Are There Extra Lands

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gnuarm

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #300 on: June 24, 2024, 02:37:36 PM »
  All evidence points to the heliocentric model and there is no physical dome around earth.  Just atmosphere giving way to the expanse of space.

So what separates us from the vacu
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Nothing, other than distance.  The pressure at any given altitude depends on the weight of the air above.  This creates a logarithmic taper to the air pressure with distance away from a planet.  It never truly goes to zero.  Pick a pressure and call that the beginning of "space". 

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JackBlack

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« Reply #301 on: June 24, 2024, 02:41:28 PM »
But they deliberately overlook the fact that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water,…
That isn't a fact.
That is a claim.
One for which there is no more evidence than the claim itself.

More so, you have 2 contradictory claims, with 2 different contradictory creation accounts.

The Bible used poetry and figurative speech throughout its entirety.
Except there is no reason at all to think it is meant to be figurative.
The only people try to claim that is to have their delusional fantasy match reality.
In what world is Genesis 4 and 5 figurative?

This serves no purpose at all other than providing an allegedly histortical family tree.
So what separates us from the vacuum of space ?
You are asking the wrong question.
The question is what is causing air pressure?
We know that air pressure pushes air outwards.
So something needs to be creating that pressure.

And that something is gravity (or whatever delusional BS you want to substitute for it).
Gravity is pulling the air down, compressing the air below.
This naturally creates a pressure gradient.

This pressure gradient is measurable, with the air pressure lower as you get higher.
You can also test it out with water.

It is this pressure gradient which separates the air at sea level from the atmosphere of space.
There is no need for any solid container.


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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #302 on: June 24, 2024, 09:45:21 PM »
The Firmament in all it's glory  8)


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JackBlack

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« Reply #303 on: June 25, 2024, 02:17:05 AM »
The Firmament in all it's glory  8)
You mean the atmosphere and a few fancy phenomenon.
No evidence of a firmament there.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #304 on: June 25, 2024, 07:36:21 AM »
The Firmament in all it's glory  8)
You mean the atmosphere and a few fancy phenomenon
No evidence of a firmament there.

The sprites confirm the firmament.

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gnuarm

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #305 on: June 25, 2024, 09:32:50 AM »
The Firmament in all it's glory  8)
You mean the atmosphere and a few fancy phenomenon
No evidence of a firmament there.

The sprites confirm the firmament.

Sprites don't actually exist.  They are a fantasy, promoted by NOAA.  NASA is not the only government agency lying to us!

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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #306 on: June 25, 2024, 02:22:24 PM »
The sprites confirm the firmament.
How?

Stop with the baseless claims and clearly explain your position.

Tell us just what part of this video, i.e. what we are seeing in it, shows the firmament exists, and how it shows that.

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markjo

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #307 on: June 25, 2024, 06:07:55 PM »
The Firmament in all it's glory  8)


Interesting.  How were the sprites filmed from above the firmament?  At around the 50 second or so mark, the sprites are clearly visible from above.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #308 on: June 27, 2024, 04:50:17 AM »
The Firmament in all it's glory  8)


Interesting.  How were the sprites filmed from above the firmament?  At around the 50 second or so mark, the sprites are clearly visible from above.

Neither, the sprites are filmed hitting the firmament from under neath.

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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #309 on: June 27, 2024, 04:52:53 AM »
Neither, the sprites are filmed hitting the firmament from under neath.
When? At what time?
How do you know they are hitting a firmament?

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #310 on: June 27, 2024, 05:14:23 AM »
Neither, the sprites are filmed hitting the firmament from under neath.
When? At what time?
How do you know they are hitting a firmament?

What else could they be hitting ?

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gnuarm

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #311 on: June 27, 2024, 09:59:58 AM »
Neither, the sprites are filmed hitting the firmament from under neath.
When? At what time?
How do you know they are hitting a firmament?

What else could they be hitting ?

Spoken like a truth seeker!  Sprites are not well understood.  They are a form of lightning.  Their altitude limitation is because they only happen in air, specifically the mesosphere.  But then, I guess that's a globe earth thing, so you won't accept that, right?

Here is some reading you might enjoy. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_(lightning)

And a video with some nice images.



Notice there is no mention of the firmament. 

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #312 on: June 27, 2024, 01:37:47 PM »

What else could they be hitting ?

Are they really hitting anything.

Looks different in this guys video..





Example of plasm, which are what sprites are believed to be, hitting glass.






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markjo

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #313 on: June 27, 2024, 02:18:03 PM »
The Firmament in all it's glory  8)


Interesting.  How were the sprites filmed from above the firmament?  At around the 50 second or so mark, the sprites are clearly visible from above.

Neither, the sprites are filmed hitting the firmament from under neath.
Perhaps, but the video is showing them from above.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #314 on: June 27, 2024, 02:36:30 PM »

What else could they be hitting ?

Are they really hitting anything.

Looks different in this guys video..





Example of plasm, which are what sprites are believed to be, hitting glass.





The first plasma ball was invented by Nikola Tesla in 1894. The design called 'Electric light source' looked like a lamp with a glass bulb and one electrode.

Quote from Tesla;


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A group of researchers headed by Prof Daniel Baker of the University of Colorado’s Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics has discovered a nearly impenetrable barrier some 11,500 km above our planet that blocks so-called ‘killer electrons,’ which can fry satellites and degrade space systems during intense solar storms.

“It’s almost like theses electrons are running into a glass wall in space. Somewhat like the shields created by force fields on Star Trek that were used to repel alien weapons, we are seeing an invisible shield blocking these electrons. It’s an extremely puzzling phenomenon,” said Prof Baker, who is the first author of the paper published in the journal Nature






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JackBlack

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #315 on: June 27, 2024, 03:38:28 PM »
Neither, the sprites are filmed hitting the firmament from under neath.
When? At what time?
How do you know they are hitting a firmament?
What else could they be hitting ?
I notice you still don't give a time.

The first question is are these actually sprites or somethign else?
The second question is are they actually hitting anything?
Then if they are hitting anything, is this just part of the atmosphere? Perhaps a cloud?

We can often see lightning, or electricity sparks, which stop mid air. Is that hitting aything?

e.g. This is a tesla coil:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mbEOLUejKq0

Are those sparks hitting anything?

A group of researchers headed by Prof Daniel Baker of the University of Colorado’s Laboratory for Atmospheric and Space Physics has discovered a nearly impenetrable barrier some 11,500 km above our planet that blocks so-called ‘killer electrons,’ which can fry satellites and degrade space systems during intense solar storms.

“It’s almost like theses electrons are running into a glass wall in space. Somewhat like the shields created by force fields on Star Trek that were used to repel alien weapons, we are seeing an invisible shield blocking these electrons. It’s an extremely puzzling phenomenon,” said Prof Baker, who is the first author of the paper published in the journal Nature
An incredibly dishonest quote mine. And nothing at all to do with your sprites.
So if you accept this, you also accept that the previous footage of yours does not show sprites, and that the fimament would have to be in space, not below it. That would also mean objects could go to space.

And notice that this is nearly inpenetrable to high energy electrons, not normal uncharged matter.
A lump of steel can easily pass through.
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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #316 on: June 27, 2024, 06:04:34 PM »

The first plasma ball was invented by Nikola Tesla in 1894.

Which has what to do with evidence in this video of “sprites”

Are they really hitting anything.

Looks different in this guys video..





Example of plasm, which are what sprites are believed to be, hitting glass.







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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #317 on: June 27, 2024, 06:15:24 PM »
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What else could they be hitting ?

Real sprite




vs your sprite?




From your video.  Space and stars above the “dome”?



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Apple Scruff

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #318 on: June 27, 2024, 11:08:27 PM »

The first plasma ball was invented by Nikola Tesla in 1894.

Which has what to do with evidence in this video of “sprites”

Are they really hitting anything.

Looks different in this guys video..





Example of plasm, which are what sprites are believed to be, hitting glass.





You did mention plasma balls did you not ?

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DataOverFlow2022

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Re: Are There Extra Lands
« Reply #319 on: June 28, 2024, 01:46:36 AM »

You did mention plasma balls did you not ?

Hello.  McFly.

Sprites are a cold plasma from lighting strikes and I showed an example of what happens when plasma hits glass.  Do plasma balls with plasma acting similar to plasma  sprites have plasma hitting a glass “dome”.

Did you not mention dome and sprites?  With sprites supposedly hitting a dome.