Why care if the earth is flat?

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #180 on: October 19, 2024, 01:03:05 AM »
They used to say rockets had to fly over the ocean after a few minutes, fly over protection zones we can’t go into, it’s too dangerous for us to go there….
No, they say they go into orbit.

But now, after we’ve developed some rockets that hit the Firmament, they’ve tried to pull them off the market
Where?
Yet again you just spout baseless crap.

That appears to be all you can do, just appeal to fantasy after fantasy.

Look at the original videos of a rocket flying up, until it suddenly stopped flying up, and spun around there, showing brief glimpses of Earth below and so on.
Do you mean this one:

The one that expended it's fuel and then used a Yo-Yo despin mechanism to slow down the spin, yet continued going upwards?
Which in no way hit any firmament?

If it was actually a rocket hitting a firmament, you would expect something more like this:


I’m not sure how many videos were done, but at least two or three I saw back then.

Only one of them is still online, it seems.
Yet you provide none.
Yet again, you just spout pure BS.

They’re not online anymore, for some reason…just one of them, but edited with ‘space’ scenes in it now!!
Perhaps because they never were and you are making shit up as usual?

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #181 on: October 19, 2024, 02:03:03 AM »
The Firmament has become their biggest problem, the one thing we can expose as the truth.

Making up excuses for everything else is still possible, sort of, anyway.

Showing every small detail of stars, their motion, and proving that Saturn doesn’t have multiple distinct rings, will  be forever excused by some bs, like yours.

There is abundant proof for these things, but we can’t go to a star or Saturn, but we can hit the Firmament with rockets, and prove it exists beyond any doubt.

I think that’s what God intended, for us to see it exists, beyond any doubt.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #182 on: October 19, 2024, 03:22:13 AM »
The Firmament has become their biggest problem
Your imagination is not their problem.
You have literally no evidence at all for this magic dome of yours.
And there is plenty of evidence showing crafts going to space.

the one thing we can expose as the truth.
Yet you apparently still choose not to.

Showing every small detail of stars
You mean your baseless claim from another thread?

There is abundant proof for these things
Then why do you refuse to provide any and instead demand other people provide evidence to show you are wrong?

I think that’s what God intended, for us to see it exists, beyond any doubt.
You mean your imaginary fiend?
Made up by people wanting to control others?

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #183 on: October 20, 2024, 12:10:58 AM »
These fiends who create false enemies to start bloody and evil wars, you mean?

Do you believe anyone wants to kill someone they’ve never seen before, unless they were told that they want to kill you because ‘they hate your freedoms’?

They already control the world, already have fooled millions of people into their deaths, that is the most obvious example of their control of the world.

That is not what they really want, that was a step towards their ultimate goal.

They want us to worship them as gods. It’s hard for people to understand who would want to be a false god, who would create bloody wars to kill millions of people for any reason.

Again, it’s not easy to see that happening.

The alien scenario I described is easily possible, that’s the problem.

Everything fits the story, that much I know is true, sadly

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #184 on: October 20, 2024, 02:08:23 AM »
These fiends who create false enemies to start bloody and evil wars, you mean?
You mean your priests and prophets?

Do you believe anyone wants to kill someone they’ve never seen before, unless they were told that they want to kill you because ‘they hate your freedoms’?
Or because their imaginary fiend told them to. Like what happened in the hate filled book you worship.

They want us to worship them as gods. It’s hard for people to understand who would want to be a false god
It isn't hard at all for anyone with a brain that wants to use it.
But yes, your religious leaders want you to think their commands are coming from a god.

Again, it’s not easy to see that happening.
Again, it is really easy to see it happening.
Look at all the terrorists willing to kill countless innocent people and themselves because they think they are doing gods work.

So it is very easy to see it happening, because it doesn't require any speculation at all. They are doing it.
Meanwhile your alien scenario is delusional BS.

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #185 on: October 20, 2024, 03:19:37 AM »
These fiends who create false enemies to start bloody and evil wars, you mean?
You mean your priests and prophets?

Do you believe anyone wants to kill someone they’ve never seen before, unless they were told that they want to kill you because ‘they hate your freedoms’?
Or because their imaginary fiend told them to. Like what happened in the hate filled book you worship.

They want us to worship them as gods. It’s hard for people to understand who would want to be a false god
It isn't hard at all for anyone with a brain that wants to use it.
But yes, your religious leaders want you to think their commands are coming from a god.

Again, it’s not easy to see that happening.
Again, it is really easy to see it happening.
Look at all the terrorists willing to kill countless innocent people and themselves because they think they are doing gods work.

So it is very easy to see it happening, because it doesn't require any speculation at all. They are doing it.
Meanwhile your alien scenario is delusional BS.

Why couldn’t it take place?

Be specific here..




Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #186 on: October 20, 2024, 03:34:02 AM »
Religion is just another tool used to create wars, many others have been used as well.

‘Hating our freedoms’ is a recent one. A ‘pre-emotive attack’ before they attack us is another one.

False flag operations start wars, too.


They’re all used to start wars, bomb a city, and so on.

And they’re all planned by those in control, or those above in control with puppet leaders.

Ugly indeed

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #187 on: October 20, 2024, 03:45:23 AM »
lWho would have ever believed their 9/11 story was possible?

Anything can seem ludicrous until it really happens, and it will be just as ludicrous a story, but people will believe it anyway, just by telling us it was true.

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #188 on: October 20, 2024, 10:18:30 AM »
Tell us agaun about you god?

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #189 on: October 20, 2024, 11:02:45 AM »
There is abundant proof for these things, but we can’t go to a star or Saturn, but we can hit the Firmament with rockets, and prove it exists beyond any doubt.
What are you talking about?  Of course we aren't going to a star anytime soon, but there have already been three flybys of Saturn and one orbiter that included a lander that made it to the surface of one of the moons.  I would contend that the firmament lies at edge of the universe rather than the edge of the atmosphere.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_of_Saturn
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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #190 on: October 20, 2024, 12:40:53 PM »
Why couldn’t it take place?
Or why not focus on the more pressing issue?
You are appealing to wild speculation with no basis.
At the same time you are ignoring the equivalent already happening.
Why? Because you have drunk the cool aid and fully support that equivalent.

Religion is just another tool used to create wars, many others have been used as well.
And yet you have fallen for it hook line and sinker.
Possibly so much so that you will claim your religion isn't actually a religion.

lWho would have ever believed their 9/11 story was possible?
Any sane person.
But I guess that rules you out.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #191 on: October 20, 2024, 02:01:53 PM »
Why should we should care if the earth is flat?  Because science illiteracy and increasing mistrust of science is not the direction that we should want society to go.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #192 on: October 22, 2024, 05:23:51 PM »
Religion is just another tool used to create wars, many others have been used as well.

‘Hating our freedoms’ is a recent one. A ‘pre-emotive attack’ before they attack us is another one.

False flag operations start wars, too.


They’re all used to start wars, bomb a city, and so on.

And they’re all planned by those in control, or those above in control with puppet leaders.

Ugly indeed

Will you ever get down from your conspiracy fuelled high horse? You are such a conspiratard!

Tell us a conspiracy theory you haven't bought into, lock, stock, and barrel?

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #193 on: October 22, 2024, 05:31:37 PM »
The Firmament has become their biggest problem, the one thing we can expose as the truth.

Making up excuses for everything else is still possible, sort of, anyway.

Showing every small detail of stars, their motion, and proving that Saturn doesn’t have multiple distinct rings, will  be forever excused by some bs, like yours.

There is abundant proof for these things, but we can’t go to a star or Saturn, but we can hit the Firmament with rockets, and prove it exists beyond any doubt.

I think that’s what God intended, for us to see it exists, beyond any doubt.

You have no proof any rocket has ever exploded against the side of your ludicrous firmament fantasy. You have zero proof any astronomer was ever wrong in their observations of Saturn and her rings, let alone lied.

God intended for you to use that brain he gave you. When are you going to start using it?

Beyond any doubt, all your flat earth ideas are true balonium.

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #194 on: October 25, 2024, 10:32:39 PM »
Using one’s own brain is by observing what is real or not real, without being told by others what is real or not real, instead of your own brain and reasoning to know.

When I have seen their claims of Saturn, seeing five distinct belts on it, seeing there edges, seeing one that’s partly in parallel, seeing the other side of that edge as not parallel, but seeing a distinct feature on it, seeing it fixed at one position on Saturn, seeing the same feature had moved to another position much later on, and seeing its position moving at a steady rate of time….

That’s when my own brain told me to look at all the evidence of Saturns appearance in videos, all of them, and I did.

One who doesn’t use their own brain will believe their claim as true, without looking at the evidence to know if it IS true or not true.

Try using your own brain, it’s a good thing.



Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #195 on: October 26, 2024, 12:30:06 AM »
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No idea, but don't forget that cameras can rotate.

This view isn’t from any rotation of a camera on the ground.

We can’t get that view from the surface, look at the angle of view…

It’s edited, turned frames, cut out in parts, maybe. And on purpose, why do all that for no reason?

You didn’t even notice it, that’s weird, too. It’s so obviously not  possible to get this shot from the ground. From a lot of editing a video from ground, yes, but why?

They always cut and edit and paste clips together, it’s to confuse the viewers on what is going on or isn’t real.

So after all that bs, they show us it is in ‘space’, adding a black scene into these videos at the end of the clips!

If you believe the skies are blue, from an effect or reaction of chemicals acting on the air, which is clear and colourless, the blue would be low to the surface, where most air is present. But it’s not at all blue, and not seen anywhere higher up in air, which has less air, than lower to the surface.

That claim is complete bs, as usual

They claim that air interacts with something, or things, which cause the air to become blue…

Another lie, proven by the clear air we see clear anywhere in the skies.

Show me where the air is blue, it’s already proven as clear up to 50000 feet above the surface, so the blue is not within air, most is clear by just that fact alone.

Just keep on saying the sky is blue, that air looks blue, the facts prove you wrong, what we have seen proves you wrong, and you can say this bs all you want, it’s still just bs.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #196 on: October 26, 2024, 01:22:01 PM »
Using one’s own brain is by observing what is real or not real, without being told by others what is real or not real, instead of your own brain and reasoning to know.
And doing that we see Earth is round, and you are spouting BS.

When I have seen their claims of Saturn
Wrong thread.

One who doesn’t use their own brain will believe their claim as true, without looking at the evidence to know if it IS true or not true.
As you have done with the FE claims.

Try using your own brain, it’s a good thing.
I do, which is why I know you are spouting pure BS.


This view isn’t from any rotation of a camera on the ground.
We can’t get that view from the surface, look at the angle of view…
So you don't understand rotation either.

If you believe the skies are blue, from an effect or reaction of chemicals acting on the air
Not a reaction a simple physical effect which is quite well documented.

the blue would be low to the surface, where most air is present.
No, the blue is seen from looking through a large amount of atmosphere.

And it is.
We see it in long distance photos, and if you bother to look carefully in a plane.
But if you aren't trying to look for the tiny blue tint, you wont notice it.

If you like, here is an example from another thread:


But it’s not at all blue, and not seen anywhere higher up in air, which has less air, than lower to the surface.
That claim is complete bs, as usual
Yes, your claim is complete BS, as usual.

Another lie, proven by the clear air we see clear anywhere in the skies.
Where is this magical proof of yours?
Just keep on saying the sky is blue, that air looks blue, the facts prove you wrong, what we have seen proves you wrong, and you can say this bs all you want, it’s still just bs.
I will continue to say you are spouting BS.
You yet again claim to have magical proof, yet you don't provide it.
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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #197 on: October 27, 2024, 12:18:12 AM »
Are you saying that when looking down to Earth from a plane, it looks blue?

Nothing is seen as blue, that is absolute fact. Show me it’s blue at all, from the plane to the surface, then…

The blue of the Firmament covers the Earth, that’s why it’s blue in all directions above the surface. 

Thats why I’ve asked you to show the blue from above the surface downward, through to the surface of Earth.

That is 40000 feet through most of the air above Earth. There is far far less air above that point.

All the air is clear below us, all the blue is still seen high above us.

The evidence would indicate that the air is not blue coloured, most is already proven as clear, never seen blue from any altitude above Earth.

Even your fake ball Earth images don’t show any blue, although now a blue lining is added into the fakes.

Why would a blue lining be there, but nothing blue over the surface looking downward to Earth?

We’d see blue over the whole surface, not just a lining around the edge of ball Earth.

If that lining was the highest of blue, it would all be lower than their ‘rockets’ are. 

The sky is not at all blue, the waters of the Firmament are blue, and we know that water looks blue in sunlight, and no made up bs claim is needed to explain why it’s blue.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #198 on: October 27, 2024, 01:22:51 PM »
Are you saying that when looking down to Earth from a plane, it looks blue?
Nothing is seen as blue, that is absolute fact. Show me it’s blue at all, from the plane to the surface, then…
You sure do love ignoring reality don't you?
I provided a video that was used in a different thread, showing how objects on Earth's surface can appear more blue through large amounts of atmosphere.

If you need a plane, here:

You can see at the 38 minute mark, they are flying over land, with a clear bluish tinge to it.

If you want even more, here is the Go Fast rocket launch many lying scum used to try to claim a rocket hits a firmament:


When it is up nice and high, you can take a look at a shadow, and what do you see there? This (at 1:10):

The shadow appears blue. That is because you are seeing it through the atmosphere.

The blue from the sun scattering through the atmosphere isn't that bright.
If there is other light going through it more directly, it will typically outshine the blue.
So it can be hard to see, especially if the white balance is allowed to auto adjust.

The blue of the Firmament covers the Earth
You mean the thing you have absolutely no evidence for?

All the air is clear below us, all the blue is still seen high above us.
Again, where is your photographic evidence of hits?

The evidence would indicate that the air is not blue coloured
What evidence?
Yet again, you just claim pure BS with no evidence at all, and pretend that your claim is all you need as evidence.

Even your fake ball Earth images
I don't care about your fakes.
I'll stick to real images.
Images where the issues above can make it hard to see if it is blue or not.

We’d see blue over the whole surface, not just a lining around the edge of ball Earth.
Why don't you draw just what you think we would see?

we know that water looks blue in sunlight
No we don't.
I can take a glass of water and hold it up to the light and it appears clear.

Why not try to be honest for once? Water that is reflecting the sky when the sky appears blue appears blue.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #199 on: November 02, 2024, 05:50:14 PM »
Are you saying that when looking down to Earth from a plane, it looks blue?

Nothing is seen as blue, that is absolute fact. Show me it’s blue at all, from the plane to the surface, then…
Do you mean like the 2/3 of the earth's surface that's water?
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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #200 on: November 02, 2024, 08:58:33 PM »
Are you saying that when looking down to Earth from a plane, it looks blue?
Nothing is seen as blue, that is absolute fact. Show me it’s blue at all, from the plane to the surface, then…
You sure do love ignoring reality don't you?
I provided a video that was used in a different thread, showing how objects on Earth's surface can appear more blue through large amounts of atmosphere.

If you need a plane, here:

You can see at the 38 minute mark, they are flying over land, with a clear bluish tinge to it.

If you want even more, here is the Go Fast rocket launch many lying scum used to try to claim a rocket hits a firmament:


When it is up nice and high, you can take a look at a shadow, and what do you see there? This (at 1:10):

The shadow appears blue. That is because you are seeing it through the atmosphere.

The blue from the sun scattering through the atmosphere isn't that bright.
If there is other light going through it more directly, it will typically outshine the blue.
So it can be hard to see, especially if the white balance is allowed to auto adjust.

The blue of the Firmament covers the Earth
You mean the thing you have absolutely no evidence for?

All the air is clear below us, all the blue is still seen high above us.
Again, where is your photographic evidence of hits?

The evidence would indicate that the air is not blue coloured
What evidence?
Yet again, you just claim pure BS with no evidence at all, and pretend that your claim is all you need as evidence.

Even your fake ball Earth images
I don't care about your fakes.
I'll stick to real images.
Images where the issues above can make it hard to see if it is blue or not.

We’d see blue over the whole surface, not just a lining around the edge of ball Earth.
Why don't you draw just what you think we would see?

we know that water looks blue in sunlight
No we don't.
I can take a glass of water and hold it up to the light and it appears clear.

Why not try to be honest for once? Water that is reflecting the sky when the sky appears blue appears blue.

You’re saying it’s clear in a glass and blue in the oceans, thanks for stating the obvious.

Water will look blue most of the time in sunlight, but other colours too, or partly, the same as the sky looks blue most of the time, but other colours as well, and mostly at sunrise and sunset, as we know.

The only single consistent factor is that both the waters and Firmament look blue, while it can appear to be the skies are blue, which is an illusion of depth and distance.

The skies above are clear, that’s why we see blue above us, and assume the skies are  blue, while we know they are clear. Your tiny ‘tiny’ is nonsense, we don’t see any blue below planes, or up to planes, only ABOVE planes, and all the stars, and Sun and Moon. They are ALL seen under the blue, which comes from sunlight hitting the waters within the Firmament.


Look, if you cannot show anything within the blue, partway, or nearly past the blue, or beyond the blue, you have nothing but bs excuses.

Wouldn’t an object seen ABOVE and PAST the ‘blue’, be tinted blue or something that shows they are BEYOND all the blue? Of course they would, if the skies are blue, it wouldn’t vanish to see objects below the blue.

There is, and never will be, ANYTHING seen above the blue, because that is where the Firmament is.

We know and see air is entirely clear through 40000 feet up and down to the surface. Don’t give me cherry picked or edited shots of a blue tinted sky, everyone knows it’s clear, we see it every single day of our lives, or nearly so, don’t spew some bs about a blue tint, or barely visible blue’, that bs doesn’t fly, so drop it.



Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #201 on: November 02, 2024, 11:35:02 PM »
The blue is the waters of the Firmament in sunlight, it cannot be passed through, it is the barrier above Earth.

The evidence proves it in not in the sky. If it did, it would be seen by 40000 altitude, which has the vast majority of air present. You said it was an effect in air, that’s most of it not blue right there. You think it’s all blue in the thinnest air? That doesn’t support your argument at all, magic is what you’ll need now, like usual.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #202 on: November 03, 2024, 12:15:04 AM »
You’re saying it’s clear in a glass and blue in the oceans, thanks for stating the obvious.
No, I'm pointing out the stupidity of your delusional BS.

According to your delusional BS, because the water doesn't appear blue in a glass, it can't possibly be blue.

The skies above are clear, that’s why we see blue above us, and assume the skies are  blue
No. The skies scatter light, which is why they appear blue, and why it appears red when close to the sun.


we don’t see any blue below planes
I already demonstrated that is a lie.
Why repeat the same lie?
Are you really that desperate for everyone to know you are a lying POS?

Look, if you cannot show anything within the blue, partway, or nearly past the blue, or beyond the blue, you have nothing but bs excuses.
And I have.

Meanwhile, you have provided nothing but your pathetic assertions.

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #203 on: November 03, 2024, 01:30:59 AM »
If you think you see blue skies below a plane, look through all the videos and images from planes down towards Earth, and you’ll get a clue, or probably remain clueless. It’s clear, it’s easily proven as clear with countless images and videos. When you find a couple that have a blue tint in them, you hold it up like it’s proof of being blue. Do you know what the weight of evidence means? It means your two pieces of evidence are crushed to pieces with my thousands of pieces of evidence. A cherry picker isn’t going to convince a moron it’s true, even if it convinced you somehow.

Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #204 on: November 03, 2024, 01:40:04 AM »
We cannot usually see above planes when at 30000 feet, only in the cockpit can it be seen. And has been filmed from cockpits, and all the blue is still far higher than the planes are at 30000 feet, while entirely clear below to Earth.

The blue is now so high up there is virtually no air anymore, or very little. How will the air be blue when there’s no air present which COULD look blue?  It just does, right? Say it’s so and it shall become true, evidence be damned!

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #205 on: November 03, 2024, 01:20:14 AM »
If you think you see blue skies below a plane, look through all the videos and images from planes down towards Earth
I have, and I can see a blue tint. Not a strong enough one to block out the ground.

Just like when I view the moon during the day, through the blue skies, it has a blue tint, instead of its white appearance it has at night.

I have also pointed out the challenge of obtaining such pictures due to the ability to adjust white balance.

It’s clear, it’s easily proven as clear with countless images and videos.
Yet you provide none. I wonder why?

But again, the far better evidence is footage like that provided from the Go-Fast rocket, which goes into the blackness of space.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #206 on: November 03, 2024, 03:24:48 PM »
> I have also pointed out the challenge of obtaining such pictures due to the ability to adjust white balance.
Not to mention exposure difficulties at night, getting the fine details of the moon without the human eye seems a bit hard (and the images may need to be merged for full effect)
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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #207 on: November 04, 2024, 07:44:04 AM »
We cannot usually see above planes when at 30000 feet, only in the cockpit can it be seen. And has been filmed from cockpits, and all the blue is still far higher than the planes are at 30000 feet, while entirely clear below to Earth.

The blue is now so high up there is virtually no air anymore, or very little. How will the air be blue when there’s no air present which COULD look blue?  It just does, right? Say it’s so and it shall become true, evidence be damned!




the plane is flying?
so there is air...

AIR-PLANE.

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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #208 on: November 05, 2024, 03:39:49 PM »
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the plane is flying?
so there is air...

AIR-PLANE.

LOL, idk why it's so funny, but it is :D
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Re: Why care if the earth is flat?
« Reply #209 on: November 09, 2024, 01:02:36 AM »

I have, and I can see a blue tint. Not a strong enough one to block out the ground.

Just like when I view the moon during the day, through the blue skies, it has a blue tint, instead of its white appearance it has at night.

I have also pointed out the challenge of obtaining such pictures due to the ability to adjust white balance.

It’s clear, it’s easily proven as clear with countless images and videos.
Yet you provide none. I wonder why?

But again, the far better evidence is footage like that provided from the Go-Fast rocket, which goes into the blackness of space.

The faked parts they put in later, you mean?

Do you know when that video first came out online?

After the clips first came out, it was a big thing, do you know why?

It showed this little rocket zooming straight up in air, and kept flying straight up in air the whole time….

That was a lot faster, from the start, at launch, than any other rocket seen before, that NASA had built, and showed us launch up from Earth.

When that little rocket launched straight up, it went up all the way, not veer off at low altitudes like every NASA rocket had done, which they excused as necessary to veer off because if it went straight up all the way, it wouldn’t be flying fast enough to break free of Earths ‘gravity’!

The other excuse they made up was that it couldn’t orbit around the ball Earth unless it veered off in air and sped way way up by going around Earth in air first!!

Of course, when we first saw the videos of that little rocket, it went up in air very fast right away, much much faster than any other rocket we’d seen before.

It also showed the rocket from ground, going straight up in air, until barely seen. It might have shown a close up view from another camera at first, but not when I first saw the video, I don’t know if it was or not shown, and removed later on.   

That’s the one part of their video which I found very odd, that to film their little rocket, sold for 80-100 thousand dollars, at the time, the first we’ve ever seen of it, on a video clip.

It never showed that part at the end of that video, when first showed online. Nor showed it for years afterwards.

When I first saw that video, it wasn’t shown at all.

It showed that little rocket from the two viewpoints, from the ground, to the rocket, and from the rocket, to the ground, and another view around the rocket!

The most important thing it showed was when the speeding up fast rocket suddenly stopped in a split second, and just spun around in place, which no rocket could possibly do, nor planes or any craft can do. 

That is, rockets and planes can only slow down in a flight, within air, or speed up in flight within air, they cannot stop suddenly in air, going fast in flight, to a sudden stop in air, even if their engines stop suddenly, they can’t stop suddenly in air, or your ‘space’ above the air, which has no air at all, or a made up holding to Earth force, either.

When they first showed their video of that rocket, it showed the rocket flying up from ground very fast, and showed us the ground below spinning fast, the camera was spinning around on the rocket.

That was all we saw for a few minutes, the ground was seen lower and lower down from the rocket, as a spinning view of the ground below it.

Until it stopped going upward suddenly, and the fast spinning view slowed way down, and we could see the ground below not in a fast spin anymore, the rocket had stopped flying upward at that point, but what could ever stop a rocket like that?

But where it had stopped flying upward in air, was where the Firmament would be, if it existed.

Why aren’t those rockets or other rockets like that one, being sold anymore?

If they really are available to buy, we’d have lots of people who have them, and lots of videos showing them too, by now!

They’d want to sell them everywhere, to make money, that’s what the goal of all companies is, not losing money and going out of existence as a company.

Why are we talking about that one, single rocket, from that one, heavily revised video, if you believe these rockets or others similar to it, but better than it, are being sold to the public?

Because there’s no reason for us to think they DONT sell them to us, and you’d be right to think they are selling them!

These rockets proved the Firmament existed, and it took one video of it to prove that it exists.

Any idea why there’s no more people with videos showing their own go pro rockets anywhere at all?

No more sold or built anymore, the first one was the last one ever sold to the public, or among the few, at least.

It was only 50-80 grand, a new car costs as much and some cost more.

Lots of people would buy them, thousands of schools would buy them and demonstrate them in launching them up in air, watched by students on field trips!

That is a genuine rocket, which flies into actual ‘space’, right?

Wow, they’d make a fortune selling that rocket to every school around the world!

Having this rocket for only 50-80 thousand dollars, would make millions in profit, give schools an amazing learning tool, that they boost up in fees.

Why argue over that one video, about one single go pro rocket, what does that tell you about it?

Not hard to figure out, it’s blatantly obvious.