Are There Extra Lands

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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #120 on: February 13, 2024, 11:49:49 PM »
Watch this video if you want to learn more b/c at the mo you don't seem to know a lot.
The fact you need to continually ignore my posts and just insult me shows that I likely do know a lot and you know you can't con me.

Again, stop just linking me to crap.
Try to explain it yourself.

If all you can do is link to FE preachers, you have no case.

If you want me to even consider the video, make sure it address angle to celestial objects, make it sure supports it based upon basic geometry instead of just boldly proclaiming FE magic, and make sure it addresses the south celestial pole.
And once you find a video like that, summarise it here yourself.

If you aren't willing to watch it to summarise the explanation, why should I bother?

Lol'z - And why don't we watch an episode of star trek why we're at it.
Yes, good question.
Why should we bother watching your video rather than star trek?

How about you stop with the videos, and try a basic explanation?

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #121 on: February 14, 2024, 02:16:29 AM »
How about instead of looking at a mythical past debunked by celestial navigation. 

Let’s discuss the possibilities in the future?

The Universe: Life On Another Planet! "The Next Earth?! (S3, E9) | Full Episode


And BTW this video is not available in my country.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2024, 02:21:54 AM »
Watch this video if you want to learn more b/c at the mo you don't seem to know a lot.
The fact you need to continually ignore my posts and just insult me shows that I likely do know a lot and you know you can't con me.


I didn't realize I was ignoring your posts - Sorry.

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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2024, 02:47:30 AM »
I didn't realize I was ignoring your posts - Sorry.
And there you go again. Entirely ignore the content of the post because you can't refute it.

Again, plenty of observations show that Earth is round and there is a south pole.

The question is why you are doing this.
Are you just yet another troll, or do you believe so much you are willing to ignore anything that shows it is wrong.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2024, 07:49:08 AM »
I didn't realize I was ignoring your posts - Sorry.
And there you go again. Entirely ignore the content of the post because you can't refute it.

Again, plenty of observations show that Earth is round and there is a south pole.

The question is why you are doing this.
Are you just yet another troll, or do you believe so much you are willing to ignore anything that shows it is wrong.

Once a flat earther always a flat earther, there is no going back into believing that we live on a spinning ball.
This is God's earth, he created it, read Genesis 1.


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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2024, 10:45:12 AM »
Interesting story here, it's called 'The bonkers story' but they have to call it that else people may start to believe it like I do.

https://journalnews.com.ph/the-bonkers-story-of-the-alien-guest-at-the-pentagon/

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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2024, 12:21:02 PM »
Once a flat earther always a flat earther, there is no going back into believing that we live on a spinning ball.
This is God's earth, he created it, read Genesis 1.
So once indoctrinated into delusional BS, you will cling to it at all costs?
That you will now entirely discard evidence and forms of rational thought which clearly demonstrate Earth is not flat?

You can leave your religion out of this, as it has no bearing on the discussion.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2024, 12:53:23 PM »
Once a flat earther always a flat earther, there is no going back into believing that we live on a spinning ball.
This is God's earth, he created it, read Genesis 1.
So once indoctrinated into delusional BS, you will cling to it at all costs?
That you will now entirely discard evidence and forms of rational thought which clearly demonstrate Earth is not flat?

You can leave your religion out of this, as it has no bearing on the discussion.

I will not believe a word of what the scientists say anymore especially about space, rockets & the moon etc. And after their planned pandemic it makes me wonder how any one can trust scientists anymore.

Your wrong about religion/the Bible as they do play a significant part in flat earth, so don't tell me to leave religion out of the discussion.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2024, 10:51:38 PM »
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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #129 on: February 15, 2024, 02:05:23 AM »
I will not believe a word of what the scientists say
This isn't about what scientist say.
This is about what countless people say, and observations you can make yourself.

This is about you rejecting anything which doesn't match your fantasy.

Your wrong about religion/the Bible as they do play a significant part in flat earth, so don't tell me to leave religion out of the discussion.
Only if you want to admit your belief in the FE is an entirely religious belief, not based upon any evidence or rational thought, but instead is just because your religion says so.

That you are trusting the words of long dead and incredibly ignorant people, that made up these words to control people; rather than your own eyes and countless others?

Is that really what you want to say?

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #130 on: February 15, 2024, 02:22:52 AM »
I will not believe a word of what the scientists say
This isn't about what scientist say.
This is about what countless people say, and observations you can make yourself.

This is about you rejecting anything which doesn't match your fantasy.

Your wrong about religion/the Bible as they do play a significant part in flat earth, so don't tell me to leave religion out of the discussion.
Only if you want to admit your belief in the FE is an entirely religious belief, not based upon any evidence or rational thought, but instead is just because your religion says so.

That you are trusting the words of long dead and incredibly ignorant people, that made up these words to control people; rather than your own eyes and countless others?

Is that really what you want to say?

There are billions who believe in the word of God & I reckon it's about time they knew the truth, the earth is flat with a dome/ firmament above it, where the sun, moon & the stars rotate in it daily.

TRUTH-

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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #131 on: February 15, 2024, 02:48:29 AM »
There are billions who believe in the word of God
And how many of think Earth is flat?
How many of those actually believe everything in the Bible?
How many of those actually practice it?
There are also many more that don't believe in the "word of God".

I reckon it's about time they knew the truth
That the Bible is a work of fiction, created by ignorant, primitive men to control people; that Earth is round and rotating?

Because you are trying to spread fiction, not the truth.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #132 on: February 15, 2024, 03:03:38 AM »


There are billions who believe in the word of God & I reckon it's about time they knew the truth, the earth is flat with a dome/ firmament above it, where the sun, moon & the stars rotate in it daily.



The earth isn’t flat, and it’s proven and demonstrated spherical.

The truth of my creation and creator.

t everything.

If you're not on board with Christianity, by all means be Norse, Greek/Roman, or Egyptian.

Again.

Your god’s creation you box your god into..




I don’t put limits on my creator and creation.



The bible makes provisions to stone women to death for being adulterous and owning slaves.  Would you own slaves or stone a women to death.

The bible also uses statements of figurative speech.  Like, if your eye or hand causes you to sin, cut it off.  The bible also states nobody is without sin.  How many eyes and hands have you cut off?


As for as figurative speech concerning the firmament in the bible.

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It’s especially silly because they insist their particular verses must be literally understood, while also insisting others must be understood figuratively. For example, one verse flat earth proponents often go to is this one from Isaiah:

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

— Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)
They will say that the “circle of the earth” must refer to a flat plane circle. Their claim it cannot refer to a round sphere, even though the same Hebrew word is used for both. They also refuse to acknowledge that Isaiah could have just used a figure of speech to refer to “the whole earth”. Yet the very same Biblical author Isaiah also wrote this verse:

He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.

— Isaiah 11:12 (NKJV)

By their literal logic, this verse must be referring to a rectangle. Yet it is not possible to interpret both of these verses literally because a circle does not have four corners.

However, if we interpret both verses figuratively, there is no conflict at all. When understood figuratively, both verses refer to the entire earth without describing the specific shape of the planet.


Insisting their interpretation of a handful of scripture verses is the only possible way they can be understood makes proponents of flat earth look a little silly.


https://newcreeations.org/flat-earth-theory/

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #133 on: February 15, 2024, 08:47:13 AM »


There are billions who believe in the word of God & I reckon it's about time they knew the truth, the earth is flat with a dome/ firmament above it, where the sun, moon & the stars rotate in it daily.






As for as figurative speech concerning the firmament in the bible.


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It’s especially silly because they insist their particular verses must be literally understood, while also insisting others must be understood figuratively. For example, one verse flat earth proponents often go to is this one from Isaiah:

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

— Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)
They will say that the “circle of the earth” must refer to a flat plane circle. Their claim it cannot refer to a round sphere, even though the same Hebrew word is used for both. They also refuse to acknowledge that Isaiah could have just used a figure of speech to refer to “the whole earth”. Yet the very same Biblical author Isaiah also wrote this verse:

He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.

— Isaiah 11:12 (NKJV)

By their literal logic, this verse must be referring to a rectangle. Yet it is not possible to interpret both of these verses literally because a circle does not have four corners.

However, if we interpret both verses figuratively, there is no conflict at all. When understood figuratively, both verses refer to the entire earth without describing the specific shape of the planet.


Insisting their interpretation of a handful of scripture verses is the only possible way they can be understood makes proponents of flat earth look a little silly.


https://newcreeations.org/flat-earth-theory/
It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

— Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)

Couldn't put it any plainer my self ( pun intended )

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #134 on: February 15, 2024, 11:28:22 AM »

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

— Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)

Then how is this possible?


He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.

— Isaiah 11:12 (NKJV)

A sphere does have the same outline of a circle. 😁

 But if the bible is literal, how does a circle have four corners? 

Is the below false. 

Romans 3:23
New International Version
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

And is this false?

Matthew 5 KJV
29  And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30  And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Asked you a question Apple Scruff.  If the bible is literal, how many body parts have you cut off?  Or you going to hell?
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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #135 on: February 15, 2024, 11:56:56 AM »
— Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)
Couldn't put it any plainer my self ( pun intended )
If your religion contradicts reality, your religion is wrong.

All you are doing with this is showing the Bible is wrong.

But if the bible is literal, how does a circle have four corners?
Or we take the easy option. The Bible is wrong.
This is an example of one of many contradictions.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #136 on: February 15, 2024, 12:04:24 PM »

It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

— Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)

Then how is this possible?


He will set up a banner for the nations,
And will assemble the outcasts of Israel,
And gather together the dispersed of Judah
From the four corners of the earth.

— Isaiah 11:12 (NKJV)

A sphere does have the same outline of a circle. 😁

 But if the bible is literal, how does a circle have four corners? 

Is the below false. 

Romans 3:23
New International Version
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

And is this false?

Matthew 5 KJV
29  And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30  And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Asked you a question Apple Scruff.  If the bible is literal, how many body parts have you cut off?  Or you going to hell?



As for cutting off body parts, none as my right hand & my right eye has not offended me.

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In Aramaic, the language of Jesus, it meant what we would mean when we say “cut it out!”. In other words, STOP IT. If you are doing something that is offensive or harmful, stop it

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #137 on: February 15, 2024, 12:06:58 PM »
— Isaiah 40:22 (NKJV)
Couldn't put it any plainer my self ( pun intended )
If your religion contradicts reality, your religion is wrong.

All you are doing with this is showing the Bible is wrong.

But if the bible is literal, how does a circle have four corners?
Or we take the easy option. The Bible is wrong.
This is an example of one of many contradictions.


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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #138 on: February 15, 2024, 12:09:34 PM »

Do you notice how that isn't flat?

And providing this image doesn't help with your fantasy at all.

Especially concerning Polaris.

We see the northern section might bear some similarity, but beyond the point of inflection, Polaris should appear to rise.

In the southern hemisphere, not only should you be able to clearly see Polaris, you should also easily be able to see the northern hemisphere.

So you are going from a broken, failed model, to an even worse one.

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #139 on: February 15, 2024, 12:10:10 PM »


As for cutting off body parts, none as my right hand & my right eye has not offended me.



Then this is a lie?



In Aramaic, the language of Jesus,

I thought the New Testament was written in Greek and Hebrew?

What word is that?




it meant what we would mean when we say “cut it out!”. In other words, STOP IT. If you are doing something that is offensive or harmful, stop it


You mean the bible isn’t literal?  Like the original Hebrew used for firmament was used in the context of expanse. 
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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #140 on: February 15, 2024, 12:27:59 PM »


As for cutting off body parts, none as my right hand & my right eye has not offended me.





Then this is a lie?



In Aramaic, the language of Jesus,

I thought the New Testament was written in Greek and Hebrew?

What word is that?




it meant what we would mean when we say “cut it out!”. In other words, STOP IT. If you are doing something that is offensive or harmful, stop it


You mean the bible isn’t literal?  Like the original Hebrew used for firmament was used in the context of expanse.

I don't care what you or Black Jack says, the earth is still flat, it can't be anything BUT level & flat.



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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #141 on: February 15, 2024, 01:15:38 PM »
I don't care what you or Black Jack says, the earth is still flat, it can't be anything BUT level & flat.
You don't need to limit it to us.

You clearly don't care what anyone says or what any evidence shows.
You have decided that Earth is flat, so that is what you will believe, regardless of anything to the contrary.

Yet you claim others are delusional.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #142 on: February 15, 2024, 02:06:13 PM »
I don't care what you or Black Jack says, the earth is still flat, it can't be anything BUT level & flat.
You don't need to limit it to us.

You clearly don't care what anyone says or what any evidence shows.
You have decided that Earth is flat, so that is what you will believe, regardless of anything to the contrary.

Yet you claim others are delusional.

Yep - delusional & deceived.

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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #143 on: February 16, 2024, 01:49:44 AM »
Yep - delusional & deceived.
That does describe you quite well.

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DataOverFlow2022

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« Reply #144 on: February 16, 2024, 02:49:31 AM »


I don't care what you or Black Jack says, the earth is still flat, it can't be anything BUT level & flat.

Why a ship disappears bottom up while going over the horizon proves otherwise.

Why south means something proves otherwise.

Considering navigation and celestial observation points to this…



And not this..





The earth is demonstrably spherical with no extra lands to discover…


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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #145 on: February 16, 2024, 09:20:18 AM »


I don't care what you or Black Jack says, the earth is still flat, it can't be anything BUT level & flat.

Why a ship disappears bottom up while going over the horizon proves otherwise.



It's what you and Jack should do  ;D

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bulmabriefs144

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« Reply #146 on: February 16, 2024, 09:23:25 AM »
They need a horse, not a boat.

If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


Here's my Bible, if ya wanna read

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DataOverFlow2022

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« Reply #147 on: February 16, 2024, 09:39:19 AM »
"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." – Mark Twain
https://rayedwards.com/are-ayn-rand-and-christianity-compatible/]

Then why did you come to a website hoping you would be in the majority.

And why are you reduced to using lies? 

Again…

If the earth was flat, from California the sun would have to visibly turn relative north or to the right after passing overhead and going out to sea. 

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bulmabriefs144

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« Reply #148 on: February 16, 2024, 10:13:31 AM »
Again, you have yet to prove why it should turn north. Fiat is not real argument. It needs to do this "because I say so". Why do you say so? Well because...

Yeah no.

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Then why did you come to a website hoping you would be in the majority.

I come to have friends to talk to. On my forum in Discord, I have friends of all sorts. Some are Muslim, some other religions, and no they do not have to all agree with me. Here, however, the majority appears to be flat Earthers, but they have all been bullied into silence by what I would call the actual majority, since it constitutes what many people off the forum believe.
The majority is not this small forum where much of those people have minority opinions. It is the senseless mob from outside the forum that bullies those on the forum to shut up or head to a private section.

Now you. Why go from forums where you are in the majority to antagonize people who dare to disagree with you. They were literally minding their business before you people came.

https://www.brighteon.com/8de17293-3ab4-4246-8fbd-f336ee89287f

This is why you cannot agree with me. Because you are terrified of this world having anything outside it other than emptiness. "God might condemn me, so I would rather not anything outside this Earth watching me." I'm sorry but oblivion is Hell, not fire and brimstone (everything you knew, everything you stand for, everything you are is gone, like a person screaming "I don't wanna die" suddenly cut silent forever). And Hell does not exist.
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If ρ=m/V, then B=ρsurfobj


Here's my Bible, if ya wanna read

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #149 on: February 16, 2024, 11:42:23 AM »


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