Experiments

I propose to have actual experiments preformed to prove/disprove flat earth. Flat earthers, could you please show us your experiments to prove flat earth, and run the scientific method on them (attached below) up to constructing a hypothesis. Then I (or other globe earthers) can discuss the workings of your model/experiment and then we both, flat earthers and globe earthers, can preform the experiment and record actual results.

I (or other globe earthers) can also suggest our own experiments that can prove globe earth, and I ask that flat earthers to preform the experiment correctly.

I hope the experiments proposed here have a high ability to prove/disprove, with drastic changes to the experiment if it were globe earth or flat earth to prevent experimental factors.

Thank you very much for taking part in these experiments.

Scientific Method:

Here is my experiment I wish to conduct to prove globe earth:
1. Go to a beach at almost sunset.
2. Lay down and watch the sunset over the horizon.
3. Stand up and go to a place with higher elevation. Watch the sunset again.

This proves globe earth because on a sphere, when the earth rotates away from the sun while you are lying down, your angle of viewing is different than when you stand up. When you stand up, you raise in height just enough to see the sun again.


If there is any part of this experiment you would like to dispute, please say so below. I will look at your reasons (such as refraction) and come up with another experiment to test whether your reason actually does disprove my experiment. (such as testing refraction through a crystal with a laser and doing math to calculate the refractive index needed in the sky, then viewing the sun at another time to test if the refraction does indeed exist or not).

I have done the beach experiment and I did indeed see sunset twice. If you do not believe me, please do so yourself. Search online for more detailed instructions.

Thank you.

Here is my experiment I wish to conduct to prove globe earth:
1. Go to a beach at almost sunset.
2. Lay down and watch the sunset over the horizon.
3. Stand up and go to a place with higher elevation. Watch the sunset again.

This proves globe earth because on a sphere, when the earth rotates away from the sun while you are lying down, your angle of viewing is different than when you stand up. When you stand up, you raise in height just enough to see the sun again.


If there is any part of this experiment you would like to dispute, please say so below. I will look at your reasons (such as refraction) and come up with another experiment to test whether your reason actually does disprove my experiment. (such as testing refraction through a crystal with a laser and doing math to calculate the refractive index needed in the sky, then viewing the sun at another time to test if the refraction does indeed exist or not).

I have done the beach experiment and I did indeed see sunset twice. If you do not believe me, please do so yourself. Search online for more detailed instructions.

Thank you.

Sphincteroid,

Your experiment sounds like a back injury waiting to happen!

Mine is far safer.

Go to the beach which faces East at Sunrise or West at Sunset. This is so you see the sun either rising over the ocean horizon or setting over the ocean horizon.

Sit calmly on the beach so that you are close to being at sea level. Now hold your hand out in front of you nice and flat. Observe the rising or setting sun's rays illuminating the underside of your hand.

Congratulations! You have just proved Earth curvature with a distant sun in outer space  and that the sun cannot be circling around the ceiling of a dome over a flat earth, in one effortless little experiment.

This proves globe earth ...

There are no proofs in science. At best your hypothesis is not disproved.

Welcome Spheroid,

The scientific method is known to have limitations in conceptual applications, including Earth shape. Confirmation of this is provided with the search engine.

You will become fluent in Earth shape dynamics by employing the Zetetic method:
https://sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za04.htm

Study Zetetic methodologies and apply them to the experiments you consider essential to Earth shape.

Feel free to also explore the site looking for Zetetic logic that has turned-around, many round Earth believers.

You will become fluent in Earth shape dynamics by employing the Zetetic method:

Simple application of the Zetetic method refutes key parts of FE theology.

Going back to what has been proposed.
I sit on the beach watching the sun set, clearly watching it go below Earth.
This directly contradicts the FE theology where the sun remains above Earth at all times.
Zeteticism, when actually applied, destroys the FE.

Likewise, another example is how if I increase my elevation, I can see further, around a curve.

Zeteticism does not support a FE.

Quote from: Spheroid on July 30, 2024, 10:05:56 AM

This proves globe earth ...

There are no proofs in science. At best your hypothesis is not disproved.

His scientific experiment disproves the flat earth hypothesis and does not disprove his spheroid earth hypothesis, Crapper Knickers.

Study Zetetic methodologies and apply them to the experiments you consider essential to Earth shape.

Zetetic method is known to have much-much more limitations than Scientific method and it's always better to use method with less limitations. Zetetic method is also expired. Don't use spoiled ingredients when you make lunch.

Here is my experiment I wish to conduct to prove globe earth:
1. Go to a beach at almost sunset.
2. Lay down and watch the sunset over the horizon.
3. Stand up and go to a place with higher elevation. Watch the sunset again.

This proves globe earth because on a sphere, when the earth rotates away from the sun while you are lying down, your angle of viewing is different than when you stand up. When you stand up, you raise in height just enough to see the sun again.


If there is any part of this experiment you would like to dispute, please say so below. I will look at your reasons (such as refraction) and come up with another experiment to test whether your reason actually does disprove my experiment. (such as testing refraction through a crystal with a laser and doing math to calculate the refractive index needed in the sky, then viewing the sun at another time to test if the refraction does indeed exist or not).

I have done the beach experiment and I did indeed see sunset twice. If you do not believe me, please do so yourself. Search online for more detailed instructions.

Thank you.

The global spinning Earth cannot work for your sunrise and sunset.
Your picture offers an angled rather than a level vision.

If you are standing on a beach looking at the sun before it supposedly sets and are looking horizontally level into the theoretical horizon as the sun disappears, then you could assume your global Earth is rotating you back over making that sun disappear from your level view.
However, if this were the case, then no tower would ever offer you a vantage point to bring that sun back into view, as your angle would still be a level scope as you continued to move back over, meaning even more height difference from your sun by rotating angle.

However, if you were looking through level atmosphere along the horizontal as your sun moves away and loses light back to your vision, you could gain height and restore some light back to the eye, thus bringing the sun back into view, which could only happen over a horizontal atmospheric view, not a curved atmospheric view.

Hence, the Earth is absolutely not a globe and certainly not a spinning one.

The global spinning Earth cannot work for your sunrise and sunset.

If you want to debunk a rotating earth with a drawing, might I suggest that you draw the earth with your observer rotating with the earth instead of being who knows how far away from the earth?

The global spinning Earth cannot work for your sunrise and sunset.
Your picture offers an angled rather than a level vision.

No one other than you said anything about a magical pinprick level vision.
No one said anything about using a level scope.

That is something you decided to insert to pretend reality doesn't work.

If you are standing on a beach looking at the sun before it supposedly sets and are looking horizontally level into the theoretical horizon as the sun disappears, then you could assume your global Earth is rotating you back over making that sun disappear from your level view.
However, if this were the case, then no tower would ever offer you a vantage point to bring that sun back into view, as your angle would still be a level scope as you continued to move back over, meaning even more height difference from your sun by rotating angle.

No, that is not the case.
That is a strawman of the case.

This has nothing at all to do with your magical pinprick level view.
It has to do with Earth blocking the view.
The sun doesn't magically disappear because your view is too tiny.
It disappears because Earth blocks the view to it.
By getting up higher, you can see further around Earth.

However, if you were looking through level atmosphere along the horizontal as your sun moves away and loses light back to your vision

It has nothing to do with light magically dying.

Especially not as you can look behind you and still see things lit up by the sun, things which would have to take a much longer path.
This shows it is not light magically dying.
This shows something blocks the view, i.e. Earth.


So no, the evidence shows Earth is round and rotating.

Do you mind if I introduce the concept of looking down? Maybe turn your head down a bit so your line of sight is not parallel to the tangent line of the Earth in your position? What is stopping you from looking down?