Pinning Down Transgender Rights

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Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« on: November 02, 2024, 04:58:48 AM »
Yeah, we're reviving this topic.

Why?

Because one of Trump's ads goes like this.



So, Mr Trump, as a ex-transgender -> genderfluid person, I have opinions. Here they are.

First, I don't support they/them. I support you.
I also strongly support roll purges. If it were up to Kamala, everyone who moves from Richmond, VA to Tucson, AZ would have sorta shadow left behind that votes (Democrat, of course). And they/them is accurate, because name or sex changes leave behind spare names that can vote on mail-in ballots. We need to close such cheating.

Second, I don't support sex changes. I do support right to personal expression. Sex change (oh sorry, "gender affirming surgery") is not an actual surgery, by that I mean it does not do what it proposes to do. A real change gives a male a viable vagina and a womb that can bear children. A "sex change" does not. So thousands of impressionable boys who want to be like their mothers are cheated out of their reproductive rights. Nuh. If you want to be a physically a woman, without the pregnancy part that's a physical feminization surgery. Not a sex change.
But (1) it needs to be 18+ with no nonsense aboutmale development being some kinda emergency, as this is 100% an informed decision. (2) Absolutely no childhood "correction" of gender for intersex people. I have heard a common complaint among people who are intersex, one who said they had a vagina that actually got wet, and the doctor effectively sterilized them, by closing it up and turning their oversized clitoris into a makeshift penis. (3) No taxpayer funding of this nonsense. Train people at birth control clinics to do it. People should be able to make the connection that they are sterilizing themselves. It should be an informed choice, and out of your own pocket.

Now, let's talk about gendered spaces. Sexual harassment is still a thing that is not tolerated. Sexual crimes (rape, child molestation, voyeurism, etc) is still a thing that is not tolerated. As for the bathroom and changing room issue, all changing rooms have stalls to change in (public changing is allowed, but with informed consent of all students), bathrooms have stalls to pee in, and showering is not a communal activity unless you are washing each other (in which case, you're probably touching each other's sexual organs anyway, and ummmm yeah that's fine if everyone has consent).
As far as sports go, in some ways I'm even less restrictive, in some ways, I'm more. If a boy wants to be on girl's lacrosse or field hockey, let him. They will have to agree to full immersion as a female player (no visible facial hair, shaved legs and armpits, makeup, and dress code), and this is only allowed for team sports. Competitive sports, they are listed as a male. For work, church, etc, yes you can present as female in regard to clothing, but we don't take leave of common sense. Common sense says that we do protect people from being beat up (by not sending people who pass as women into men's rooms) and do protect people from being molested. Why is why, I think we need to phase out gendered restrooms. This goes to the previous bit about being molested. While TERFs think that wholly female spaces are a possibility, the reality is that if the aim is to pee, either allowing crossdressers and trans ppl into women's rooms (been shown to have pervert problems) or making all restrooms multi-gender is the only approach that works. Chivalry as a concept works. Remember chivalry? What happens to "transgender" creeps who try to harass women by sneaking into the room.... if it no longer is a women's room but has four guys at urinals outside the women's stalls watching that creep? I'll tell you. These posers get beat up.

I do not approve of the gender separation, I do however approve of cultural gendered spaces. That is to say, Islam has a very toxic male/female dynamic (currently the Taliban wants to ban women even speaking) because men don't get exposed to women at all, and they grow up unchallenged with macho culture, and never remotely deal with women. A woman can go to an all-male space (and there should be spaces where men learn how to be men), but she has to conduct herself like the men. You know, cheering about the hockey game, hair tied back, no manicures, loud burping, etc. Ditto for female spaces. You wanna go, immerse yourself with the other women.

Lastly, we need an end to poor actors. Trying to fine people for misgendering? Hell, no. I was in a restaurant during a Pride meetup, and these two old queens gave a waitress grief because a trans male was mixed in with a trans female group. She didn't know. She made the wrong assumption. She was probably fired after her shift.

Our society needs to grow with the assumption that there are male or female dominant spaces, and you don't need to mangle your body to be part of them, but no talking about fashion during a hockey night.
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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2024, 06:09:42 AM »
I'm always baffled by members of the lgbt community supporting the GOP.  Especially the T part of lgbt these days.  I assume they don't listen to a lot of what the hard right is saying.  Basically they see transgendered people as child rapists and you know what we do with child rapists.

I don't think Trump personally feels this way.  I think he just goes along with it the same way he goes along with white supremacists. 

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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2024, 06:37:13 AM »
LGBT is not a community, and many of the LGB do not like being lumped in with the T. Especially the activists promoting blockers and cross sex hormones for children. They also don't want to be associated with the violent criminals who claim to be trans after they are arrested for raping women and children.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/11/01/metro/gender-affirming-care-trans-boston-childrens-hospital/

https://archive.is/99tF4

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Trial lays bare dispute over gender care at Boston Children’s Hospital
In-person evaluations of minors seeking gender care have been truncated to two hours.


The "science" behind transition is all ideology and lies. Everyone should take the time to read this amicus brief https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-477/328275/20241015131826340_2024.10.15%20-%20Ala.%20Amicus%20Br.%20iso%20TN%20FINAL.pdf 



Most people who oppose gender ideology are not "hard right". Most of us are to the left on most issues. You only pay attention to the "hard right" people because that's who the msm cover. They're not going to interview the trade unionist, or material feminists on this, because they would just say boring facts.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2024, 12:23:17 PM »
AOC has the "hard right" solution! Call anyone with dissenting views "predatory"!  https://x.com/AOC/status/1852726539772735621
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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2024, 02:00:58 PM »
I'm always baffled by members of the lgbt community supporting the GOP.  Especially the T part of lgbt these days.  I assume they don't listen to a lot of what the hard right is saying.  Basically they see transgendered people as child rapists and you know what we do with child rapists.

I don't think Trump personally feels this way.  I think he just goes along with it the same way he goes along with white supremacists.

Because you only know how to listen to what you're told. You don't understand that a person's actions speak louder than their words.

Or in some cases, their reaction to events.

Hillary Clinton Response to Orlando (Pulse Nightclub) Shooting

Donald Trump Response to Same Shooting

Hillary: We will go after your guns.
Trump: If the guy at Pulse had not been armed more people would have died. We will defend you against terrorism.

And Trump's rationale for not having transgender troops was similar. Not putting them into harm's way. Well, that, and the military is about combat readiness. If the military isn't combat ready, the country is in trouble.
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Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming … victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail.


Yes, it is a distraction.  When I worked at the library, I worked as a woman.  But I made zero fuss about being trans. No "Have I mentioned today that I'm trans?" No asking my employer for an advance of $50k so I could get a sex change. Checking in books, checking out books, serving customers, helping them find what they need.  The LGBT crowd are drama queens.  They go out of their way to make things not about where they are, and what they are doing, but about the politics.


I try to live together with people in my community. I have much more in common with people of my small town with the urban queer population. 

I don't see trans people as child rapists. But ironically, the LGBT group has lesbians and bisexuals who are wary of trans people. They too see trans women as "those men," and many lesbians have had terrible experiences with men. And if they have kids (usually adopted), they fear for their kids.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/



60% think sex is defined at birth... but 64% favor protections for trans people against discrimination.

66% Republicans think society has gone too far about accepting LGBT... but 48% (2% less than half) of Republicans are in favor of those above protections. And while the number doesn't look good for the bathrooms issue, that still leaves 1/3 that don't feel that way. More importantly, when a third option (like unisex bathrooms) is offered, that objected largely disappears.
Nearly half of U.S. adults (47%) say it’s extremely or very important to use a person’s new name if they transition to a gender that is different from the sex they were assigned at birth and change their name. (Pronouns wasn't the same) And  about 44% say forms and online profiles that ask about a person’s gender should include options other than “male” and “female” for people who don’t identify as either.

People aren't politically monolithic.

And Space Cowgirl, there is an entire group of conservatives that are in the LGBT spectrum. They are called Log Cabin Conservatives.  Though many conservatives think they want to water down the GOP. 

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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2024, 02:09:07 PM »
I'm always baffled by members of the lgbt community supporting the GOP.  Especially the T part of lgbt these days.  I assume they don't listen to a lot of what the hard right is saying.  Basically they see transgendered people as child rapists and you know what we do with child rapists.

I don't think Trump personally feels this way.  I think he just goes along with it the same way he goes along with white supremacists.

Because you only know how to listen to what you're told. You don't understand that a person's actions speak louder than their words.

Or in some cases, their reaction to events.

Hillary Clinton Response to Orlando (Pulse Nightclub) Shooting

Donald Trump Response to Same Shooting

Hillary: We will go after your guns.
Trump: If the guy at Pulse had not been armed more people would have died. We will defend you against terrorism.

And Trump's rationale for not having transgender troops was similar. Not putting them into harm's way. Well, that, and the military is about combat readiness. If the military isn't combat ready, the country is in trouble.
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Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming … victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail.


Yes, it is a distraction.  When I worked at the library, I worked as a woman.  But I made zero fuss about being trans. No "Have I mentioned today that I'm trans?" No asking my employer for an advance of $50k so I could get a sex change. Checking in books, checking out books, serving customers, helping them find what they need.  The LGBT crowd are drama queens.  They go out of their way to make things not about where they are, and what they are doing, but about the politics.


I try to live together with people in my community. I have much more in common with people of my small town with the urban queer population. 

I don't see trans people as child rapists. But ironically, the LGBT group has lesbians and bisexuals who are wary of trans people. They too see trans women as "those men," and many lesbians have had terrible experiences with men. And if they have kids (usually adopted), they fear for their kids.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/06/28/americans-complex-views-on-gender-identity-and-transgender-issues/



60% think sex is defined at birth... but 64% favor protections for trans people against discrimination.

66% Republicans think society has gone too far about accepting LGBT... but 48% (2% less than half) of Republicans are in favor of those above protections. And while the number doesn't look good for the bathrooms issue, that still leaves 1/3 that don't feel that way. More importantly, when a third option (like unisex bathrooms) is offered, that objected largely disappears.
Nearly half of U.S. adults (47%) say it’s extremely or very important to use a person’s new name if they transition to a gender that is different from the sex they were assigned at birth and change their name. (Pronouns wasn't the same) And  about 44% say forms and online profiles that ask about a person’s gender should include options other than “male” and “female” for people who don’t identify as either.

People aren't politically monolithic.

And Space Cowgirl, there is an entire group of conservatives that are in the LGBT spectrum. They are called Log Cabin Conservatives.  Though many conservatives think they want to water down the GOP.

Okay that's a lot of words that don't really have anything to do with me.  I'm a biological straight white male.  I'm going to be fine no matter who's elected.

But for those of us who don't check all those boxes, maybe reconsider supporting a party that calls you a "groomer" for being a little weird.
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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2024, 04:37:45 PM »
People arent monoliths.
But partues are.
And parties have agendas.
Sonas a person voting against your own interest....that kind makes us think hmmmmm

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2024, 06:27:03 PM »


And Space Cowgirl, there is an entire group of conservatives that are in the LGBT spectrum. They are called Log Cabin Conservatives.  Though many conservatives think they want to water down the GOP.

Yeah, I know about the Log Cabin Republicans. I don't think they are "hard right" though. They seem pretty leftish on their social policies.
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2024, 07:31:20 PM »
Yeah they're fairly close to near right, so to speak. It's just that the left has become so far left that anything to the right of them is "far right."

I'm fairly certain the term comes from this:


Not, not really.

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People arent monoliths.
But partues are.
And parties have agendas.
Sonas a person voting against your own interest....that kind makes us think hmmmmm

Cuz you're a slave to your party.

At the end of the day, so long as the person I vote for doesn't actively try to have me arrested, I can work things out myself. I'm a stubborn person, who tends to work to do what I want (whether programming, writing, art, or music). What the president thinks isn't the end of the story. I vote for him because he tries to stop tyranny of the woke. If that manages, I can convince my own town to accept me as I am, no problem. Lord, save us from regulations.This idea that you need a president who panders to you (while they increase regulation) is just stupid.

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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2024, 04:42:40 AM »
LGBT is not a community, and many of the LGB do not like being lumped in with the T. Especially the activists promoting blockers and cross sex hormones for children. They also don't want to be associated with the violent criminals who claim to be trans after they are arrested for raping women and children.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/11/01/metro/gender-affirming-care-trans-boston-childrens-hospital/

https://archive.is/99tF4

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Trial lays bare dispute over gender care at Boston Children’s Hospital
In-person evaluations of minors seeking gender care have been truncated to two hours.


The "science" behind transition is all ideology and lies. Everyone should take the time to read this amicus brief https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-477/328275/20241015131826340_2024.10.15%20-%20Ala.%20Amicus%20Br.%20iso%20TN%20FINAL.pdf 



Most people who oppose gender ideology are not "hard right". Most of us are to the left on most issues. You only pay attention to the "hard right" people because that's who the msm cover. They're not going to interview the trade unionist, or material feminists on this, because they would just say boring facts.

You can find "many" people in all sorts of groups supporting all sorts of weird things. Your Twitter feed might not at all be as representative as you think. Gay people remember being called pederasts by and large 30 years ago.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2024, 05:17:03 AM »
There's not a single link to Twitter in the post you replied to.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2024, 07:47:01 AM »
Yeah they're fairly close to near right, so to speak. It's just that the left has become so far left that anything to the right of them is "far right."

I'm fairly certain the term comes from this:


Not, not really.

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People arent monoliths.
But partues are.
And parties have agendas.
Sonas a person voting against your own interest....that kind makes us think hmmmmm

Cuz you're a slave to your party.

At the end of the day, so long as the person I vote for doesn't actively try to have me arrested, I can work things out myself. I'm a stubborn person, who tends to work to do what I want (whether programming, writing, art, or music). What the president thinks isn't the end of the story. I vote for him because he tries to stop tyranny of the woke. If that manages, I can convince my own town to accept me as I am, no problem. Lord, save us from regulations.This idea that you need a president who panders to you (while they increase regulation) is just stupid.


i'm not a slave to my party.
we're a slave to the two party system.
big money and citizensU ensures it stays taht way.


but you, you stupid stupd person, don't realize that single voter issues where policy is made to win you over, overwelmingly also hurts more you in other aspects.

"defeat the woke" is what you're voting for.
meanwhile you complain about taxes, healthcare, roads, and all sorts of other things.

also, as pointed out in this transgender thread - they think you should be locked up.


you not understanding contradiction and conflict of interest is astounding.


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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2024, 12:11:41 PM »
Who thinks he should be locked up? I see people saying that sort of hyperbolic thing all the time, but idk which politician has said trans people (who haven't committed crimes) should be locked up.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2024, 12:33:52 PM »
The party in general.

Pedos.
Mentally ill.

Those are the words.

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2024, 01:53:19 PM »
Okay, so pedos should be locked up, and it is a mental illness, but we don't lock people up for being mentally ill unless they commit a crime or are a danger to themselves.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2024, 04:25:21 PM »
Ok looks oike its just viv and tuckerC and magicthegathering.

He oither monkeys are just pandering with banning the woke.

But if you ban it.... will thwy become like the closeted 70s 80s lurking in the shadows?
Bathouse raids and such?


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/21/us/politics/republican-candidates-2024-transgender-rights.html





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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2024, 05:34:57 PM »
I can't read the whole thing because I don't have paywall bypass right now, but just reading the short paragraphs that seems like an insane article. lol  Nikki Haley signed a pledge declaring "sex is binary"! Get the smelling salts.

Who was in the closet in the 70s and 80s? Are you confusing gay men with modern transwomen? Most of them aren't gay, unless you think that men identifying as lesbians makes them gay? idk.  These men have a paraphilia, no one is going to ban their fetish, but the rest of us shouldn't be required to participate. No one will stop them wearing women's clothes, but hopefully we will stop them from wanking in the women's public bathrooms.

Hopefully what will be banned is what passes for "gender affirming care" for children. Disabling a kid's healthy endocrine system for cosmetic purposes is insane and should be criminal. You should read that amicus brief I posted.



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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2024, 09:35:05 PM »
Who thinks he should be locked up? I see people saying that sort of hyperbolic thing all the time, but idk which politician has said trans people (who haven't committed crimes) should be locked up.

And crimes should still be crimes.

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Who was in the closet in the 70s and 80s? Are you confusing gay men with modern transwomen? Most of them aren't gay, unless you think that men identifying as lesbians makes them gay? idk.  These men have a paraphilia, no one is going to ban their fetish, but the rest of us shouldn't be required to participate. No one will stop them wearing women's clothes, but hopefully we will stop them from wanking in the women's public bathrooms.

Hopefully what will be banned is what passes for "gender affirming care" for children. Disabling a kid's healthy endocrine system for cosmetic purposes is insane and should be criminal. You should read that amicus brief I posted.

I agree with you about the latter point.

As for bathrooms, using bathrooms for their intended purposes (peeing, pooping, changing, redoing makeup) ought not be illegal, no matter how you look.
Wanking outside your own home or outside a private space is a crime of indecent exposure. So is molesting little kids, peeping in stalls while people are in a state on undress, sexual assault, physical assault, or any other crimes. The crime is not the crossdressing nor even the entry into the room (as I say, shouldn't be a crime if you're using these rooms as intended). This is because clothes are fabric and a room is just a room.  But what you do to other people is what constitutes crime. That's what I think ought to be the law, anyway.

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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2024, 06:26:28 AM »


If anyone is still wondering why some LGB look favorably upon (some) conservatives, or at least appreciate them for their stance on this issue.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2024, 06:39:11 AM »
I can't read the whole thing because I don't have paywall bypass right now, but just reading the short paragraphs that seems like an insane article. lol  Nikki Haley signed a pledge declaring "sex is binary"! Get the smelling salts.

Who was in the closet in the 70s and 80s? Are you confusing gay men with modern transwomen? Most of them aren't gay, unless you think that men identifying as lesbians makes them gay? idk.  These men have a paraphilia, no one is going to ban their fetish, but the rest of us shouldn't be required to participate. No one will stop them wearing women's clothes, but hopefully we will stop them from wanking in the women's public bathrooms.

Hopefully what will be banned is what passes for "gender affirming care" for children. Disabling a kid's healthy endocrine system for cosmetic purposes is insane and should be criminal. You should read that amicus brief I posted.


Oh i agree there are crazy left moron  eztremists where any comment of genuine concern and regulatroy brakes  is incorectly seen as bigorty

But these can be fair and balanced brakes if professionals and not crazyhousekarens.

Howwver, the extreme maga side says  ban everything and check genitls at sports events, washroom check, labeling as pedos
How do you fair and balamce checks to soften such discrimination?

You wont go out because you cant use the toilet without being outted.
You wont join sports because uore a big girl and dont want to be labeleld a man-woman.
Cant be a teacher.
You end up hiding or becoming like the 70s gays where they were sneaking around for fear of being arrested or beaten.

Being queer d9esnt mean youre a pedo.
There was a movie, cant rmemeber
But they arrrest and fired a teacher and the other teacher says "he gay not a pedo".
Thw ridiculous fear of trannies in mixed washrooms is nonsense.
Youre more likepy to have been raped at curch, hockey, boyscouts, 1st date.
Kids are more likely to be shot yet bathrooms are to be feared.

Nonsense.

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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2024, 07:59:05 AM »
Nobody is calling for genitals to be checked. A cheek swab sex test for elite sports is not invasive. They test for doping with a urine sample, they can test for sex with a cheek swab. Why is one okay, but the other not? Who is the "extreme MAGA side"?  What do you mean by "fair and balanced"? 

I don't know what a crazyhousekaren is. I do know that anyone, no matter how reasonable, is called a bigot if they think medical transition should be evidence based.

"You wont go out because you cant use the toilet without being outted."  - but it's fine if women and girls won't go out, because they don't want to share public toilets with creeps.

"You wont join sports because uore a big girl and dont want to be labeleld a man-woman." - It's better for the women to be punched in the face by a man, then? Women have always been accused of being manly if they are athletic, but sex is observed at birth (and often before). A woman can prove she is female.

"Cant be a teacher." - why not? There's no reason kids need to know about their teachers sex lives.

"You end up hiding or becoming like the 70s gays where they were sneaking around for fear of being arrested or beaten." - The predatory ones should be afraid.

What does "being queer" mean? 

Yes, I'm sure you are not worried about men in the women's bathrooms at all. Most men aren't.





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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2024, 09:48:09 AM »
I check when my kids go in.
Dangerous menm in washrooms has nothing to do with lgbt1234xyz and everything to do with w9men only gyms, women checking back seats and locking doors, women not walking at night etcetc.

However
Men in prison are way moee careful eith the soap...

Stay in context here.



Yes
The crazies are wanting to check gentials.
Google it.







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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2024, 10:54:40 AM »
No one will stop them wearing women's clothes, but hopefully we will stop them from wanking in the women's public bathrooms.

FFS.

Maybe if you stopped portraying trans people as a bunch perverts, people would take your concerns more seriously?

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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2024, 11:03:26 AM »
We have much more efficient systems in Utah.  If you look sort of manly then you're a man, short hair, wearing pants etc.  Our barbers have the power to legally change someone's gender.
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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2024, 11:14:58 AM »
No one will stop them wearing women's clothes, but hopefully we will stop them from wanking in the women's public bathrooms.

FFS.

Maybe if you stopped portraying trans people as a bunch perverts, people would take your concerns more seriously?

People are taking my concerns seriously! Maybe not here on the FES, but these concerns are winding their way through the courts. Soon to be the Supreme Court. 

OH and btw, I am not "portraying trans people as a bunch of perverts" they post the videos of themselves wanking in women's bathrooms online. They brag about jerking off and leaving semen on the bathroom walls. They threaten women with violence if they complain.  These are not men with gender dysphoria, they are men with a fetish. This ideology gives them cover, because if you object to their behavior,  someone like you will come along and scold the person objecting. lol
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2024, 11:28:07 AM »
I check when my kids go in.
Dangerous menm in washrooms has nothing to do with lgbt1234xyz and everything to do with w9men only gyms, women checking back seats and locking doors, women not walking at night etcetc.

However
Men in prison are way moee careful eith the soap...

Stay in context here.



Yes
The crazies are wanting to check gentials.
Google it.


Not being allowed to kick the dangerous man out of the women's bathroom if he says he is a woman is the problem. For some reason you understand that there are men who are dangerous to women, but you can't seem to make the connection. These are men, putting on women's clothes, or changing pronouns doesn't change reality.

Men in prison are way more careful with the soap because men are more violent than women, but never fear, those dangerous men can be moved to the female estate if they catch ladyfeels.

Are you telling yourself to stay in context? lol

Okay, so I did google it. Some states, like Ohio, require a physician to do an exam if someone's sex is in question. Teenage girls start getting their genitals examined at around 16yrs old anyway. They should get rid of the "genital exam" and just go with a cheek swab. It is less invasive, and not creepy sounding. 
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2024, 11:30:59 AM »
I think this would pretty solidly sum up what I mean.


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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2024, 11:42:45 AM »
No one will stop them wearing women's clothes, but hopefully we will stop them from wanking in the women's public bathrooms.

FFS.

Maybe if you stopped portraying trans people as a bunch perverts, people would take your concerns more seriously?

People are taking my concerns seriously! Maybe not here on the FES, but these concerns are winding their way through the courts. Soon to be the Supreme Court. 

OH and btw, I am not "portraying trans people as a bunch of perverts" they post the videos of themselves wanking in women's bathrooms online. They brag about jerking off and leaving semen on the bathroom walls. They threaten women with violence if they complain.  These are not men with gender dysphoria, they are men with a fetish. This ideology gives them cover, because if you object to their behavior,  someone like you will come along and scold the person objecting. lol

And in other news immigrants are rapists and criminals.


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Re: Pinning Down Transgender Rights
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2024, 12:12:03 PM »
No one will stop them wearing women's clothes, but hopefully we will stop them from wanking in the women's public bathrooms.

FFS.

Maybe if you stopped portraying trans people as a bunch perverts, people would take your concerns more seriously?

People are taking my concerns seriously! Maybe not here on the FES, but these concerns are winding their way through the courts. Soon to be the Supreme Court. 

OH and btw, I am not "portraying trans people as a bunch of perverts" they post the videos of themselves wanking in women's bathrooms online. They brag about jerking off and leaving semen on the bathroom walls. They threaten women with violence if they complain.  These are not men with gender dysphoria, they are men with a fetish. This ideology gives them cover, because if you object to their behavior,  someone like you will come along and scold the person objecting. lol

And in other news immigrants are rapists and criminals.

Are the immigrants uploading video of themselves being rapists and criminals? Are they posting their criminal fantasies on reddit? Are they being celebrated by society for it? Are they given positions in major charities and NGOs? Are they invited to the White House? Do they just want to talk to the kids about going no contact with their parents?
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.