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Why Do You Support kaMALa harriS?

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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #270 on: August 22, 2024, 02:00:33 AM »
Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on August 22, 2024, 01:58:11 AM
It’s kind of annoying when I see people intimating that because A is a politician and B is a politician, and politicians are on the whole a bunch of self-serving wretches, it doesn’t matter if I vote for the complete wretch just to see what happens because they are all the same and it won’t be my fault as it would have probably happened in any case.

Vote for the "left wing" party. No one will stop you.

Maybe things will get better.
Who's to say.

Seriously tho.
No serious person thinks this can be fixed. Everyone is just trying to get theirs before someone gets left holding the bag.
https://www.usdebtclock.org/

There isn't going to be a return journey Mr Jura.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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« Reply #271 on: August 22, 2024, 02:27:24 AM »

Well, the meme you are using apart from having a strong homo-erotic element, (and there’s nothing wrong with that D1, but it’s a strong theme with you and I think you should level with us), led to the destruction of evil and a new dawn.

The counter you linked to shows the lie in the capitalist system, until we stop listening to them things will obviously get worse as pursuit of profit always comes at the expense of those at the base of the money pyramid and the environment.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #272 on: August 22, 2024, 02:38:07 AM »
Sam went home and married the prettiest hobbit in the village and had a bunch of hobbitses.
"She had ribbons in her hair"
I love LOTR have watched the movies many times but that line always hits me so hard. It's a great line it says so much in so few words.

You know Tolkien considered Sam the hero? Sam was based on the batmen during the war, Tolkien had a great deal of respect for them.

Quote from: Jura-Glenlivet II on August 22, 2024, 02:27:24 AM
The counter you linked to shows the lie in the capitalist system, until we stop listening to them things will obviously get worse as pursuit of profit always comes at the expense of those at the base of the money pyramid and the environment.

Yeah but there's no realistic way out of it.
Unless you have an idea?

You're better than saying to vote for the "left wing" party.

Edit.
When Sam and Rosie got married she also wore ribbons in her hair, and flowers.

It was a beautiful touch.

Second edit / breakfast.
I'm going to watch the Hobbit again, it's not as bad as people say. Better then the oh lawd of dem rangs anyway.
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Why would that be inciting terrorism?  Lorddave was merely describing a type of shop we have here in the US, a bomb-gun shop.  A shop that sells bomb-guns.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #273 on: August 22, 2024, 03:06:36 AM »

I’m no more saying just blindly vote for the left wing (if Kamala is left wing, I’m chairman Mao), than I’m saying Sam/you were hiding their gender preference to appease their peer group.
I’m saying vote for your country not for personality or a single issue.
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« Reply #274 on: August 22, 2024, 03:08:22 AM »
The opposite of saying a lot with only a few words is obviously saying not much at all with a lot of words.



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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #275 on: August 22, 2024, 03:18:05 AM »

Was he happy though? Or buckling under to the dominant patriarchal masculine paradigm of the hero archetype through shame and self-loathing at the secret love he had been programed to see as deviant? (we can do this through Sam if you like).
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #276 on: August 22, 2024, 03:21:53 AM »
If you want to get under my skin you would be better off pointing out that I don't have a wife or children despite wanting them. If you want to.



Anyway, do you want to play our games or do you want to play werepenguin? Is it even happening? Wise is so excited he's about to burn toast.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #277 on: August 22, 2024, 03:28:17 AM »

Nobody gets my jokes, but you do accentuate macho imagery which I was poking fun of.

As to Werepenguin it will take a little time to see if there are any other players and then to write it.

Kamala for Queen!
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #278 on: August 22, 2024, 06:59:22 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/21/economy/bls-jobs-revisions/index.html

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US job growth during much of the past year was significantly weaker than initially estimated, according to new data released Wednesday.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics’ preliminary annual benchmark review of employment data suggests that there were 818,000 fewer jobs in March of this year than were initially reported.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/commerce-sec-doesnt-believe-news-grim-job-revisions-because-trump-said-it-im-not-familiar-that

Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo did not believe it, because Trump said it at a rally. Of course Trump accused the Biden admin of hiding the data (no evidence of that), but Raimondo said she wasn't familiar with the BLS revision. Secretary of Commerce is supposed to be about jobs (and commerce)!

I just find it kind of crazy how worthless some of the people working in the Biden administration are. If we're going to ever get past the Trump years, they've got to start hiring people because they are good at their jobs.

Secretary of Commerce -
The Secretary of Commerce is the head of the United States Department of Commerce. The role of the Secretary includes promotion of National and foreign commerce (business), the promotion of national economic growth, job creation, improved living conditions, technological competitiveness, and sustainable development.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #279 on: August 22, 2024, 07:50:53 AM »
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Quote from: Themightykabool on August 21, 2024, 11:58:20 PM
Printing money isnt what caused covinflation.

I'm not arguing that greed didnt have a lot to do with it but it's a 1+1=2 kind of equation.

Print more money, money is worth less.

Anyway Kamancelot will fix the corporate greed right?


Except it happened everywhere
Global
Pandemic

Supply chain meant certain products were increased.

It is not a factor of printing money.

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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #280 on: August 22, 2024, 08:54:08 AM »
It's common sense that printing more money would equate to some inflation.  The amount spent doesn't seem to correlate to level of inflation we're seeing country by country though.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/15/in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world-inflation-is-high-and-getting-higher/

https://www.imf.org/en/Topics/imf-and-covid19/Fiscal-Policies-Database-in-Response-to-COVID-19

I'm not an economist but the fact that I've never seen both parties move so fast to pass something this big tells me that the cost of not passing it would have been far greater.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #281 on: August 22, 2024, 09:32:17 AM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 22, 2024, 06:59:22 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/21/economy/bls-jobs-revisions/index.html

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US job growth during much of the past year was significantly weaker than initially estimated, according to new data released Wednesday.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics’ preliminary annual benchmark review of employment data suggests that there were 818,000 fewer jobs in March of this year than were initially reported.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/commerce-sec-doesnt-believe-news-grim-job-revisions-because-trump-said-it-im-not-familiar-that

Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo did not believe it, because Trump said it at a rally. Of course Trump accused the Biden admin of hiding the data (no evidence of that), but Raimondo said she wasn't familiar with the BLS revision. Secretary of Commerce is supposed to be about jobs (and commerce)!

I just find it kind of crazy how worthless some of the people working in the Biden administration are. If we're going to ever get past the Trump years, they've got to start hiring people because they are good at their jobs.

Secretary of Commerce -
The Secretary of Commerce is the head of the United States Department of Commerce. The role of the Secretary includes promotion of National and foreign commerce (business), the promotion of national economic growth, job creation, improved living conditions, technological competitiveness, and sustainable development.

Oh god damnit!  I get that estimates are hard but come on... That's a big fuck up.  How are they that wrong?
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #282 on: August 24, 2024, 08:16:23 PM »


KAMALA HARRIS: “I will always stand up for Israel’s right to exist and I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend itself.”

https://x.com/HotSpotHotSpot/status/1826834184628769243

Well at least Israel can continue to defend itself. Although we are stretching definitions on what "defense" means.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #283 on: August 24, 2024, 08:18:24 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on August 22, 2024, 08:54:08 AM
I'm not an economist but the fact that I've never seen both parties move so fast to pass something this big tells me that the cost of not passing it would have been far greater.

It's true, like that war on terror. That was probably the last time both parties moved so fast to pass something. You always know it's a good idea when both parties enthusiasticly support something.

Right?
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #284 on: August 25, 2024, 07:44:09 AM »
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Quote from: Crouton on August 22, 2024, 08:54:08 AM
I'm not an economist but the fact that I've never seen both parties move so fast to pass something this big tells me that the cost of not passing it would have been far greater.

It's true, like that war on terror. That was probably the last time both parties moved so fast to pass something. You always know it's a good idea when both parties enthusiasticly support something.

Right?

I guess it depends on if you believe 911 was an inside job.  But that's a whole other can of worms.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #285 on: August 25, 2024, 11:10:56 AM »
Isn't it time that we had a normal president again?
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #286 on: August 25, 2024, 07:54:05 PM »
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Quote from: disputeone on August 24, 2024, 08:18:24 PM
Quote from: Crouton on August 22, 2024, 08:54:08 AM
I'm not an economist but the fact that I've never seen both parties move so fast to pass something this big tells me that the cost of not passing it would have been far greater.

It's true, like that war on terror. That was probably the last time both parties moved so fast to pass something. You always know it's a good idea when both parties enthusiasticly support something.

Right?

I guess it depends on if you believe 911 was an inside job.  But that's a whole other can of worms.

Or if you believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which was the justification for the war in Iraq, but let's not get into that.

It's Iran making the WMDs now, isn't that right Crouton?

Everyone knows America never lies or uses false flag attacks to start wars.

Oh wait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Nevermind.
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« Reply #287 on: August 25, 2024, 08:15:47 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 25, 2024, 07:54:05 PM
Everyone knows America never lies or uses false flag attacks to start wars.

Oh wait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Nevermind.
When did the US go to war with Cuba? ???
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« Reply #288 on: August 25, 2024, 08:16:53 PM »
Read it again.

"Everyone knows America never lies or uses false flag attacks to start wars."

You're right Markjo.
I was agreeing with you and Crouton.
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« Reply #289 on: August 25, 2024, 11:50:47 PM »
God has a sense of humour.

Was this a terrorist attack by Ukraine against Russia?
Crouton?
Or do you think it was a Russian false flag?
https://x.com/BNONews/status/1827915864332456211
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #290 on: August 26, 2024, 08:18:16 AM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 25, 2024, 07:54:05 PM
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Quote from: disputeone on August 24, 2024, 08:18:24 PM
Quote from: Crouton on August 22, 2024, 08:54:08 AM
I'm not an economist but the fact that I've never seen both parties move so fast to pass something this big tells me that the cost of not passing it would have been far greater.

It's true, like that war on terror. That was probably the last time both parties moved so fast to pass something. You always know it's a good idea when both parties enthusiasticly support something.

Right?

I guess it depends on if you believe 911 was an inside job.  But that's a whole other can of worms.

Or if you believe Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which was the justification for the war in Iraq, but let's not get into that.

It's Iran making the WMDs now, isn't that right Crouton?

Everyone knows America never lies or uses false flag attacks to start wars.

Oh wait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Nevermind.

Like I said, can of worms.
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« Reply #291 on: August 26, 2024, 07:12:35 PM »
Sure.

What do you think about this?

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Was this a terrorist attack by Ukraine against Russia?
Crouton?
Or do you think it was a Russian false flag?
https://x.com/BNONews/status/1827915864332456211
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« Reply #292 on: August 26, 2024, 08:49:01 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 26, 2024, 07:12:35 PM
Sure.

What do you think about this?

Quote from: disputeone on August 25, 2024, 11:50:47 PM
Was this a terrorist attack by Ukraine against Russia?
Crouton?
Or do you think it was a Russian false flag?
https://x.com/BNONews/status/1827915864332456211

I saw this.  A very large drone attack on targets in Russia.  From what I hear this drone went off course due to Russian EW.

Ukraine doesn't have ammunition to spare on terrorist attacks.  I suppose it's possible that Ukraine blew up a bunch of military targets but decided to blow up a residential building just for "fun".  Seems unlikely though.
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« Reply #293 on: August 26, 2024, 08:57:11 PM »
Russia is blaming Ukraine.
You think it was a false flag then.

Thanks.

Edit because I'm busy and I know you'll want to play word games.
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A false flag operation is an act committed with the intent of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on another party.

The act was the use of Russian EW that caused the drone to crash into a civilian building. Russia is disguising their responsibility and blaming Ukraine. Therefore by definition it was a Russian false flag.

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« Reply #294 on: August 26, 2024, 09:11:18 PM »
Also I'm a little confused could you clear this up for me?

When the US blamed and then invaded Afghanistan after 19 hijackers crashed planes into US civilian targets, officially 15 of which being Saudi Nationals living in the United States.

Would you say that blaming (and then invading) Afghanistan was an act committed with the intention of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on another party?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58533538

Questions for later.
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« Reply #295 on: August 26, 2024, 09:46:36 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 26, 2024, 09:11:18 PM
Also I'm a little confused could you clear this up for me?

When the US blamed and then invaded Afghanistan after 19 hijackers crashed planes into US civilian targets, officially 15 of which being Saudi Nationals living in the United States.

Would you say that blaming (and then invading) Afghanistan was an act committed with the intention of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on another party?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58533538

Questions for later.

It's my understanding that these were al qaeda sleeper cells acting under the order of Bin Laden.

I think I read somewhere they they threatened to kill their families if they didn't carry out their mission.
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« Reply #296 on: August 26, 2024, 10:51:09 PM »
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It's my understanding that these were al qaeda sleeper cells acting under the order of Bin Laden.

Oh right the guy who was armed, trained and funded by the CIA during Operation Cyclone. Right, now I get why the US invaded Afghanistan in response.

Wait a minute...

What's 630 million in 1987 dollars?
Oh, just under two billion dollars.
Well at least the CIA succeeded in protecting American interests.

WAIT A MINUTE!!!
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« Reply #297 on: August 27, 2024, 01:32:40 AM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 26, 2024, 10:51:09 PM
Quote from: Crouton on August 26, 2024, 09:46:36 PM
It's my understanding that these were al qaeda sleeper cells acting under the order of Bin Laden.

Oh right the guy who was armed, trained and funded by the CIA during Operation Cyclone. Right, now I get why the US invaded Afghanistan in response.

Wait a minute...

What's 630 million in 1987 dollars?
Oh, just under two billion dollars.
Well at least the CIA succeeded in protecting American interests.

WAIT A MINUTE!!!

Yep.  The cold war fucked up the entire middle East.  Because of America
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #298 on: August 27, 2024, 06:24:07 AM »
The media are all trying to get Harris to sit down for an interview. She might choose Gayle King, I'm sure Gayle will ask her the tough questions!
 https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2024/08/27/inside-harris-big-interview-decision-00176402
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #299 on: August 27, 2024, 12:53:22 PM »
She's gonna build the wall!

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/27/kamala-harris-flip-flops-border-wall

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If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the wall along the southern border — a project she once opposed and called "un-American" during the Trump administration.

She should start selling hats, blue hats, that say Make America Great Again.

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