what are flat earthers telling about Hurricane Milton that is happening now?

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Why is hurricane Milton rotating anticlockwise?

How did it form?

What sets the size of hurricane?

What track will it follow?

Why are hurricanes so frequent in the some band of latitude and nil in very north, very south and the equator?

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bulmabriefs144

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If you expect us to be prophets because of our theory, you are sorely mistaken. 


Hurricanes are very common because tides have nothing to do with the moon. Currently it is a crescent (I want to say waning) so yeah. They have to do with seasons (almost always happens in fall) and with whirlpools.  And calm zones. Calm zones are regions that have regular water ebb and flow without tides. Typically, these are due to some sort of obstructive feature (islands, rocks, etc) but some are just really far from any pull or push from tidal vortexes (whirlpools). So here's the deal. There are several fairly stable whirlpools across the world.

One's in Scotland (Corryvreckan), another in Japan (Naruto Whirlpools), there's one in New Brunswick (Old Sow), one in Canada (Skookumchuck Narrows), two near the Norway (Moskstraumen and Saltstraumen), one near Niagara Falls (Niagara Whirlpool).

And there are also areas where temporary whirlpools form. You been paying attention so far?


What do you think happens when tidal zones combine? Especially warm and cold tidal zones.  When currents coming from Africa (near the southern hemisphere) Texas and Florida (northern hemisphere) combine, you have hot water wrapping around cold water. Why not in winter? Probably because in fall, the temperature is starting to change as well (whereas in winter and summer, it's more stable). It's too hot in summer, too cold in winter.

NOAA says this is cause by Earth's rotation and warm water, but this would make hurricanes happen during the summer. And all the time, if the Earth constantly rotates. It's caused by influx of water of different pressures and temperatures. Some evaporates, some condensates, and this shifting creates turbulence.


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JackBlack

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If you expect us to be prophets because of our theory, you are sorely mistaken.
We don't expect you or your prophets to have any answers.

But we would expect an honest, intelligent person who has rejected the mainstream model which works so well and adopted an alternative model, to be able to know issues with that alternative model and be able to address them to explain why that alternative model is better than the mainstream model.

But of course, that would assume people adopted it based upon wanting to adopt the truth; which clearly doesn't describe you.

Hurricanes are very common because tides have nothing to do with the moon.
So pure nonsense?

There are several fairly stable whirlpools across the world.
One's in Scotland (Corryvreckan)
And straight off the bat you appeal to a tidal whirlpool which relies upon the movement of large amounts of water to generate them, which comes and goes with the tides.
These are not stable whirlpools.
These are particular topographical features which lend themselves to the formation of whirlpools with large amounts of water flowing over due to tides.
And the direction they turn is based upon the topography.
This does nothing to address the issue raised.

What do you think happens when tidal zones combine?
A variety of different things.

NOAA says this is cause by Earth's rotation and warm water, but this would make hurricanes happen during the summer. And all the time, if the Earth constantly rotates.
Why?
If it was perfectly homogenous, then there would be none forming.

It's caused by influx of water of different pressures and temperatures. Some evaporates, some condensates, and this shifting creates turbulence.
None of which explain why it causes a hurricane.

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Space Cowgirl

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I am saying that if you are in zones A and B on the west coast, to evacuate. If you live in a mobile home or an RV to find a shelter or evacuate.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

I am saying that if you are in zones A and B on the west coast, to evacuate. If you live in a mobile home or an RV to find a shelter or evacuate.

Probably the wisest thing posted on this site. 
« Last Edit: October 09, 2024, 09:49:40 AM by DataOverFlow2022 »

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Space Cowgirl

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Also, do not touch downed power lines.
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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bulmabriefs144

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But we would expect an honest, intelligent person who has rejected the mainstream model which works so well and adopted an alternative model, to be able to know issues with that alternative model and be able to address them to explain why that alternative model is better than the mainstream model.

And when I get my Masters in Meteorology and Atmospheric Science, I'm be sure to tell you.

But while we're on that topic, actual weather forecasters often get it wrong, so neither having a model, nor a fancy degree means you'll have the faintest idea which track it's heading. The computer generates the tracks, you wait an hour and hope it went down the one you picked.

Why do meteorologists get it wrong? Because meteorology is just cloud reading pretending to be science. Having done cloud reading myself, I have occasionally gotten it right, but that's a thing of hunches and feelings, not numbers.  Oh yes, they have computer data showing humidity, wind speed, and so on.  Looking at the data, and relooking at the clouds, I might be more accurate the second time I try to read them.  But at the end of the day, though, it's just a hunch. We have a percent chance, but a roll of the 1d100 dice is still not a real fact. 90% might still have no rain at all. Btw, they update their percents, so it looks like they are accurate.

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JackBlack

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And when I get my Masters in Meteorology and Atmospheric Science, I'm be sure to tell you.
I'm not saying you need a degree. I'm saying if you were honest and intelligent and were rejecting a model because you wanted to adopt the truth, you should have a basic idea about these things, which you clearly don't.

But while we're on that topic, actual weather forecasters often get it wrong, so neither having a model, nor a fancy degree means you'll have the faintest idea which track it's heading.
They get the exact path wrong.
But they have a general idea of which way it is going, with different predictions providing slightly different paths.
This is because it is a chaotic system.

Why do meteorologists get it wrong?
Because it is a chaotic system which is highly sensitive to initial inputs.

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Why do meteorologists get it wrong?

Why don’t flaties have better predictions and forecasts? 

Bulma, you say that according to the NOAA explanations that we should have hurricanes in the summer, as if we don't already.

Hurricane season is June 1st - November 30th. This covers the entirety of Summer.