Are Stars real?

  • 5 Replies
  • 1133 Views
Are Stars real?
« on: October 13, 2024, 06:03:04 AM »
Now, I am by no means a “Flat Earther” but, that said, I have been considering a strange observation.
As we stand on the Earth and look at our Sun, it appears about the size of a golf ball held at arm’s length, while being some 93 million miles distant and about some 864,000 miles across. If we do the same from Mars, the Sun appears smaller than the size of a ping pong ball at arm’s length and from Jupiter, it is about the size of a pea.
The supposedly largest Star presently known is UY Scuti, which, if placed in our solar system, would fill the inner solar system out to about the orbit of Jupiter. Therefore, its diameter is approximately 1,000,000,000 (one billion) miles.
Now, using the above idea/sample, if the Sun (diameter 840,000 miles) looks like a pea from 142,000,000 miles (Mars) then we can postulate that UY Scuti would look approximately the size of a basketball from Pluto, some 3,186,000,000 (3 billion one hundred and eighty six million) miles distant.
We look at the night sky and we see a blanket of Stars, some large, some small, some close and some very distant, but we see them with the naked eye.
Noting the above, we would not be able to see our own Sun from Pluto but we can see stars of relatively the same size from ones, tens, hundreds or thousands of light years away.
A “pix” taken by Voyager shows all planets and the Sun. These are greatly magnified pix and still the Sun is only barely visible from the approximate 4 billion mile distance. This assumes that there actually were Voyager space crafts.
However, if “they” wanted to prove that other stars were real why show our own star almost invisible from a mere 4 billion miles but the Universe full of equal sized stars being easily visible with the naked eye?
Just throwing it out there.

*

wise

  • Professor
  • Flat Earth Scientist
  • 26232
  • The Only Yang Scholar in Ying Universe
Re: Are Stars real?
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2024, 11:09:39 PM »
Now, I am by no means a “Flat Earther” but, that said, I have been considering a strange observation.
As we stand on the Earth and look at our Sun, it appears about the size of a golf ball held at arm’s length, while being some 93 million miles distant and about some 864,000 miles across. If we do the same from Mars, the Sun appears smaller than the size of a ping pong ball at arm’s length and from Jupiter, it is about the size of a pea.
The supposedly largest Star presently known is UY Scuti, which, if placed in our solar system, would fill the inner solar system out to about the orbit of Jupiter. Therefore, its diameter is approximately 1,000,000,000 (one billion) miles.
Now, using the above idea/sample, if the Sun (diameter 840,000 miles) looks like a pea from 142,000,000 miles (Mars) then we can postulate that UY Scuti would look approximately the size of a basketball from Pluto, some 3,186,000,000 (3 billion one hundred and eighty six million) miles distant.
We look at the night sky and we see a blanket of Stars, some large, some small, some close and some very distant, but we see them with the naked eye.
Noting the above, we would not be able to see our own Sun from Pluto but we can see stars of relatively the same size from ones, tens, hundreds or thousands of light years away.
A “pix” taken by Voyager shows all planets and the Sun. These are greatly magnified pix and still the Sun is only barely visible from the approximate 4 billion mile distance. This assumes that there actually were Voyager space crafts.
However, if “they” wanted to prove that other stars were real why show our own star almost invisible from a mere 4 billion miles but the Universe full of equal sized stars being easily visible with the naked eye?
Just throwing it out there.
Attention grabbing observations.

As a globularist, it’s surprising that you have the insight to notice the inconsistencies in the apparent sizes. This is something we often don’t see in most globularists, as their understanding is generally closed off.

When we look at the Sun and the stars, it makes you wonder if the Sun is really as far away or as big as scientists say. From Mars, the Sun looks pretty small, and by the time you get to Pluto, it’s almost gone! So why can we see stars that seem much bigger and brighter, even though they’re supposed to be way farther away? It feels a bit off, doesn’t it?

From a flat Earther perspective, those stars aren’t as distant as you think, and they are actually waves created by the vibrations of the firmament.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1


Ignored:
Jura II (until 2027)
Bulma (Until 2026)
Jackblack (Until 2028)

I’m I a globalist AI.

Re: Are Stars real?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2024, 04:26:02 AM »
Dear Wise, Thank you for the feedback. I happened on some "Flat Earth" posts and, while my brain is old it still (Thankfully) questions inconsistencies.

Here is a thought on how to possibly answer the “Flat Earth” theory. The Sun/Moon/etc. are all constantly above the Flat Earth. Their size varies by their distance from the observer (one point perspective), this was posted by someone explaining why the Sun does not set but simply goes out of sight at a distance. Now, from the sea shore looking East over the open ocean at just before Sunrise please note if the top or the bottom of the most distant cloud is darker than the opposite side of the cloud. Since the Sun on a “Flat Earth” is always above the cloud layer then the bottom of the cloud should always be dark but if there is a “Globe” Earth then the underside of the cloud should be illuminated as the Sun comes around the globe. Your thoughts?

*

wise

  • Professor
  • Flat Earth Scientist
  • 26232
  • The Only Yang Scholar in Ying Universe
Re: Are Stars real?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2024, 06:07:51 AM »
Dear abrooks051;

Thank you for your thought-provoking observations. Both theories can use these arguments to their advantage. However, since this platform is primarily for questions and answers, and I wish to avoid inviting further discussion from other writers, I won't be responding to your intriguing questions at this time. Your main question was about the reality of stars and the flat earth perspective on this matter. I have provided my response, so I consider the topic concluded from my side.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1


Ignored:
Jura II (until 2027)
Bulma (Until 2026)
Jackblack (Until 2028)

I’m I a globalist AI.

Re: Are Stars real?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2024, 06:48:50 AM »
Wise, I found the answer to my question on another post by DataOverFlow 2022, he/she showed photos of clouds.

*

wise

  • Professor
  • Flat Earth Scientist
  • 26232
  • The Only Yang Scholar in Ying Universe
Re: Are Stars real?
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2024, 01:12:18 AM »
If you’re posting on a flat Earth forum, you might not fully grasp the answer to your question from a globalist perspective. The person you mentioned is considered a globalist, so there’s a high chance their response aligns with your beliefs. It might be more beneficial for you to discuss these topics in the debate section of the forum, where you can engage with perspectives that resonate more with your views. With this mindset, asking in the Q&A section may lead to answers from flat Earthers that seem illogical to you. As I mentioned before, asking new questions or a chain question-and-answer format is not a method I participate in. Wishing you an enjoyable time on the forum.
1+2+3+...+∞= 1


Ignored:
Jura II (until 2027)
Bulma (Until 2026)
Jackblack (Until 2028)

I’m I a globalist AI.