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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #150 on: August 09, 2024, 12:46:47 PM »
She's had years! She tried to run for president once already.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #151 on: August 09, 2024, 12:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 09, 2024, 12:46:47 PM
She's had years! She tried to run for president once already.
Are you honestly trying to argue that her policies shouldn't be different on a different campaign run? Especially after a failed one?!

Its not like she's going to open up word and copy paste them. A lot more goes into it than I think you are realizing. They have to consider things like the political environment, previous campaigns lessons, party dynamics of the time, her own self evolving and changing as we all do, and the target audience she needs to win over and how they are today.

Let alone any numbers games that have to be done.

Wow. Not everyone can run on the "just insult whomever is on the other podium" policy ticket. Honestly I'd be upset if she didn't do her due diligence on policy positions. Its her constituents the policies should be based off of, not her. And they change.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #152 on: August 09, 2024, 01:07:46 PM »
She didn't run on "just insult whomever is on the other podium" though. I don't know what you are talking about. She had some very good ideas before, one of them was "medicare for all". When she is elected (and I believe she will be) her constituents will be the entire United States. Whether they voted for her or not.

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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #153 on: August 09, 2024, 01:16:40 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 09, 2024, 01:07:46 PM
She didn't run on "just insult whomever is on the other podium" though. I don't know what you are talking about.
Trump. I'm obviously talking about Trump there, not "Laffin' Kamala" or "Sleepy Joe" or "Little Marco" or "Crazy Bernie" or "Little Ben" or "Beijing Biden" or "Low Energy Jeb" or "Coco Chow" or "Crooked Hillary" or "Ron DeSanctimonious" or "Broken Old Crow" or "Governor Newscum" or "Wacky Jacky" or "Deranged Jack Smith" or any of the thousands others.

Did you read "not everyone can run on x" and read it to mean the person in question (Kamala) ran on that?

John runs the flat earth society considering all the facts. Not everyone can believe the ridiculous idea the earth is round.

See how that works?

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She had some very good ideas before, one of them was "medicare for all". When she is elected (and I believe she will be) her constituents will be the entire United States. Whether they voted for her or not.
Yes, she clearly has a running start - I don't disagree - but 3 weeks is within a reasonable time-frame when you are also on the campaign trail etc.

I share your impatience however to a reasonable degree.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #154 on: August 09, 2024, 02:25:19 PM »
Quote from: Space Cowgirl on August 09, 2024, 12:28:55 PM
They've been hiding Biden's decline for at least a year. She should have been working on this already.

Some bridges can only be crossed when you get to them.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #155 on: August 09, 2024, 03:17:30 PM »
They should have pushed grandpa off the bridge before the primaries!
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #156 on: August 09, 2024, 06:41:18 PM »
They should have ran Tulsi Gabbard.

If they could get Biden over the line they could have got Tulsi over the line.

Kamala is about the least likeable person in politics today and the media is confident they can secure a win for her.

Tulsi is also mixed race and female, but for whatever reason, the media hated her. Maybe because she was honest.

Or Candace Owens, let's have Candace Owens run instead of Trump. I love Candace.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #157 on: August 09, 2024, 06:50:00 PM »
Tulsi is about as honest as sinema.

Owens is garbage.



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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #158 on: August 09, 2024, 07:11:57 PM »
Tulsi also swings on the other side of the fence now.

Not lesbian. You know what I mean.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #159 on: August 09, 2024, 07:15:46 PM »
Says the only guy aside from John Bolton who still thinks the war on Terror was justified.

I don't think so, I just think Tulsi is honest and non partisan. Which you hate, more than you will ever hate a right wing politician like John Bolton.

At least your propaganda works on people as intelligent as Kabool.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #160 on: August 09, 2024, 09:08:57 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 09, 2024, 07:15:46 PM
Says the only guy aside from John Bolton who still thinks the war on Terror was justified.

I don't think so, I just think Tulsi is honest and non partisan. Which you hate, more than you will ever hate a right wing politician like John Bolton.

At least your propaganda works on people as intelligent as Kabool.

Tulsi Gabbard is a pundit at Fox News.  She strongly supports the war on terror and Israel's war on its neighbors.  If it were up to her Gaza would be a glass parking lot and we would be at war with Iran.

Just to be clear these are bad things to you right?
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #161 on: August 09, 2024, 11:14:27 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on August 09, 2024, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: disputeone on August 09, 2024, 07:15:46 PM
Says the only guy aside from John Bolton who still thinks the war on Terror was justified.

I don't think so, I just think Tulsi is honest and non partisan. Which you hate, more than you will ever hate a right wing politician like John Bolton.

At least your propaganda works on people as intelligent as Kabool.

Tulsi Gabbard is a pundit at Fox News.  She strongly supports the war on terror

No she doesn't.

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During Tulsi Gabbard's tenure as a congresswoman and presidential candidate, she placed much emphasis on her foreign policy views and regarded them as inseparable from her domestic policy views. She criticizes what she terms the "neoliberal/neoconservative war machine", which pushes for US involvement in "wasteful foreign wars". She has said that the money spent on war should be redirected to serve health care, infrastructure, and other domestic priorities.

In a 2018 interview with The Intercept, Gabbard said U.S. efforts at regime change "have ended up worse off for the people of those countries and have been counterproductive to the interests of the American people." The Intercept described her as "an outspoken critic of U.S. involvement in the Middle East from the disastrous Iraq War to NATO’s 2011 intervention in Libya that followed Arab Spring protests against the brutal regime of Moammar Gadhafi."[28] She has also called for an end to the nearly two-decades-long U.S. war in Afghanistan.[48] In her February 2, 2019 campaign launch, Gabbard called on everyone to take a stand against what she described as the "neolibs and neocons" from both parties promoting regime change.[44]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard

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She strongly supports Israel's war on its neighbors.

So do you.
At least she admits it.
I like honest people, we can have honest disagreements it's fine. I also don't particularly care what Israel does in the middle east as long as we aren't funding it. Israel is essentially hiding behind the US like a kid hiding behind his older brother starting fights with people. Even you've seemed to notice that.

Quote from: Crouton on August 09, 2024, 09:08:57 PM
If it were up to her Gaza would be a glass parking lot and we would be at war with Iran.

No.

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In May 2019 Gabbard warned about the danger, costs, and consequences of a potential war with Iran and criticized the Trump administration for elevating tensions.[101][102][103] She said it would be illegal for the Trump administration to take action against Iran relying on a 2001 law that authorized the use of U.S. Armed Forces against those responsible for the September 11 attacks and any "associated forces".[104]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard

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Liars.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #162 on: August 10, 2024, 01:19:20 AM »
Tsi is moooooooooost definitely partisan.

If her claim is the dems are dinos or whatever shit nonsense then yes! Shes most deifibitelys partisan boogieman bullshit.

She cant pick a specific claim and defend it.

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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #163 on: August 10, 2024, 01:39:29 AM »
Most deifibitely.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #164 on: August 10, 2024, 06:42:09 AM »
I like Tulsi Gabbard, I don't care where she works. Everyone is "partisan".

Anyway, what is Kamala Harris's position on the war in Gaza?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/08/politics/harris-gaza-conflict-campaign-trail/index.html

 
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Layla Elabed and Abbas Alawieh, the co-founders of the group, expressed to Harris and Walz their concerns about the US supplying weapons to Israel and the plight of Palestinian civilians in Gaza, according to a statement from the group.

“The VP was receptive. I thanked her for the attention her staff is giving to our request for a meeting about an arms embargo. She thanked me for being there and for my work,” Alawieh, who is an “uncommitted” delegate to the Democratic National Convention, told CNN. “It feels fruitful; we’re hopeful that she will engage substantively with our request for an arms embargo that stops sending bombs to kill people we love.”

While the group is calling for a meeting, a source familiar with the conversation said Harris did not express openness to an arms embargo when she spoke with the group’s leaders on Wednesday.

“@VP has been clear: she will always ensure Israel is able to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups,” Harris’ national security adviser Phil Gordon posted on X Thursday. “She does not support an arms embargo on Israel. She will continue to work to protect civilians in Gaza and to uphold international humanitarian law.”

A Harris campaign spokesperson said in the brief encounter that the vice president “reaffirmed that her campaign will continue to engage” with Arab, Muslim, and Palestinian community members about the war in Gaza.

“The Vice President has been clear: she will always work to ensure Israel is able to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups,” the spokesperson said. “The Vice President is focused on securing the ceasefire and hostage deal currently on the table.”

Does Harris strongly support the war on terror?
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #165 on: August 10, 2024, 07:57:36 AM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 09, 2024, 11:14:27 PM
Quote from: Crouton on August 09, 2024, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: disputeone on August 09, 2024, 07:15:46 PM
Says the only guy aside from John Bolton who still thinks the war on Terror was justified.

I don't think so, I just think Tulsi is honest and non partisan. Which you hate, more than you will ever hate a right wing politician like John Bolton.

At least your propaganda works on people as intelligent as Kabool.

Tulsi Gabbard is a pundit at Fox News.  She strongly supports the war on terror

No she doesn't.

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During Tulsi Gabbard's tenure as a congresswoman and presidential candidate, she placed much emphasis on her foreign policy views and regarded them as inseparable from her domestic policy views. She criticizes what she terms the "neoliberal/neoconservative war machine", which pushes for US involvement in "wasteful foreign wars". She has said that the money spent on war should be redirected to serve health care, infrastructure, and other domestic priorities.

In a 2018 interview with The Intercept, Gabbard said U.S. efforts at regime change "have ended up worse off for the people of those countries and have been counterproductive to the interests of the American people." The Intercept described her as "an outspoken critic of U.S. involvement in the Middle East from the disastrous Iraq War to NATO’s 2011 intervention in Libya that followed Arab Spring protests against the brutal regime of Moammar Gadhafi."[28] She has also called for an end to the nearly two-decades-long U.S. war in Afghanistan.[48] In her February 2, 2019 campaign launch, Gabbard called on everyone to take a stand against what she described as the "neolibs and neocons" from both parties promoting regime change.[44]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard

Quote from: Crouton on August 09, 2024, 09:08:57 PM
She strongly supports Israel's war on its neighbors.

So do you.
At least she admits it.
I like honest people, we can have honest disagreements it's fine. I also don't particularly care what Israel does in the middle east as long as we aren't funding it. Israel is essentially hiding behind the US like a kid hiding behind his older brother starting fights with people. Even you've seemed to notice that.

Quote from: Crouton on August 09, 2024, 09:08:57 PM
If it were up to her Gaza would be a glass parking lot and we would be at war with Iran.

No.

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In May 2019 Gabbard warned about the danger, costs, and consequences of a potential war with Iran and criticized the Trump administration for elevating tensions.[101][102][103] She said it would be illegal for the Trump administration to take action against Iran relying on a 2001 law that authorized the use of U.S. Armed Forces against those responsible for the September 11 attacks and any "associated forces".[104]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard

You know what I don't like Crouton?
Liars.




And to clarify my position on Israel, in the past I've opposed it.  It seemed like there was convincing evidence that the IDF is using a level of force far beyond what's necessary for self defense.

But I've been reading the opinions of yourself, pez and wise.  And I've had to do some deep thinking.  If the three of you, who have the worst understanding of geopolitics I've ever seen, believe that Israel is in the wrong here, well I'm forced to change my opinion.  I am fully on board the Zionism train.  Got my jew hat and I'm ready to settle in the West Bank.

Following this change while I still support Harris I'm disappointed in her statements hinting at moderating support for my new homeland.  I disagree with some of Gabbard's policies I do appreciate her looking over any war crimes my people may commit in the pursuit of Greater Israel.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #166 on: August 10, 2024, 10:09:14 AM »
Quote from: Crouton on August 09, 2024, 09:17:23 AM
I don't know.  Trump can't seem to figure out her ethnicity.
Kamala's ethnicity and Trump's rhetoric are diametrically opposed. The American people are heading towards a very sharp bend. Whichever side wins, it seems certain that the other side will declare independence, and the danger of civil war is reminiscent of a new north-south war. In fact, what the world needs is The thing is that the USA will undergone such a transformation. What I mean is that dividing the USA into two without war will ensure the restoration of the balance of powers that has disappeared in the world.

In such a situation, republicans and democrats try to spread their ideas abroad as separate countries. As a result, political formations close to republicans and democrats will emerged in Russia and China. In the medium term, these two countries will be divided into two, like the USA.

In summary, dividing the USA into two will eliminate its enemies after a while. What a perfect plan.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #167 on: August 10, 2024, 06:29:37 PM »
Quote from: Crouton on August 10, 2024, 07:57:36 AM
Got my jew hat

You went to a Jewish school?
They are messianic Jews.
Barbara and Jim Matza.

https://www.netministries.org/churches/ch19684

Quote from: disputeone on December 20, 2022, 12:40:33 AM
https://www.officialusa.com/names/Barbara-Matza/
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Barbara celebrated 79th birthday on September 30. Barbara now resides at 8233 Fawn Heather Crt, Las Vegas, NV 89149-4515. There are two companies, Stand America Foundation, A Nonprofit Corporation and El Shaddai Ministries, registered to this address. James Matz and James H Matza are linked with this address. There’s one phone number listed for Barbara: (702) 655-5469 (Central Tel Co). Various documents link the phone number (702) 655-5469 to different owners — James Matz, James H Matza

James is obviously Jim.

She actually seems pretty based.
https://www.standamerica.us/

Also very much Jewish, which is obviously fine. You'd have to go a long way to find a school for messianic Jews, Crouton.
https://www.esm.us/

It's a pity, we should have more in common. I don't like liars.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #168 on: August 10, 2024, 06:33:51 PM »
Quote from: disputeone on August 10, 2024, 06:29:37 PM
Quote from: Crouton on August 10, 2024, 07:57:36 AM
Got my jew hat

You went to a Jewish school?
They are messianic Jews.
Barbara and Jim Matza.

https://www.netministries.org/churches/ch19684

Quote from: disputeone on December 20, 2022, 12:40:33 AM
https://www.officialusa.com/names/Barbara-Matza/
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Barbara celebrated 79th birthday on September 30. Barbara now resides at 8233 Fawn Heather Crt, Las Vegas, NV 89149-4515. There are two companies, Stand America Foundation, A Nonprofit Corporation and El Shaddai Ministries, registered to this address. James Matz and James H Matza are linked with this address. There’s one phone number listed for Barbara: (702) 655-5469 (Central Tel Co). Various documents link the phone number (702) 655-5469 to different owners — James Matz, James H Matza

James is obviously Jim.

She actually seems pretty based.
https://www.standamerica.us/

Also very much Jewish, which is obviously fine. You'd have to go a long way to find a school for messianic Jews, Crouton.
https://www.esm.us/

It's a pity, we should have more in common. I don't like liars.

Silence!  No discussions during the Shabbat.

I think.  I'm going to have to google this.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #169 on: August 10, 2024, 06:35:39 PM »
You don't remember your school?
An elephant never forgets.

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I grew up in Henderson in a school call Echoes of Faith Christian Academy.

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« Reply #170 on: August 10, 2024, 11:08:36 PM »
I am a born again Jew.  Saved by the grace of Jesus Christ.

I forgive your blood libel, goyum!
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« Reply #171 on: August 10, 2024, 11:21:22 PM »
Sure, why not.

If you're saved by Jesus you're a Christian.
I don't make a distinction beyond that.
Are you a Christian Crouton?
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« Reply #172 on: August 11, 2024, 11:43:48 AM »
I just told you I'm a born again Jew, you anti-semite!
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« Reply #173 on: August 11, 2024, 11:58:23 AM »
Jesus was a Jew.  Thus, praising Jesus is a very Jewish thing to do.
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« Reply #174 on: August 11, 2024, 04:14:16 PM »
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #175 on: August 11, 2024, 09:48:45 PM »
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I just told you I'm a born again Jew, you anti-semite!

Is this really your best?
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« Reply #176 on: August 11, 2024, 10:09:46 PM »
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Quote from: Crouton on August 11, 2024, 11:43:48 AM
I just told you I'm a born again Jew, you anti-semite!

Is this really your best?

Only satan can judge me.
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« Reply #177 on: August 11, 2024, 11:08:26 PM »
He's a liar, Crouton.
Jesus can forgive you. He forgave me, He can forgive you too. It's never too late I promise. I want what's best for you.

There's nothing Jesus can't fix.
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« Reply #178 on: August 12, 2024, 12:36:37 AM »

Does he do call outs? Next doors drain keeps blocking and she reckons she can't afford Dyna-rod.
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Re: Why Do You Support Kamala Harris?
« Reply #179 on: August 12, 2024, 12:54:43 AM »
Why is Jesus expected to forgive any of us but not any of us to do him?

When I look at the shitty place the Jesuits have brought the world to, I feel like Jesus must want something like forgiveness from us.
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Quote from: wise on July 23, 2019, 12:33:16 PM
He (somebody) is a troll homo playing role of girl.

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