novels?

The FE has been repeatedly refuted by the RE model and REers, with FEers not able to produce any evidence to support their fantasy over a RE.

In the decades since that time, FE’ers have been willing, able, and successful in continuing their winning ways by presenting provable evidence.

Just what fantasy world are you living in?

Time and time again, FEers have been unwilling, unable, and unsuccessfully in presenting any solid evidence that Earth is flat, while continuing to flee from evidence that demonstrates Earth is round.

It makes you wonder what REers are reading to arrive at such abstract visions of Earth shape?

Maybe that's your problem?
You are too busy reading FE fantasy novels to bother looking at reality, a reality which is incompatible with a FE, and fully supports a RE.
I arrive at the shape of Earth, based upon observations from reality, not by reading crap.

I know you're hoping that telling me over and over will get me to believe it

No, I know you are far too far gone to be able to be convinced by anything.
Even if you went up into space and saw the globe below you with your own eyes, you would still reject it.
Because that is the kind of trained dog you are.
You have learnt to reject all forms of rational thought, and just continue to parrot what your trainers have told you.

I try other approaches to get you to understand.

No, you don't.
You just keep repeating the same crap, with no attempt at all to actually make anyone understand nor any attempt for you to understand.
That would require you to engage with what people have said.
For example, if people ask questions which show a flaw, you need to address the question rather than just ignore it outright because it destroys your delusional fantasy.

I provide a variety of different ways of explaining things, and you just ignore them, because you have no response.

If I were blind (misinformed), sooner or later, the lie would come to light.

No, you wouldn't, because you enjoy being blind.
It is your little safety blanket.
If you had any intention of seeing you would stop ignoring things which destroy your fantasy.

And as for that, I resisted a cult

Says the one who literally just quoted from the "holy book" of a cult.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 04, 2024, 01:45:32 PM

I am the FE cult master!

That is heartening to know.

Perhaps then you can address something, namely why FE'ers are apparently so uninterested in taking practical steps toward establishing the facts regarding the shape of the Earth. There is a multitude of experiments that can be performed, including the so-called Final Experiment.

I know myself well enough that if I was an adherent of any non-mainstream theory, I would be eager as hell to take any available practical steps to establish the truth on that point.

So what's going on?

Perhaps they are too busy conducting experiments to have the time to answer your posts.

Perhaps they are too busy conducting experiments to have the time to answer your posts.

Oh really? Which experiments are these? They must be pretty complicated because the organizers of the "Final Experiment" are able to keep posting videos on youtube.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 04, 2024, 07:42:17 PM

And as for that, I resisted a cult

Says the one who literally just quoted from the "holy book" of a cult.

Sit! Stay... Roll over!

I don't recognize books as holy.

God's word is Jesus. Not anything written on the pages of a book.

I don't recognize books as holy.

God's word is Jesus. Not anything written on the pages of a book.

Semantics, you are still following a cult, being a good trained dog, showing no signs of intelligence.

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 05, 2024, 07:41:02 AM

Perhaps they are too busy conducting experiments to have the time to answer your posts.

Oh really? Which experiments are these? They must be pretty complicated because the organizers of the "Final Experiment" are able to keep posting videos on youtube.

Are you entertained? Isn't that what the "Final Experiment" is for?

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 05, 2024, 07:57:42 AM

I don't recognize books as holy.

God's word is Jesus. Not anything written on the pages of a book.

Semantics, you are still following a cult, being a good trained dog, showing no signs of intelligence.

Says you. I'm actually rewriting the Bible. If I agreed with everything like a good cult member, you should be able to explain that.

Quote from: Torve on November 05, 2024, 07:54:42 AM

Quote from: Space Cowgirl on November 05, 2024, 07:41:02 AM

Perhaps they are too busy conducting experiments to have the time to answer your posts.

Oh really? Which experiments are these? They must be pretty complicated because the organizers of the "Final Experiment" are able to keep posting videos on youtube.

Are you entertained? Isn't that what the "Final Experiment" is for?

It continues to baffle how unserious FEers commonly are about something they have chosen to make a major part of their lives. I mean, the amount of ridicule and disdain it attracts from most people when someone professes to believe in FE, it's not something done lightly. But as I said, then they can be largely or universally unserious about the same thing they have willingly used to turn their lives upside down.

Myself, I am a Glober or REer, and I happen to think that the truth matters. It matters what someone chooses to believe and profess to others. But to so many FEers it seems to be a big joke. And if anything it seems it should be the other way around.

To the point, the "Final Experiment" is a scientific observation with obvious implications for the viability of FE. It is not entertainment. Please try to understand the difference.

It continues to baffle how unserious FEers commonly are about something they have chosen to make a major part of their lives. I mean, the amount of ridicule and disdain it attracts from most people when someone professes to believe in FE, it's not something done lightly.

Actually, that's what you call commitment.

I would wager that you couldn't tolerate even ONE DAY of being mocked by the entire word for what you think.

And flat Earthers do it day after day, putting up with rejection, isolation, and bullying.
The only thing that I can compare it to is being the lone atheist in a country filled with believers, or vice versa.

I am far more committed than you, who can literally go to another forum tomorrow, and find your beliefs at home by the mainstream. My own family thinks my ideas are weird. Nevertheless, I persist.

So no, if we don't seem serious about it, that's all you. As for me, I've learned to take things in stride.

Myself, I am a Glober or REer, and I happen to think that the truth matters.

I didn't know you had a sense of humor there. That's hilarious.

Wait, you're serious. 

"The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai."

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It continues to baffle how unserious FEers commonly are about something they have chosen to make a major part of their lives. I mean, the amount of ridicule and disdain it attracts from most people when someone professes to believe in FE, it's not something done lightly.

Actually, that's what you call commitment.

I would wager that you couldn't tolerate even ONE DAY of being mocked by the entire word for what you think.

And flat Earthers do it day after day, putting up with rejection, isolation, and bullying.
The only thing that I can compare it to is being the lone atheist in a country filled with believers, or vice versa.

I am far more committed than you, who can literally go to another forum tomorrow, and find your beliefs at home by the mainstream. My own family thinks my ideas are weird. Nevertheless, I persist.

So no, if we don't seem serious about it, that's all you. As for me, I've learned to take things in stride.

So why won't you go on the record on the "Final Experiment"?

Says you. I'm actually rewriting the Bible. If I agreed with everything like a good cult member, you should be able to explain that.

Cult members don't always agree with everything.
Some go off and try to start their own splinter cults.
Look at what has already happened to the cult of Christianity.

Actually, that's what you call commitment.

No, that's what we call a lack of commitment.

I would wager that you couldn't tolerate even ONE DAY of being mocked by the entire word for what you think.

I wouldn't give a shit.

And flat Earthers do it day after day, putting up with rejection, isolation, and bullying.

And they deserve it.

I am far more committed than you

I'm committed to the truth, far more so than you.

So no, if we don't seem serious about it

That's all you, from you continually fleeing from refutations of your delusional BS, and refusing to defend it.

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Myself, I am a Glober or REer, and I happen to think that the truth matters.

I didn't know you had a sense of humor there. That's hilarious.
Wait, you're serious.

And with that (thinking someone thinking the truth matters is a joke), you have once again shown how little you care about the truth.

Quote from: bulmabriefs144 on November 05, 2024, 06:25:56 PM

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It continues to baffle how unserious FEers commonly are about something they have chosen to make a major part of their lives. I mean, the amount of ridicule and disdain it attracts from most people when someone professes to believe in FE, it's not something done lightly.

Actually, that's what you call commitment.

I would wager that you couldn't tolerate even ONE DAY of being mocked by the entire word for what you think.

And flat Earthers do it day after day, putting up with rejection, isolation, and bullying.
The only thing that I can compare it to is being the lone atheist in a country filled with believers, or vice versa.

I am far more committed than you, who can literally go to another forum tomorrow, and find your beliefs at home by the mainstream. My own family thinks my ideas are weird. Nevertheless, I persist.

So no, if we don't seem serious about it, that's all you. As for me, I've learned to take things in stride.

So why won't you go on the record on the "Final Experiment"?

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I know what that is.

Quote from: Torve on November 05, 2024, 07:29:51 PM

So why won't you go on the record on the "Final Experiment"?

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I know what that is.

From this thread. 

Final Experiment, Does FE Allow for a 24 Hour Antarctic Summer Sun

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=92622.0

Your post..

See what I said in another thread.

Occam's Razor says that the simplest explanation is the  best, and by far the simplest explanation is that this is an outright lie. How often do airlines go directly to Antarctica?
So how exactly are we verifying this?

Chances are, we're not. We're just comparing it to the North Pole in the summer, which can be explained by being a central point around the sun's radius and the sun moving around the upper hemisphere in FE. In RE, they operate under a tilt theory which ummm had some issues with it pointed out.

Under this tilt theory, we just kinda phone it in, when we see observable behavior in the North Pole. "Well, the same must be true about the South Pole." Ah I see, so summer in NYC in June/Jule/August, and that must be true about Cape Town,  South Africa. Good to know that without exploring, you have decided this. Or living in the Sahara, you decide the rest of the world is desert.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I know what that is.

Now that you know what that is, why won't you go on the record?

Tell you what.

We'll go together, holding hands and skipping.

That way, when they shoot us in the forehead for crossing into the forbidden lands, we'll be able to say that at least our ideological enemies got murdered.

Tell you what.

We'll go together, holding hands and skipping.

That way, when they shoot us in the forehead for crossing into the forbidden lands, we'll be able to say that at least our ideological enemies got murdered.

I already did.

It's your turn. Answer three questions. Nobody is shooting at you.